What's the big deal with temp control mods????

[Vapor_Citi1776]

I was looking into getting a new vape and all I hear is people talking about temp control. What is so good about it? Can you control the temperature of the vape that is released? Like I can I make it cooler or warmer ( which I would never do I don't like hot vape) but I'm just confused about the whole concept. Can someone please try and explain what temp control is and what are the advantages of getting one?

 

[Powerman]

If you limit the temp to where cotton burns, then you can never burn a hit. You can adjust power to coils, which will adjust how much it puts out. But by limiting temp, you can limit the release of power. Much more steady, linear, temp limited delivery. I like it. Just another trick. People still use Mech mods.

 

[BoomStick]

I've never used temp control (temp limiting is actually a more accurate description) and here's why. I only use rebuildable atomizers and I know how to setup and use my gear in such a way that getting a dry/burnt hit is very rare. Also, the primary wire used for temp control is made of nickel. Nickel is known to be horribly toxic to humans. That's not speculation, that's a known fact. Unless I missed something, there have been no studies done regarding the safety of using nickel as coil wire. Due to the facts that I don't have issues with dry/burnt hits and don't trust nickel coils, I don't use temp control and wouldn't personally recommend anyone else use it. I don't usually recommend against it either, I've just avoided the subject until this post. Decide for yourself. I'm not convinced and won't be using it anytime soon. Just my opinions.

 

[fq06]

I think temp control is most beneficial to people that don't like a hot vape (that's me too).

If you dont like it hot, you would run a watt mod at a lower setting and it takes a while to get going.
With TC, the mod fires high power till it gets to temp (fraction of a second) and then levels off to where you want it so it gets going much quicker.

With watts you can have a quick firing coil that gets to temp quick but keeps going past the temp you want.
Or set it low so its not too hot but takes much longer to get that coil going.

 

[Powerman]

Blanket statements don't help. Oxygen is toxic to humans under certain conditions. That's a fact too. But use makes a big difference.

Nickle allergies are skin contact. You don't have to build, plus nickle is the worst to build with. Titanium is much better is all regards. SS is also being used on mods that can use it. TC isn't off the table just because concerns with nickle. And like most concerns, they seem to be over blow. I mean our lungs are a very precious organ. Voluntarily breathing in foreign substances on a habitual level isn't good for them no matter how you slice it.

 

[skeene]

pretty much every new regulated mod comes with temp control. prices are super cheap today so it's not like you're paying extra for tc. it's there if you choose to use it.

 

[fq06]

True skeene, why not get TC, you can use watts of you want but you have options.

 

[BoomStick]

Blanket statements don't help. Oxygen is toxic to humans under certain conditions. That's a fact too. But use makes a big difference.

Nickle allergies are skin contact. You don't have to build, plus nickle is the worst to build with. Titanium is much better is all regards. SS is also being used on mods that can use it. TC isn't off the table just because concerns with nickle. And like most concerns, they seem to be over blow. I mean our lungs are a very precious organ. Voluntarily breathing in foreign substances on a habitual level isn't good for them no matter how you slice it.

Google nickel toxicity. Skin allergies aren't the only issue. The main reason tc is off the table FOR ME is because the benefits don't seem great enough for me to feel I need it. I'm getting great performance using kanthal and constant voltage. I didn't suggest anyone use it or not use it. I said why I choose not to use it at this time. We got along without temp control for quite awhile and a great vaping experience can still be had without using it. I was simply trying to say that it isn't necessary and that there are unanswered questions regarding it's safety when useing the most popular tc wire. When making a decision about any topic, I personally don't want to only hear from people on one side of the subject. I prefer to consider many perspectives. If my post ends up being the only one that doesn't praise and promote temp control, that will just reinforce my feeling that my opinions were worth sharing.

 

[Powerman]

It's all good. The fact nickle has any "issues" is an issue in itself. It might have been an easy first pick for TC, but it is far from ideal for a lot of reasons. Including health concerns. I can't see it sticking around.

I just take things with a grain of salt and context and use matters. That includes glowing reviews from fan boys on the latest greatest new thing.

I got TC because of burnt hits. A much much better tank cured that too. The biggest impact to the quality of my vaping now. But electronic upgrades will continue. If there is a demand, makers will continue adding more and more control of power. Some will use it, some won't. Regulation itself is the big deal. Temp control is just the latest improvement. YMMV.

 

[Adam Paseman]

I totally agree that when using tanks that keep up with yiur desired wattage, TC seems pointless. I have not gotten any dry hits at all with my crown or artic...and came to the realization that i like non nickel wire for taste better and save on battery life not using TC.

 

[DevAuto]

I'm personally a convert and have switched to TC exclusively. One of the main reasons for me to make the switch is the lack of dry hits. I vape with old tanks, primarily Russians (KayFun 3.1 style), because they produce the best flavor I've found so far. If you have ever vaped with this style tank, you will know that the juice channels are TINY, and no matter how well you wick it, you will eventually get dry hits because the juice just doesn't wick fast enough through the tiny channels.

With TC, this is not a problem, AND has the added benefit of not needing to be rebuilt as often. My first TC builds went almost 4 months before I rebuilt them (although, I will admit that was probably at least one month too long, maybe more). I do check them a lot more frequently now, and generally rebuild every month or so whether it needs it or not. Ultimately, the real point is that it may not be for everyone, but as already mentioned, most mods have it built in for the same price as mods that don't, might as well get it and have the option to try it out.

Full disclosure, I do also have one Kanger SubTank Mini, but the stock TC coils absolutely suck because they mute the flavor of my juice, but the RBA deck at least makes it usable without killing the flavor.

 

[Mike H.]

Ive found most of my dry hits, if any now, were from lack of knowledge (with myself) on how to wick properly and over powering the wicking capabilities.

I would prefer good wicking and more power than poor wicking and cutting power so i dont get a dry hit.

I do want to try TC at some point but i doubt it will fully replace the mods that i have working like a champ, without it.

 

[BoomStick]

I'm personally a convert and have switched to TC exclusively. One of the main reasons for me to make the switch is the lack of dry hits. I vape with old tanks, primarily Russians (KayFun 3.1 style), because they produce the best flavor I've found so far. If you have ever vaped with this style tank, you will know that the juice channels are TINY, and no matter how well you wick it, you will eventually get dry hits because the juice just doesn't wick fast enough through the tiny channels.

With TC, this is not a problem, AND has the added benefit of not needing to be rebuilt as often. My first TC builds went almost 4 months before I rebuilt them (although, I will admit that was probably at least one month too long, maybe more). I do check them a lot more frequently now, and generally rebuild every month or so whether it needs it or not. Ultimately, the real point is that it may not be for everyone, but as already mentioned, most mods have it built in for the same price as mods that don't, might as well get it and have the option to try it out.

Full disclosure, I do also have one Kanger SubTank Mini, but the stock TC coils absolutely suck because they mute the flavor of my juice, but the RBA deck at least makes it usable without killing the flavor.

I use my kayfun 3.1 every morning and haven't gotten a dry hit in a long time. It took awhile to learn what it likes and doesn't, but since finding the right build and power level for it and me, I've had no issues at all. It doesn't make clouds, but the flavor really is outstanding.

 

[Vaperjim]

I use Kayfuns too. Had read TC was not so good with a tank. Glad to hear it's possible. Have bought several TC devices, but hadn't tried them out in TC mode yet.


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[DevAuto]

I use my kayfun 3.1 every morning and haven't gotten a dry hit in a long time. It took awhile to learn what it likes and doesn't, but since finding the right build and power level for it and me, I've had no issues at all. It doesn't make clouds, but the flavor really is outstanding.

Yeah, finding the proper build is critical with this style of tank. I've been vaping these for a couple years, and until TC (.15 ohm in a Russian ... LOL) dry hits were rare because I had figured out how to set it up for my needs, but I still got them every once in a while. Since the switch to TC though, I have not had a single one in over 5 months, and I can vape the tank almost bone dry without worry. I'm not a cloud chaser, but I have noticed that my "clouds" with a TC build are more "substantial" with the Russians than it was when I was using Kanthal. They won't win any contests, but that isn't my goal anyway.

 

[DevAuto]

I use Kayfuns too. Had read TC was not so good with a tank. Glad to hear it's possible. Have bought several TC devices, but hadn't tried them out in TC mode yet.


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It is possible, and works well for my needs. I tend to stay in the 380-420 degree range, and I have not noticed any issues with melting insulators or any other issues that could be attributed to overpowering a "non TC" tank, but I can see the potential for it.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I like tc because of the smooth consistency, its a totally different vapes experience than anything else.
Better? Sometimes depending on mood.
Ive used nickel and titanium, I despise them both for different reasons.
Ni200 was a butch to work with , but was a fantastic vape, ti was easy to work with nut tasted like shit...... literally
SS is the best of both and a much better vape than either one. Imho.
I still use my mechs and other devices without tc, its not the end all be all of vaping, but the performance is still different and very enjoyable

 

[Myk]

Don't like nickel, don't use nickel. It really is that simple.
I don't trust nickel, I thought some good points were raised. I'm not afraid of nickel, the bad points are not any more tested than nickel has been tested to be safe.
I primarily use titanium but I don't think a few puffs off nickel is going to do me any worse than 35 years of smoking did.

I love TC. Before TC I couldn't do a lung hit. Now I can. I figure it's because with other methods airflow and liquid flow need to be consistent to keep the temperature. With TC the temperature is consistent even if you have no airflow or liquid flow.

I do still use my non-TC boxes because I like my old gennies and haven't figured out how to get TC to work on one. But I'm primarily TC and cloud chasing style tanks now. Some can do mouth hits some can't, the size of the lung hit can always be adjusted to the situation.

I've seen people saying TC isn't good for newbies. It really is, frustration with dry hits has driven many away. You don't have to be a pro to buy a TC coil and screw it in.
Suggesting TC for a newbie is no different than suggesting a Twist so they can figure out what they want all in one mod. They can sub-ohm, high voltage, low voltage (on some) or TC all with one mod that is cheaper than my RN-4072 kits or eGo-C kits were.
Start with an eGo battery and a Pro-Tank? Why? Because you want them to go through the same crap you did?

 

[DevAuto]

I like tc because of the smooth consistency, its a totally different vapes experience than anything else.
Better? Sometimes depending on mood.
Ive used nickel and titanium, I despise them both for different reasons.
Ni200 was a butch to work with , but was a fantastic vape, ti was easy to work with nut tasted like shit...... literally
SS is the best of both and a much better vape than either one. Imho.
I still use my mechs and other devices without tc, its not the end all be all of vaping, but the performance is still different and very enjoyable

That is a really good point. Consistency is tremendously better with TC ... Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Myk]

I use Kayfuns too. Had read TC was not so good with a tank. Glad to hear it's possible. Have bought several TC devices, but hadn't tried them out in TC mode yet.

Definitely. I actually got TC because I would go from flooded to dry hit with drippers. They were going to be my solution to dripping.
I have 4 TC mods, all with tanks on them.
Actually the TFV4 I just got today is producing flavor with a liquid I was only satisfied with in a dripper before.

 

[DevAuto]

Don't like nickel, don't use nickel. It really is that simple.
I don't trust nickel, I thought some good points were raised. I'm not afraid of nickel, the bad points are not any more tested than nickel has been tested to be safe.
I primarily use titanium but I don't think a few puffs off nickel is going to do me any worse than 35 years of smoking did.

I love TC. Before TC I couldn't do a lung hit. Now I can. I figure it's because with other methods airflow and liquid flow need to be consistent to keep the temperature. With TC the temperature is consistent even if you have no airflow or liquid flow.

I do still use my non-TC boxes because I like my old gennies and haven't figured out how to get TC to work on one. But I'm primarily TC and cloud chasing style tanks now. Some can do mouth hits some can't, the size of the lung hit can always be adjusted to the situation.

I've seen people saying TC isn't good for newbies. It really is, frustration with dry hits has driven many away. You don't have to be a pro to buy a TC coil and screw it in.
Suggesting TC for a newbie is no different than suggesting a Twist so they can figure out what they want all in one mod. They can sub-ohm, high voltage, low voltage (on some) or TC all with one mod that is cheaper than my RN-4072 kits or eGo-C kits were.
Start with an eGo battery and a Pro-Tank? Why? Because you want them to go through the same crap you did?

Yeah, eGo and ProTanks used to be a great starter setup for someone to try vaping, but with all the new, cheap, fully capable mods available, there are much better alternatives. The only real advantage to the eGo setups is the size. I know a couple of folks that just won't do anything larger than an eGo because they like the "feel" of the smaller eGo. Hell, I even know a few folks still using cig-a-likes because they "need" something that feels like a cigarette in their hands.

 

[skeene]

I still bring an ego to work, very stealthy.

 

[DevAuto]

I still bring an ego to work, very stealthy.

If I had to worry about stealth vaping at work, I might actually still use one too ...

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I use my vaporshark at work. Fits in my shirt pocket

 

[fq06]

Start with an eGo battery and a Pro-Tank? Why? Because you want them to go through the same crap you did?

Lol, that's funny. I started with an inferior setup compared to what's available nowadays so I will feel better if you do too

 

[DevAuto]

Lol, that's funny. I started with an inferior setup compared to what's available nowadays so I will feel better if you do too

LOL! Not sure if that is the best reason to recommend it to someone though!

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Lol, that's funny. I started with an inferior setup compared to what's available nowadays so I will feel better if you do too

Jealous of the noobs.... could be a real douchebag and recommend a blu

 

[DevAuto]

Jealous of the noobs.... could be a real douchebag and recommend a blu

Funny, but I'm traveling on business with a co-worker that LOVES her Blu ... I keep trying to "upgrade" her, but she just keeps going back!

 

[fq06]

Oh yeah, forget a protank1, get a cigalike like I got from a smoke shop when I started. Then move to a protank and then after you're good and ready to buy a pack of smokes I'll let you try my TC mod with a nice single coil rayon build in a flavor atty
Noob be like... OMG! Who just put a strawberry shortcake in my mouth? That's vapor????

Noob would still be $1,000+ behind me on money spent though

 

[DevAuto]

Oh yeah, forget a protank1, get a cigalike like I got from a smoke shop when I started. Then move to a protank and then after you're good and ready to buy a pack of smokes I'll let you try my TC mod with a nice single coil build in a flavor atty

Noob would still be $1,000+ behind me on money spent though

Only $1,000+ ??? I guess I REALLY did it wrong! LOL

Noobs have NO idea how good they have it today!

 

[fq06]

Haha, true. I just don't want to put a number on it for my own sanity lol.

Noobs got it sooo good.
Like sub ohm cloud chucking tanks that you dont have to build, just screw a new head in and go.

Omg, the days of rebuilding my Odysseus still give me nightmares

 

[DevAuto]

Haha, true. I just don't want to put a number on it for my own sanity lol.

Noobs got it sooo good.
Like sub ohm cloud chucking tanks that you dont have to build, just screw a new head in and go.

Omg, the days of rebuilding my Odysseus still give me nightmares

You forgot new heads that last for weeks instead of hours or days! That was the biggest reason I got into building my own coils, I couldn't afford to keep buying new coils!

 

[fq06]

True, the 1mm silica used in protank 1 didn't last very long at all.
But wait! Rebuild it yourself with thicker silica or cotton or readyxwick and you're chuckin clouds bro!!!

 

[DevAuto]

True, the 1mm silica used in protank 1 didn't last very long at all.
But wait! Rebuild it yourself with thicker silica or cotton or readyxwick and you're chuckin clouds bro!!!

Oh yeah, I did figure that out ... that was my first foray into "rebuilding" ... then I moved on to other things, like my gennies, or the Russians that I am STILL using (just with Ni200...LOL). The real point was that coils now are lasting 2,3, or even 4 weeks! If they lasted that long when I was buying them, I might never have learned how to build and wick my own stuff.

 

[fq06]

Yeah, true. I'm going on 3 weeks with an arctic Ni coil and all I vape is deserts. Lower cost, much higher performance. Maybe the amout of juice drank by these tanks cuts into the coil savings... but it's worth it.