I have read about flavor percentages for DIY, but they have been percentages for a one flavor only e-juice. For example, 10% of X flavoring mixed with base of PG/VG/Nic. What I was wondering if there was a way to know (without wasting valuable supplies) how to mix several flavors together. For example 2% of X flavor goes with 5% of another in a mix when they are much higher as a standalone flavor.
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It's kind of a preference really. I usually sample a single flavor at a low % to get an idea of how I like that flavor. Some flavoring brands are more concentrated than others, so you kind of have to learn your flavorings.
A quick way to learn more about some is to cruise through the recipes section and see how different brands are being applied in recipes. Like TFA as an example. Some of their flavors are all over the place in how strong they are. I'll generally start a sample at 3-5% and form an opinion on it. FA is more concentrated. I sometimes start those at 2%. INW is also pretty concentrated, but also all over the place. Some are good at ONE drop, others need a few %.
There's no tried and perfect #, really. You kind of just have to learn your own preference. Seeing how they're used by others is certainly helpful, though.
A quick way to learn more about some is to cruise through the recipes section and see how different brands are being applied in recipes. Like TFA as an example. Some of their flavors are all over the place in how strong they are. I'll generally start a sample at 3-5% and form an opinion on it. FA is more concentrated. I sometimes start those at 2%. INW is also pretty concentrated, but also all over the place. Some are good at ONE drop, others need a few %.
There's no tried and perfect #, really. You kind of just have to learn your own preference. Seeing how they're used by others is certainly helpful, though.
thank you all. Amending my original post, I was wondering how to know how to come up with say 2% of this mixed with 5% of this will be good. I have been trying to make a sweet hazelnut coffee and can't come up with good percentages even after steeping. Straight hazelnut (TFA) is at like 12% and I don't have a good coffee (Simply Organic) percentage, but you don't want to use the straight flavor percentages in mixes as I understand from reading.
As an example of how I started DIY, and still use this method frequently.
Flavor #1
Pick a main flavor like a Fruit.
TFA Blueberry Wild 5% (OR) FE Blackberry 2% (notice the difference in %'s)(some are stronger so beware)
Sometimes Flavor #2 & #3 could be other fruits...
Flavor #2
Decide if you want a Custard, Cheesecake, Yogurt type, Vanilla & Cream, etc.
A. CAP Vanilla Custard v1 1-5% (OR) TFA Vanilla Custard 3-10% (amounts can vary to taste here, strong or mild)
OR
B. CAP NY Cheesecake 1-5% (OR) TFA Cheesecake Graham 2-5% (mostly the same as Custard types)
OR
C. CAP Creamy Yogurt 5% (or) CAP Greek Yogurt (5%) (Greek is more tart than Creamy, other brands work fine too)
OR
D. TFA Vanilla Swirl 3% + TFA/CAP Sweet Cream 1-2% (for a Vanilla Cream type)
E. TFA/CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA French Vanilla Deluxe, Hangsen Cream can work well too.
Flavor #3
TFA Brown Sugar .5% - 3% (add a more sugary baked flavor)
FA Coconut 0.5% (can add a creamy buttery effect to some mixes)
FA Nut Mix, FA Nut Mix, FA Walnut, FW Hazelnut (used in small amounts to add nutty in bakery vapes usually)
TFA 5% AP (used in small amounts for nutty effects also)
TFA/CAP Sweet Cream 1%, any Marshmallow 1-3%, Whipped Cream, FA Meringue, Bavarian Cream 1-3% (sweetness and/or body)
FA Oba Oba, FA Liquid Amber, Cinnamon, FA Cardamom, etc.
Some of the flavors from #3 can be moved down to Flavor # 4, 5, 6, etc.
And some flavors like FW Butter Pecan at 10%, or FW Cinnamon Roll 7%, work great as single flavor vapes.
Many others are fine as single flavors too.
Or even a 2 flavor mix like FA Pomegranate 2.5% + Hangsen Cream 0.5%
Also study the recipes section to get more ideas, experimentation can be fun and rewarding.
Flavor #1
Pick a main flavor like a Fruit.
TFA Blueberry Wild 5% (OR) FE Blackberry 2% (notice the difference in %'s)(some are stronger so beware)
Sometimes Flavor #2 & #3 could be other fruits...
Flavor #2
Decide if you want a Custard, Cheesecake, Yogurt type, Vanilla & Cream, etc.
A. CAP Vanilla Custard v1 1-5% (OR) TFA Vanilla Custard 3-10% (amounts can vary to taste here, strong or mild)
OR
B. CAP NY Cheesecake 1-5% (OR) TFA Cheesecake Graham 2-5% (mostly the same as Custard types)
OR
C. CAP Creamy Yogurt 5% (or) CAP Greek Yogurt (5%) (Greek is more tart than Creamy, other brands work fine too)
OR
D. TFA Vanilla Swirl 3% + TFA/CAP Sweet Cream 1-2% (for a Vanilla Cream type)
E. TFA/CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA French Vanilla Deluxe, Hangsen Cream can work well too.
Flavor #3
TFA Brown Sugar .5% - 3% (add a more sugary baked flavor)
FA Coconut 0.5% (can add a creamy buttery effect to some mixes)
FA Nut Mix, FA Nut Mix, FA Walnut, FW Hazelnut (used in small amounts to add nutty in bakery vapes usually)
TFA 5% AP (used in small amounts for nutty effects also)
TFA/CAP Sweet Cream 1%, any Marshmallow 1-3%, Whipped Cream, FA Meringue, Bavarian Cream 1-3% (sweetness and/or body)
FA Oba Oba, FA Liquid Amber, Cinnamon, FA Cardamom, etc.
Some of the flavors from #3 can be moved down to Flavor # 4, 5, 6, etc.
And some flavors like FW Butter Pecan at 10%, or FW Cinnamon Roll 7%, work great as single flavor vapes.
Many others are fine as single flavors too.
Or even a 2 flavor mix like FA Pomegranate 2.5% + Hangsen Cream 0.5%
Also study the recipes section to get more ideas, experimentation can be fun and rewarding.
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Coffee flavors are usually quite strong and usually require less, .5% - 1% to start.
Like FA Espresso, and FA Tiramisu.
And most Hazelnut flavors are kinda strong too, but FW Hazelnut is a sweeter type.
FA Hazelnut .5-2%
FW Hazelnut 3-7%
Adding some EM, Sweetener, or Liquid Stevia Extract to help sweeten it up some.
And Vanilla/Cream/Marshmallow to smooth it out a bit.
I have even used .5% Hazelnut and be too strong.
Oh yea, it can be for sure depending on the Recipe.
The coffee is probably strong enough to cover it up some tho.
Thank you very much for your replies...I will try out your suggestions.
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Here's an idea. Don't try to do it all by yourself. Find some recipes that sound good to you and use them. You will be surprised how fast you learn just by doing and experiencing how the flavors work together. One day you'll taste a mix and say...."wow, I bet just .5% of "flavor x" would go good here"....BINGO....that's your breakthrough moment 