There's a thread floating around in here with cheap brands, some I'd never heard of like godfather. Who knows how it'll be, but for us PO folks that list was a good find, I'll see if I can't link it with tapatalk, its kinda tarded. Haven't been on much cuz my sleep cycle and everything is so screwed up working days, and between the last few days I've endured some chemical exposure to get recertified at work to carry and use items such as pepper spray and cs gas, not that we've ever used cs since I've been there, but it is always a possibility. Needless to say that stuff sucks and burns for quite some time, glad that crap is done for awhile. Although lately I've been exposed to quite a bit of that crap just doing the job, but they have to do it the right way to recertify people. Yay for training. One more day then I'm off for a couple and back to nights, thankfully. I don't like working in the daylight.