Best Mech Tube For Beginner?

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

I want a mech mod that will work with my freakshow mini without any problems as well as being very simply designed, basically just a copper tube with a really good trigger that preferably desnt require a locking ring, but thats not a deal breaker.

I saw a dotmod and really like it, but 150$ is too much without knowing if I like mechs at all.

Thanks,
Dallas

 

[Whiskey]

Have a look in our Hardware section, I think I saw a few for sale in there. welcome to VU

 

[BoomStick]

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10010820/1927900-smpl-style-18650-mechanical-mod

 

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

Ok, so I should have included more information but I was at work and trying to post the thread quickly lol. I have been vaping since 2009 and have a bunch of VV/VW mods, just new to the whole Mech Mod thing.

Thank you @Whiskey, I definitely check the hardware section all of the time for good deals on Mods and Tanks/RDAs, but in this instance I'm really not sure what exactly Im looking for or if its indeed compatible with the hardware I already own. I do really like the idea of the SMPL MMs, but have seen them refered to as "Hybrids" that only few RDA and Tank types are usable on. This is the area I get confused in.
My favorite RDA is the Freakshow mini with a lime green chuff cap that I use on my Cool Fire 4 and MVP Pro at 18-30 watts depending on build. Now I'm not familiar with the equation that is used to determine the voltage per battery amperage and coil resistance including voltage drop and all of that, but I want to know if it will comfortably be able to perform on these devices or not. Also the new Swirlfish V2 RDA I have on the way from VaporDNA.

I know this is a long question and has probably been talked over numerous times but Im not sure what I would search it as.

@BoomStick Thank you very much for the link, but I prefer to buy state side if at all possible, I dont mind paying a little extra to support US based companies.

 

[Mike H.]

Hybrid mods make direct contact from the batterys positive post to the rda or tank.

The issue and danger to this type of mech is being able to properly chose a tank or atty that is compatible.

The positive 510 pin for use on a hybrid MUST stick out a pretty good amount so there is no question that the battery will not touch the negative side of the atty or tank...If it does, its creates a dead short that can cause the battery to vent on you which is not a pleasant experience.

Your standard mech mods use firing pins that are of a smaller diameter and insure they will only touch the positive pin of the atty or tank..This type of tube mech mod can be used with pretty much every tank or atty made today.

On a mech mod, your wattage is determined by the ohms of your coil or coils and ,the amount of voltage present in the battery...An example here is with a fully charged battery which would be around the 4.1 to 4.2v range fully charged will provide you 88 watts of power using a .20 ohm coil and pull 21 amps from your battery...The important part here is using the correct battery to withstand this load safely...In such a case you would need no less than a 30 amp continuous load battery such as a Sony VTC3 or VTC4.

The higher your ohms, the less power you will generate and less amperage would be required from a battery cell.

So keeping with a coil range of say .40 ohms, you can use a variety of 20 amp continuous battery cells and be safe with your 30 watt range...You would draw 44 watts and draw 10.5 amps with a .40 ohm coil.

At your level of 30 watts you only need build a .57 ohm coil to draw 30 watts and a measly 7.4 amps.

Its not just about the coils however...Maintenance and simple common sense play a role in the safety as well.

An accurate ohms meter is a must fir mechanical mod use of any type...so if you dont have one..GET ONE.

Hope some of this helps.

 

[Zamazam]

For a inexpensive and well built mech, look at a Copper Fuhatten. Solid copper, great switch. I'm rocking mine with a Royal Hunter RDA at the moment.

 

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

For a inexpensive and well built mech, look at a Copper Fuhatten. Solid copper, great switch. I'm rocking mine with a Royal Hunter RDA at the moment.

Do you happen to know who stocks the authentic full copper Fuhattan, it looks like its well liked via google search, but I dont see anyone still carrying it.

 

[Mike H.]

Im rockin the all copper Manhattan..(on attys that dont work with hybrids)

 

[gin828]

House of Hybrids has their DXC650 on sale for $100 solid copper switch,510 top cap, and tube. It for sale on their website under: shop parts and accesories.

 

[Johnny_Ek]

check this out
http://www.flawlessvapeshop.com/product/dripper-starter-pack/

if you use coupon code ecc20 you'll get a discount

 

[Zamazam]

Do you happen to know who stocks the authentic full copper Fuhattan, it looks like its well liked via google search, but I dont see anyone still carrying it.

101vape did, but it went out of stock: https://101vape.com/mechanical-mods/397-fuhattan-copper-mechanical-mod.html Signup for the email notification.

 

[MercuryVaper]

Clones do have a place. If you've never used a mech, you may find you don't like them after all. I would suggest a clone to first try. In particular, you could get a very nice clone of the GP PaPs. It's brass, has the best firing button that I have used. It's simple to maintain and you can use any topper you want. Oh, did I mention it's under 13 bucks also. I see they are currently sold out. I'm going to get another encase they decide to discontinue them...
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10007667/1830405-brass-stainless-steel-18650-mechanical-mod

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

Vapordna.com always stocks authentic mods of an inexpensive nature. Most of their Project Subohm edition mods & rdas are well below the $100 mark.
http://www.vapordna.com/Phantom-Mod-by-Wotofo-p/phawot.htm
That's just one that I found doing a quick browse. That's one of my go-to shops when i want something authentic without having to break the bank. It's well worth having a look

 

[BoomStick]

@BoomStick Thank you very much for the link, but I prefer to buy state side if at all possible, I dont mind paying a little extra to support US based companies.

I'm not trying to shop for you, I'm trying to show you a mod that fits your requirements of a simply designed copper tube that doesn't require screwing with a locking ring. That's a description of a copper SMPL. Lots of other places sell them.

 

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

I'm not trying to shop for you, I'm trying to show you a mod that fits your requirements of a simply designed copper tube that doesn't require screwing with a locking ring. That's a description of a copper SMPL. Lots of other places sell them.

My mistake man, I really do like the SMPL because of its design, but I dont have an Atty with a protruding connector pin or I would definitely get one.

Im suprised by how many people helped out so fast, thank all of yall for helping me out with my search for the right mod. This is truly a welcoming environment and a show of how the vaping community helps each other out.

I really like the Fuhattan as well and will be on the look out for one, also the Flawless TugBoat mostly because I like the TugLyfe logos. May break down and just get the DotMod off of the Hardware section, it is truly a beautiful Mod and something I can see keeping for a long while.

Does anyone by chance have any experience with either the TugBoat Mod/Atty combo or the Petri DotMod tube?

 

[smoke free vapor]

Try Boss Mod which is a 26650 superb mechanical mod from Cartel Mods. It is milled from a solid block of naval brass and has stunning engravings on the body. It has two interchangeable top caps, one flat cap which works with 26650 RBAs and a tapered reducer cap for 22mm RBAs.

Specifications:

• 904L SS Top Cap for 30mm Atty
• 904L SS Top Cap for 22mm Atty
• 904L SS Bottom Cap
• 904L SS Button
• 904L SS 26650 Tube

 

[John C]

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10010820/1927900-smpl-style-18650-mechanical-mod

thanks, broomstick -- i was thinking of venturing into the mech world and this looks like a great, cheap way to start. Thats about as literally a tube of metal as you get. lol

 

[BoomStick]

thanks, boomstick -- i was thinking of venturing into the mech world and this looks like a great, cheap way to start. Thats about as literally a tube of metal as you get. lol

The SMPL mod truly is simple. They can be had in stainless, copper, brass or colored. Switches come in brass or copper with a spring or magnets. Just have to find the combination you like. Gotta use atty's with protruding pins though.

Happy hunting OP. I hope you end up with something that works out for you. Variable power boxes are great, but tube mechs are super cool in their own way.

 

[Robert B]

Got one of these on ebay just to try out. Quite impressed

 

[thewanderernick]

Check out the A-mod SMPL tube its tiny and has a direct connection from atty to batty so it hits like a boss too. I think freakshow mini will be fine there

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Please don't get a hybrid mod. I know you're not new to vaping but it can be extremely dangerous

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Go on eBay and get the fuhatten
Just seen a carbon fiber/copper for $22.

 

[thewanderernick]

Is the SMPL mod dangerous then, and if so why

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Because as explained before you need you're 510 pin to protrude significantly. Don't use the subohm tanks on it for sure

 

[CurlyxCracker]

This is a simple clone. Dumbass used a Hercules on.

http://vapingunderground.com/index.php?threads/115430/

 

[thewanderernick]

Yeah it fits pretty perfectly with my mini haze is all, and I have been planning on getting one. I haven't tried any tanks yet really, but the SMPL seems pretty well simple.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Yeah it fits pretty perfectly with my mini haze is all, and I have been planning on getting one. I haven't tried any tanks yet really, but the SMPL seems pretty well simple.

It's a nice mod, I'd hate to read yet another horror story

 

[thewanderernick]

I would hate to achieve internet fame for blowing my face off too

 

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

Lol. I sure dont want to make that mistake.

Ended up finding someone trying to get rid of an SMK Flagship, I like the simplicity and non hybrid top cap, along with being American made.

 

[Robert B]

If he's not new to vaping and knows what he's doing, the smpl is one of the best tube mods out there. I have 8 of them. 6 authentics, and 2 stainless clones.

 

[thewanderernick]

I have hit them they work like a charm for real.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

If he's not new to vaping and knows what he's doing, the smpl is one of the best tube mods out there. I have 8 of them. 6 authentics, and 2 stainless clones.

They are great mods. But title tells all best tube mod for a beginner. So that said I wouldn't recommend a hybrid to a beginner.

 

[havoc1967]

The SMPL is a fantastic device, I have an A-Mod Stainless in my hand right now. However, I would not recommend it to a beginner just because it is selective for what type of RDA to safely use. I would recommend starting out on a mech tube with a conventional 510 connection. There are many great clones currently available. You can also get a Smoktech Natural or Sigelei 13 (both are sort of authentics) for less than $20.

 

[Robert B]

They are great mods. But title tells all best tube mod for a beginner. So that said I wouldn't recommend a hybrid to a beginner.

I wouldn't recommend them to a "beginner" either, but it's pretty obvious he's not a beginner being that he already builds coils on rda's, and says "I want a mech mod that will work with my freakshow mini without any problems as well as being very simply designed, just a copper tube with a really good trigger that preferably doesn't require a locking ring". The smpl, a hybrid style, fits that bill pretty well in my opinion.

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The freakshow mini shows the contact pin to protrude plenty for an smpl

 

[smacksy]

I wouldn't recommend them to a "beginner" either, but it's pretty obvious he's not a beginner being that he already builds coils on rda's, and says "I want a mech mod that will work with my freakshow mini without any problems as well as being very simply designed, just a copper tube with a really good trigger that preferably doesn't require a locking ring". The smpl, a hybrid style, fits that bill pretty well in my opinion.

That said I would also recommend the
Copper XXIX... It's hybrid top cap was no problem at all provided I used a RTA/RDA with a protruding pin...
I got this one when I upgraded from the low powered Provari..Haven't vaped it in awhile since upgrading again to VW box mods... But it still remains one of the hardest hitting single 18650 mechs I've ever had the pleasure to vape...

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[CurlyxCracker]

I wouldn't recommend them to a "beginner" either, but it's pretty obvious he's not a beginner being that he already builds coils on rda's, and says "I want a mech mod that will work with my freakshow mini without any problems as well as being very simply designed, just a copper tube with a really good trigger that preferably doesn't require a locking ring". The smpl, a hybrid style, fits that bill pretty well in my opinion.

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The freakshow mini shows the contact pin to protrude plenty for an smpl

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He his a beginner to mechs though. What about a clone freakshow? There's no guarantee a clone will have the protruding pin. Or that he/she won't try a different atty.
As long as he FULLY understands the danger and can grasp how to avoid it, by all means a smpl is great. Just don't want to read another horror story about someone causing damage to themselves/someone else or property.

 

[BoomStick]

We tell non builders to give it a try if they're interested. We tell them the safety issues they need to consider and to ask questions if they need help. Why should we tell new mech users to avoid hybrid connections? Why not just ensure they understand the safety issues involved? If they can't understand the whole 'protruding pin' thing, maybe they should avoid building and mechs all together. With a protruding pin and an intact battery wrapper my SMPL is as simple and safe as it gets. No top cap adjustments, no battery rattle adjustments (snug the button and done), no lock ring to forget to engage.... I don't tell people to avoid something because I assume they're too stupid to understand two very simple safety checks, but instead recommend something with more parts and a more complicated setup because I'm trying to protect them from themselves. If someone treated me that way I would feel insulted. Give me the information and let my adult self decide for myself. We should provide people with information and personal opinions and experiences, not parental guidance. Just my personal opinion.

 

[firemandan26]

I would highly recommend the Beacon from Beyond Vape. Some are made here in the US, and in China. It's a telescopic tube mod, very easy to use. You don't have to worry about battery rattle, just screw each end on until its fit. They sell it in black, gun metal, and copper. The best part is that its 100% authentic! I bought mine over labor day and used a coupon and got it for $20! I think they retail for $40-$50. It's a great mod to start with IMO. I've had it for a couple days and have to trouble. It comes with a QC card with a serial number so you know its authentic. They also have a few other mods that are great mods for under $100. Check it out!
http://www.beyondvape.com/store/bv-ecigs-mods-c-112_121/beyond-vape-beacon-mod-copper-p-1806.html

 

[redeye93]

Just received my first MM in the mail today. I went to a local shop and checked out all they had to offer. I asked questions and finally decided on a Rig V2. The sales guy was using that with a Kennedy RDA. I tried his and decided that's what I wanted. I knew I wanted a copper one and decided on a matching copper Dark Horse RDA. I brought the RDA in and he did a build for me a little beyond my beginner coil building skills. It hits pretty hard. The first thing he did though was check to make sure the pin was protruding enoughon the RDA. He said I was good there. That's how I've been learning. Youtube and shops around town. A wealth of knowledge out there. Good luck on your quest.

 

[PaulS]

So I'm reading through this thread. First off I see no problems with a hybrid mod as long as youunderstand that you use this with an addy with a pin that protrudes. I started with a SMPL as my first mech mod and still use it. Today if I was starting out I would purchase a Skyladon ( can be used as hybrid or 510 connect) with the bambino RDA. This AUTHENTIC set up made in the US costs just around 50 dollars and is really sweet.

Check it out:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/h.../e35/11243752_601379756668531_339286946_n.jpg

This can be used with an atty or a sub ohm tank -