Looking to buy first box mod.

[Masher59]

Hello everyone glad to find you and be a part of this community now. I'm a complete noob to this type of vaping but I've been using disposables for the past 3 months and not smoking anymore. I need help picking out a mod and have narrowed it down to the HexOhm V2.1, Boxer 133 w/DNA200 TC or the Hotcig DNA200. I'm leaning toward the HO V2.1 for simplicity and warranty being new to the game but I'm still up in the air. I'm wondering what tank and drip tip would be best as well? I want to be able to vape most of the day without changing batteries also. All input is welcomed thanks in advance and once again glad to be here.

 

[Adam Paseman]

Personally, i like the hotcig out of those three-at this point in time id want something with TC capabilities to grow with-and the built in safety aspects if a regulated mod which the hexohm is not. As fir tanks-hard call. Id say crown or tfv4-but thats a big leap in amount of vapor than your used to...believe that will take a bit to get used to. I was a pack pack and a half a day smoker-full flavs not lights-and it took about a day or two if subohm vaping to not cough my ass off-and that was with tanks that produce less than these two tanks.


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[Masher59]

Thanks for the reply. I may need to check again but the Hexohm says that it is regulated but there is also an unregulated version that's cheaper. I'm just worried that the Hotcig is a bit advanced for me. I don't want to fry it because I accidentally changed a setting since none of these are cheap. Also I'm going to need it built since I know nothing of coils besides stainless steel is the hot new thing. After seeing the vape these produce at a store I know what you are saying about the hit you take. I couldn't believe how much vape these can produce.

 

[freemind]

One box that can TC and the other doesn't?

Is temp control something you want?

I just bought an IPV3 LI and like it so far.

I upgraded mine before I even used it. 200 watt box with temp control (100 joules). That's a lot of performance for the paltry 70 bucks I got in it.

My first "big" wattage box was a Sigelei V2 100 watt box. It has been pumping along flawlessly for about a year now.

 

[Masher59]

I would for the reason Adam stated it would give me the ability to grow.

 

[Powerman]

So I went from Vuse, to ego One, to a sub tank nano in two weeks. Immediately to a subtank mini and Cloupor mini. It was never about chucking clouds, and I wasn't trying to go through juice. I wanted nic with the least amount of juice. After about 3-4 months, now I have a Crown and IVP D2. It makes a ton of vapor and I love it.

The point is, you are skipping straight to some good stuff. It's will be a Lot more than you are used to. But it's really nice. There are a few 75w boxes that are really good. The D2, the Sig 75w TC. It's all you need, and again will be more than you are used to. The others you list are all doing real good right now. You won't waste your money, and you are not going to mess anything up.

TC is the fad right now. I like it, but a bit needs to be ironed out. Mainly wire aterials used. You could get a Crown, and a 75w box, and be in heaven. Get used to it, learn a bit more, and get the TC mod you want. I think within the next 6 months, there will be many more options available that are more capable. This industry is moving at a crazy fast speed. You won't spend a lot either.

I went another route, but right now, the X cube 2 offers a lot for little money. You can do SS coils in TC without sinking a bunch of money into it. Wait to learn a little more before investing in a high dollar mod.

Battery life is wildly subjective. I only use single 18650 mods. I am getting a half to a full 10 work day right now. 65w, and about 6-8 ml a day. It all depends on how much power you use and how much you vape. Someone saying they can go all morning or all day doesn't really tell you much.

Sorry for the book. But you are on a good track. I'm a rookie too. There is a bit of a learning curve to regulated mods. Right now there are a lot of good ones that will be a big step up for not much money. Darn near disposable status. But really good. I buy two for spare and charging. Hope that helps.

 

[Masher59]

That's what a friend recommended as well Powerman thanks for your input. He has a Smok M80 XPro Plus with a Haze drip tip and I forgot what tank but he recommended this for me as well. I watched the video by the Aussie that curses a lot and the X cube 2 seems pretty solid and loaded with features for the money.

 

[Powerman]

Well and I focused on your others... The DNA200 is the most complete right now. Others will catch up very soon. I pulled the trigger on one hopefully will have it in a week or so. The D2 was a great upgrade over my Cloupor mini and I like TC. But that Crown is just so damn good with SS coils... I decided to get a mod that can do SS in TC. Right now only a couple can. Yihi just announced a V2 350j chip, but nobody knows when it will get to 3rd party vendors or when the SX mini ML will be out. If you get a DNA 200, you will have plenty of box. But by all means stop shopping for tanks. Get the Crown. You won't regret it. I don't care what my juice or battery use is, I love it. And that comes from a guy that doesn't care about clouds.

 

[DevAuto]

Hello everyone glad to find you and be a part of this community now. I'm a complete noob to this type of vaping but I've been using disposables for the past 3 months and not smoking anymore. I need help picking out a mod and have narrowed it down to the HexOhm V2.1, Boxer 133 w/DNA200 TC or the Hotcig DNA200. I'm leaning toward the HO V2.1 for simplicity and warranty being new to the game but I'm still up in the air. I'm wondering what tank and drip tip would be best as well? I want to be able to vape most of the day without changing batteries also. All input is welcomed thanks in advance and once again glad to be here.

Congrats on not smoking anymore!

Okay, so it looks like you are ready to go "all in", given the mods you are considering. Going from disposables to the DNA 200 class devices is a HUGE jump.

My first recommendation would be to try a smaller device like the IPV D2, eVic-VTC Mini, Sigelei 75w, etc ... there are a LOT of them out there now for a fraction of the cost. You may find that they are completely sufficient for what you want/need. Any one of these devices will be more than sufficient to keep you from smoking. I get a full day out of the D2 and SMY, and most of a day from the VTC, but your mileage may vary since it depends on personal vaping habits. I've done some reviews on some of these, you can read them if you follow the link in my signature.

That said, if you do in fact want to jump in head first, then I would look at the Smok X Cube II, DNA 200 mods or wait for the Yihi SX Mini ML to arrive. They seem to be the top contenders in that market space. If you have a vape shop nearby, maybe you can go check some of these out and see how the feel in your hand. That may also be a deciding factor in many cases. If it isn't comfortable to hold all day, it may not be the right device for you. I don't own any of these devices, so I can't give you more than an opinion based on what I have read and heard about them.

As for tank, the Crown is all the rage right now, followed closely by the TFv4. Either one should suit you, but the TFv4 does tend to eat batteries and juice, depending on which coil you use. I have no personal experience with either of these though (yet), so I can't give you any better insight.

HTH, good luck with your decision!

 

[Joshua Iles]

My suggestions are gonna be a bit different here, but I can only speak to what I've used. My current setup is a simple ijust2 and a kbox mini. For a great simple device the ijust2 is a solid little mechulated as I call it. Its basically a mechanical mod with built in batteries and charging. With .3 ohm coils in the tank that comes with it its a very good vape for me. However right now I'm running .6 ohm herakles coils in the tank so I'm running the tank on my Kbox mini at 40w. For me personally its more than enough vapor, flavor could be better IMHO, and I have some other coils that I'll be trying soon and see if it helps that. The nice thing about a setup like that is its like $30 for the battery and the tank, if anything it makes a great little backup. I also highly recommend the innokin isub tanks, less than $20 and to me the flavor is really good. Granted I'm more on a budget than anything and I havent tried anything else, but I've very much enjoyed the vaping experience I've gotten from the cheap setup I have. So many choices out there, and if u time it right with sales u can get some really good deals on some good gear. See if u cant try a few tanks, that is the most important part. Mods are important as well, but a shotty tank on an dna200 is still gonna be a shotty tank.

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[freemind]

One thing that has not been mentioned yet...

When going from the starter gear you were using, to the new gear you are planning on using.... You'll likely need to drop your nic level. A 24MG juice user won't be using 24MG nic in those big tanks. They produce much more vape, and much more Nic in every toot. You'll get nic sick if you aren't careful.

 

[OneBadWolf]

I know it looks like it belongs to an Austrailian pimp, but have you considered the Smok X Cube2? 160 watts, TC on Ni Ti and SS, and available for less than $70.

 

[smacksy]

Hello everyone glad to find you and be a part of this community now. I'm a complete noob to this type of vaping but I've been using disposables for the past 3 months and not smoking anymore. I need help picking out a mod and have narrowed it down to the HexOhm V2.1, Boxer 133 w/DNA200 TC or the Hotcig DNA200. I'm leaning toward the HO V2.1 for simplicity and warranty being new to the game but I'm still up in the air. I'm wondering what tank and drip tip would be best as well? I want to be able to vape most of the day without changing batteries also. All input is welcomed thanks in advance and once again glad to be here.

Congrats not smoking anymore!
Picking the right set up can be confusing to someone new to vaping..
That said, it's a lot easier to keep it simple using a good VW mod and a tank that uses pre-built coils at first... ...learning about building can come later when you might have a little more experience vaping under your belt..
That said, you should decide if you want a singke or dual batt mod..

I like the compact, single batt 75w IPVD2, seen here...perfect for out and about. About $60 or so but could be cheaper online..
And I like the 100w IPV4, dual batts last a couple days on one charge..its the mod I use mostly at home...around $75, but you'd have to Google it to see who might have it in stock..
I posted this as what has been working great for me, and the Crown is a easy top fill tank that is simply awesome! Good luck and let us know what you end up with..

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[Masher59]

Thanks for all the help everyone and yes it does seem daunting at this point. I'm going to hit a local shop and put a few in my hand and see what feels good. This may be a strange request but I'm a pretty big bowhunter and I sit in my climber sometimes all day. Will I have to stick with disposables for that because they don't make noise or is there a somewhat quiet mod out there?

 

[Powerman]

What noise do you mean?

 

[Masher59]

The click to fire is loud on some of the ones I've heard. It may not seem loud but you have to imagine it's dead quiet and any non natural sound really projects in the woods. I don't want to get the thread off track this will be a secondary device if I can find one. Well Im going to answer my question I can go mechanical.

 

[Masher59]

Thanks for the congrats on not smoking. I'm so glad something has come along to get me off the damn cigs. It pains me to say it but I've been smoking for a little over 20 years and I feel so much better after just these last 3 months of vaping.

 

[Powerman]

Some mods you can choose a click button or not. Custom. Vapor Lips, militia mods. Some just don't have clicky buttons. I think people like the BB style buttons if they like clicky. My D2 clicks, but it isn't audible.

 

[Markw4mms]

Here's another vote for the IPV3Li. It's well built, has all the power you'll ever need, and it's dead silent if you fire it with the touch sensor.

 

[Powerman]

Oh... And if you are making such a big step up, you might not be used to the regular noise with big tanks. Air flow and Vapor production make noise. Not like what you have been doing. You can slow it down and turn it down if you are trying to be super secret quite... Just sayin'.

 

[Masher59]

Thanks for all the help everyone. I just hit two local vape shops and got to hold and mess with a few. They didn't have the DNA200 but I held the X0, Xcube2 and the IPV 3Li. I think just to go ahead and get started I will get the IPV 3Li. Neither of these shops had Crown tanks where's a good place to grab them online and the coils? They both recommended Kanger tanks.

 

[DevAuto]

The 3Li is supposed to be an excellent mod, I think you chose well. As for the Crown, you can try breazy.com and ecig.com ... they both had them competitively priced a while ago, but I haven't looked lately.

 

[Masher59]

Thanks! I think I found it. Do I need the Temp Control Coils?

http://breazy.com/products/uwell-crown-sub-ohm-tank

 

[DevAuto]

Thanks! I think I found it. Do I need the Temp Control Coils?

http://breazy.com/products/uwell-crown-sub-ohm-tank

Only if you want to try using it in temp control mode. Personally, I love temp control, but not everyone feels the same way.

 

[Masher59]

Temp control eats up more battery correct?

 

[DevAuto]

Temp control eats up more battery correct?

So far in my experience, it actually uses less, once the atty reaches temperature, the mod throttles back the power to it, resulting in an apparent power savings overall. Again, that is only my observation, nothing scientific to back it, but my batteries definitely last longer in TC mode than in power mode.

 

[Masher59]

Ok, I will grab the Ni200 coil pack for it. Now if I can find the tank and coil packs in stock somewhere lol.

 

[Masher59]

On to batteries now and a charger. So this holds two 18650 what brand is recommended? I see the Sony is 2100mah and the Efest is 2800mah.

Guess I will get the 6 bay charger.

 

[Markw4mms]

On to batteries now and a charger. So this holds two 18650 what brand is recommended? I see the Sony is 2100mah and the Efest is 2800mah.

Guess I will get the 6 bay charger.

I use 2 pairs of married Sony VTC-4's for mine.

 

[Powerman]

2 of anything should last you a good long while. I have 2 Sony VT5s. There is some controversy about Sony not making those for some time now so they can't be authentic.

The Samsung 25r are very solid go to batteries for many. LG makes good batteries. Now they have the new HG2 with 2900 may and solid 20a output. I'm using them in my D2s and they are better than the VTC5s capacity wise. I have 3500 may batteries for my flashlights, but the high capacity stuff isn't high drain/amp stuff. Get the 25R or LG HG2.

I would expect you will get a full day out of two of them. I get a bit more than a day with 2 D2s.

 

[Masher59]

Those Efest are 35amps is that bad or good? I know they aren't cheap.

 

[Masher59]

Pricing on a lot of this stuff is crazy. One place has coils for 12 bucks for 4 and the next has the same 4 pack for 6 bucks lol. They are usually out of stock at the cheaper place though.

 

[freemind]

If you want a 6 bay charger, it's all good. I have lots of batteries and only have a 4 bay I4 intellicharger. It is enough for me. My wife vapes (single battery mods) and I use dual batt mods.

You'll really want 4 married batteries. When you are charging the discharged batts, you'll likely still want to vape.

I have the "brown turd" LG's, and they are working great in my IPV3 LI. I also have 4 pairs of Samsung 25R's, and they too are good batteries.

 

[freemind]

I kinda have found for myself, the local shops are not too much higher for coils then I can order them. You may want to see if a local shop is carrying them and for how much. It saves a lot of hassle.

 

[freemind]

Those Efest are 35amps is that bad or good? I know they aren't cheap.

Those Efests are not 35 Amp continuous discharge. They are only 20 amp batteries. I would avoid them, as you are just paying for the label. Samsungs, LG's, or MXJO's are the easiest to go with.

 

[Masher59]

I just ordered the Tank and a 4 pack of Ni200 coils from Code3Vapor. What do you mean by married batteries? The same type?

 

[freemind]

You marry batteries by only using them in one particular mod, and use them in a particular order.

 

[Masher59]

So number them 1-6 then only use 1 and 2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6 together and in the same ports in the mod?

 

[Masher59]

Another question this box comes initially at 165w how do you bump it to 200w? Their is an update you download to it im guessing.

 

[Markw4mms]

So number them 1-6 then only use 1 and 2, 3 and 4, 5 and 6 together and in the same ports in the mod?

Yes, number them, but you swap out the arrangement each time you use the batteries. ie 1-2 3-4, 5-6 then 2-1, 4-3, 6-5. Never use the batteries in another mod or swap them around other that stated once you marry them.

 

[kelvin.veeran]

First things first ,how experienced are u and how well do u inderstand ohms law ,the reason for these questions is well to guage whether you should go for a regulated box with power eg;sigelei 150 or the HO unregulated ,i would go for a regulated high wattage device if u want power and the safety of a regulated chip for example a snowolf or sigelei or the ipv3li (upgradable to 200w ,although if you are a seasoned vaper and have been building coils and u have a fair to good understanding of ohms law ,go for the HO ,good luck petsonally im a hex fan

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[Masher59]

Yes, number them, but you swap out the arrangement each time you use the batteries. ie 1-2 3-4, 5-6 then 2-1, 4-3, 6-5. Never use the batteries in another mod or swap them around other that stated once you marry them.

Thanks! Great explanation.

 

[Masher59]

First things first ,how experienced are u and how well do u inderstand ohms law ,the reason for these questions is well to guage whether you should go for a regulated box with power eg;sigelei 150 or the HO unregulated ,i would go for a regulated high wattage device if u want power and the safety of a regulated chip for example a snowolf or sigelei or the ipv3li (upgradable to 200w ,although if you are a seasoned vaper and have been building coils and u have a fair to good understanding of ohms law ,go for the HO ,good luck petsonally im a hex fan

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I'm not seasoned in this arena that's for sure. I purchased the IPV3 Li today with Crown tank and Ni200 coils. Once I have more time under my belt I will see what's new on the scene I may want to try.

 

[freemind]

Another question this box comes initially at 165w how do you bump it to 200w? Their is an update you download to it im guessing.

Yes, you have to download the update and the package of software to do the update from Pioneer4You.

 

[Masher59]

I went back and looked it already has the 200w upgrade done. I got the VR Edition Carbon Fiber version with the silver bezel. Went with the Efest 4 bay charger with LCD screen also. Thanks for all the help everyone yall have been great.

 

[Markw4mms]

I went back and looked it already has the 200w upgrade done. I got the VR Edition Carbon Fiber version. Thanks for all the help everyone yall have been great.

I really like the VR edition, gonna buy one of those next.

 

[Masher59]

With the silver Crown on top should be a nice looking rig also.

 

[Masher59]

I really like the VR edition, gonna buy one of those next.

I didn't know which one I liked more black or silver but since I had already bought the silver crown tank I went with the silver bezel version.

 

[DevAuto]

Enjoy the new rig! I hope it does everything you need it to for a very long time!

 

[freemind]

As Grimm likes to call it, the LIVER edition!