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It's refreshing to see an article that doesn't read like a poorly researched, haphazardly strung-together compilation of fragmented facts and irrelevant anecdotes. It pretty much said what we've all known for a long time. Just a nice summation of events and the key facts. "A mechanical mod exploded and here is why."

I often wonder how many people out there would be vaping more safely if the risks of using mechanical mods were as well-known as stories of "e-cigarettes" exploding are. It would be nice if all of these articles included the little quip about the dangers of mechs. Might actually inform some viewers, though....

But seriously, how hard is it to explain the circumstances? Apparently not as hard as other reports make it out to be. They always try to point to supposed unknown risks when this sort of thing happens... ...as if these mods are mysteriously exploding, when really, the explanation is as cut-and-dry as can be. Any experienced vaper can tell you exactly what happened and why. The lack of effort and due diligence on the part of reporters these days is dumbfounding. If google can quickly tell me why something happened, but a reporter on the news can't, that's a problem.

Some people make it out to be a big conspiracy and sometimes I think that there is some clear benevolence behind the intentions of vape-related pieces. But in all honesty, I think that a lot of the time, it's a combination of negligence and incompetence - especially when you get down to the local level. Lots of journalists out there suck at their jobs and they do not care.
 

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As ridiculous as it sounds, perhaps shops should require testing before issuing a "permit to carry" a mech - just like guns. Might sift out a few idiots, never know....
 

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As ridiculous as it sounds, perhaps shops should require testing before issuing a "permit to carry" a mech - just like guns. Might sift out a few idiots, never know....
I'm all for this. I was thinking of something similar just the other day. At the very least, a person being sold a mech shouldn't be allowed to leave with it until they've had everything clearly explained to them. The necessary information is easy enough to explain and demonstrate right at the counter.

Pitching mechs to people needs to go. Selling a mech to a newbie is like selling a 16-year-old kid a McLaren for their first car.

If they don't already know what a mech is and how to use one, then they shouldn't be buying one in the first place. I don't know why anybody would ever recommend a mech to someone who doesn't know what they want. They are niche devices for full-time hobbyists and experienced vape enthusiasts. There are plenty of better, cheaper, and safer devices for chucking mad cloudz or what the fuck ever a newbie wants a mech for.

I also think that all mechs should come with comprehensive instruction manuals. We can't expect manufacturers to do that, but B&M's could easily provide their own. Hell, why not distribute all sorts of reference material? Maybe a buying guide to help give new vapers an idea of what they want and what they will have to do to operate it safely? Perhaps if they see the pros/cons for themselves, they'll understand the difference better and be less inclined to buy a device they're not ready for.
 
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Joshua Iles

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Unfortunately the biggest problem we have with this that I see is one we can't control, online vendors. I'll use fast tech as the example here. Buy a clone HYBRID mech mod, $12, clone Atlantis/Arctic/whatever, $15. Batteries with over exaggerated specs, $10 or less for the PR. Uneducated vapor=accident. Even some of the "kits" they sell always come with junk batteries. Not dogging ft, but that's the unfortunate reality of it. Granted shops should educate people instead of just trying to make a sale, some shops do I'm sure. Thankfully pretty much every reviewer especially with mechs discusses battery safety and when reviewing tanks not to use them on hybrids. Unfortunately Mr Hipster I've gotta blow clouds cheaply and without an ohm reader are the ones that end up in the news.
 

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I've always thought shop staff should be trained in how to use every item they sell and be able to explain it to the buyer in detail. What the large majority knows is how to bag it up, take the money, and say "Thanks, have a nice day!" A B&M isn't Walmart, ya know.
But you're right, as much as I hate to say it, online sales should be regulated some way. As I've said before, when Little Johnny takes the gift card that Grandma got him for his birthday and pulls up online vapes, he's gonna see a pop-up box that asks him if he's 18 or older, maybe even ask him to type in his date of birth. And we all know Little Johnny is gonna tell the truth....
 

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I'm all for this. I was thinking of something similar just the other day. At the very least, a person being sold a mech shouldn't be allowed to leave with it until they've had everything clearly explained to them. The necessary information is easy enough to explain and demonstrate right at the counter.

Pitching mechs to people needs to go. Selling a mech to a newbie is like selling a 16-year-old kid a McLaren for their first car.

If they don't already know what a mech is and how to use one, then they shouldn't be buying one in the first place. I don't know why anybody would ever recommend a mech to someone who doesn't know what they want. They are niche devices for full-time hobbyists and experienced vape enthusiasts. There are plenty of better, cheaper, and safer devices for chucking mad cloudz or what the fuck ever a newbie wants a mech for.

I also think that all mechs should come with comprehensive instruction manuals. We can't expect manufacturers to do that, but B&M's could easily provide their own. Hell, why not distribute all sorts of reference material? Maybe a buying guide to help give new vapers an idea of what they want and what they will have to do to operate it safely? Perhaps if they see the pros/cons for themselves, they'll understand the difference better and be less inclined to buy a device they're not ready for.

Make them do a build in front of you, Guess the ohms within 0.1, then chose the right batteries amongst a case of a bunch of "fire" batteries, a VCT5, and a LG mixed in with them.

And ban hybrid top cap adapters.

Fuck your voltage drop, buy a regulated mod and set the voltage to 4.2 and you will never have to worry about voltage drop again.

None of this will ever happen but it was fun to dream of a perfect Vaping world, right?
 

Joshua Iles

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I wish online stores would have a little mech safety blurb or something on the site when you're looking at mechs. And we didn't have battery manufacturers that did this. Works fine in my kbox mini, but I wouldn't trust it in a mech.
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I've always thought shop staff should be trained in how to use every item they sell and be able to explain it to the buyer in detail. What the large majority knows is how to bag it up, take the money, and say "Thanks, have a nice day!" A B&M isn't Walmart, ya know.
But you're right, as much as I hate to say it, online sales should be regulated some way. As I've said before, when Little Johnny takes the gift card that Grandma got him for his birthday and pulls up online vapes, he's gonna see a pop-up box that asks him if he's 18 or older, maybe even ask him to type in his date of birth. And we all know Little Johnny is gonna tell the truth....

My Mom would have opened any strange package that arrived at my house with my name on it long before I made it home from school.
 

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Kinda hard to see but it says 40amp. *bullshit.

40amp *Pulse*
Mech users better hope that button doesn't get stuck or have it fire in their pocket.
 

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My Mom would have opened any strange package that arrived at my house with my name on it long before I made it home from school.
Yeah, but a lot of kids aren't lucky enough to have your Mom or my Mom, for that matter. Some Moms are at work when Little Johnny comes home from school and checks the mail. ;)
Hell, my 51-year-old brother still gets mail at our mother's on occasion, and she opens it! She's of the opinion that if it's in her mailbox she's well within her rights to snoop....lol!
 

Joshua Iles

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50 that's called parenting, something the majority of this generation doesn't do, and that's a story or 5000000000 for another time or place.
 

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