How to prepare for vape regulations

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Now I'll give this list in order from basic sense to extremists.

1. Learn to build your own coils.
2. Learn to make your own juice.
3. Stock pile liters of frozen nicotine. (Not extreme but uncommon)
4. Stock up on rda/rtas. (Slightly extreme)
5. Stock up on mods. (Slightly extreme)
6. Learn to build your own unregulated mod (extreme)

I feel this is in need of editing saying that this is mostly a joke towards those who see the regulations as the end of everything. Building and DIY will save you money though.

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[robot zombie]

Well, if that's the case, I'm still nervous. I can and will vape unflavored again, no-nic even.

There's just something about the idea of taking such measures that doesn't sit right with me. Hardcore hobbyists shouldn't be the only ones to survive, and we, with all of our knowledge and experience, should be speaking the loudest.

We'll get by without our rights, sure, but what about the majority? Isn't that the crux of this whole movement? We're trying to do better by ourselves and spread the love, right? We would not be here today if we did not first have the freedom to pursue vaping as we did in the early days. Every hardcore vaper out there had some people telling them to vape on when they were still on that casual shit, didn't they?

In light of these new regulations, what shall we tell them?

 

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Well, if that's the case, I'm still nervous. I can and will vape unflavored again, no-nic even.

There's just something about the idea of taking such measures that doesn't sit right with me. Hardcore hobbyists shouldn't be the only ones to survive, and we, with all of our knowledge and experience, should be speaking the loudest.

We'll get by without our rights, sure, but what about the majority? Isn't that the crux of this whole movement? We're trying to do better by ourselves and spread the love, right? We would not be here today if we did not first have the freedom to peruse vaping as we did in the early days. Every hardcore vaper out there had some people telling them to vape on when they were still on that casual shit, didn't they?

In light of these new regulations, what shall we tell them?

Personally. I just build and DIY juice. I'm not stocking up on a thing cause I don't see a need to.

You make a good point though. I don't see a need in taking any measures in light of the regulations. They will do what they do. No point in making a move only to find out it was taken for no reason. I think the best strategy is is wait to see.

However building coils and making your own juice are a good thing to know in general. Saves money.


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[robot zombie]

Personally. I just build and DIY juice. I'm not stocking up on a thing cause I don't see a need to.

You make a good point though. I don't see a need in taking any measures in light of the regulations. They will do what they do. No point in making a move only to find out it was taken for no reason. I think the best strategy is is wait to see.

However building coils and making your own juice are a good thing to know in general. Saves money.

Indeed, but what of the new vapers who just aren't there yet? That was more the point I was getting at. If anything, we need to be prepared to continue spreading the word and getting as many people on our side as we can. And that is going to be the hardest thing to do in a worst-case scenario.

 

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Indeed, but what of the new vapers who just aren't there yet? That was more the point I was getting at. If anything, we need to be prepared to continue spreading the word and getting as many people on our side as we can. And that is going to be the hardest thing to do in a worst-case scenario.

In my town most people are on our side. Luckily. However I know plenty of places are the opposite. I think our forums will be our haven of sorts.


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[robot zombie]

In my town most people are on our side. Luckily. However I know plenty of places are the opposite. I think our forums will be our haven of sorts.


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Same here. The internet will continue to be a beacon of growth within the vaping community, but we are going to need to integrate more to a point where we can't be so easily pushed out, locally... ...a place where not so many people are in the dark when it comes to what its really all about. Anything can exist on the internet for those who aready willing to seek it out. The real world is another matter. Now is really not the time to be off in our own little corners, you feel?

 

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Same here. The internet will continue to be a beacon of growth within the vaping community, but we are going to need to integrate more to a point where we can't be so easily pushed out, locally... ...a place where not so many people are in the dark when it comes to what its really all about. Anything can exist on the internet for those who aready willing to seek it out. The real world is another matter. Now is really not the time to be off in our own little corners, you feel?

I do. It's hard to find something on the Internet if you don't know what your looking for. And that's where word of mouth with come into play.


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[pulsevape]

it's funny...back when vaping first started ...making your own mods and pass throughs was pretty common.....then Imeo and and pablo built the GG and the caravela, and mod building took off into a totally different direction...if someone could just come up with a simple way to extract nic that the DIYer could use at home.....the FDA could just go fuck themselves.

 

[Chaotic_Vapes]

it's funny...back when vaping first started ...making your own mods and pass throughs was pretty common.....then Imeo and and pablo built the GG and the caravela, and mod building took off into a totally different direction...if someone could just come up with a simple way to extract nic that the DIYer could use at home.....the FDA could just go fuck themselves.

Interesting.


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[ej1024]

I agree with the OP
RDA?
I have 2 SUCCUBUS rda (authentic) 2 clone velocity
Poker face rda by cigreen
Cube rda by Wotofo
Wismec by jaybo rda on its way
RTA's subohm tanks
Matrix,high voltage,Arctic tanks
Aqua v2 and the silverplay

Juice? I'm good, my buddy owns XANIC BLANC
COILS? I'm good, we will never run out of this wires..
Mods, I have
2 sig 150 OG
WOOD BOX MOD
ELEAF 30
FUCHAI x2
Batteries? Don't worry about it!!
Probably a DNA 200 device??
With that being said..
Juice makers, mod makers, CHINA should worry more about this pending regulations
IMO....


VAPE ON

 

[Time]

I think DIY juice makers might get a surprise. My guess, and it's only a guess from reading the available information, is that although nic and flavors(ingredients) will not be regulated, their sales may be restricted to wholesale and retail juice makers. If ingredients are not restricted, I have the work-a-round so that all juice is not regulated. A vendor could simply sell the ingredients for a 30ml bottle of their popular juice and the customer would simply go home and put them together. No testing, no FDA approval needed. It would make the FDA regulations moot and the customer doesn't need to know anything about the recipe(how many mls of this and that).

The FDA might be so stupid as to miss this simple work-a-round, but I doubt it. And even if they are, as soon as vendors start doing it, the FDA will put a squash on it.

 

[exodus]

it ill be hard to restrict flavorings . seeing as how you can buy them in a grocery store,granted not the wide selection we have available now but they are there,

tobac flavors will be an issue ,thats where extractions will come into play

 

[Time]

True enough. Do you think there may be some public outcry when the unwashed masses start showing up in hospitals with lungs coated in oil because the flavoring they bought was oil based? I think it'll just give unregulated vaping an even dirtier name and calls for tighter regulation.

 

[exodus]

True enough. Do you think there may be some public outcry when the unwashed masses start showing up in hospitals with lungs coated in oil because the flavoring they bought was oil based? I think it'll just give unregulated vaping an even dirtier name and calls for tighter regulation.

true,there are oil based flavorings but the ones i have seen in grocery stores are alcohol based, there are juicers that use those too

hell,naziland does\did have a sub forum for those that vape essential oils :O

 

[pulsevape]

I don't think there is any possible way to regulate flavorings, or vg or pg.....they will go after nicotine, if anything.

 

[VapnCloudz]

I don't know why companies wouldn't just start creating loopholes and more loopholes if this ever happens. I would promote my product as a handheld fogger/fog machine and just put a simple warning label on it say "now now now kiddies, this is only for spooky fog effects for Halloween parties". We need more fucking lawyers in the vape community tbh lol. If there is a will, there is a way.

 

[stevegmu]

I'll keep vaping as if nothing of significance has happened...

 

[spongeylilvaper]

My first proper alien and he's an idiot.

 

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Just thought I'd pop back in here and say I hope I didn't start another huge debate/fight on this forum as it is mostly made in jest of the extremists out there. I have no doubt we will survive, maybe at high taxation/prices, but we will survive.


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[Dutch_Vaper]

Over here (Netherlands, part of EU) they put some regulation up back in February.
- Max 2 ml atomizers (RDA still allowed, but can still buy things like sub tank plus)
- Max 20 mg/ml nicotine (imagine that on legal sub ohm RDA whoooop dizzy from nicotine high)
- Max 10 ml e-juice per bottle (still Ibought 30 ml bottles)
Clearly not set up by someone knowing about vaping.....
Still VG or PG sales: not regulated as it has more purposes as only vaping.
Nicotine is harder to find, but not impossible.
Flavors: food flavours have more purposes so no problem, learn mixing and steeping. (Also good for budget)
If it gets difficult over here: UK, Germany or Belgium are not to far and not regulated (yet)
With open borders one can still buy there.
Just so you know...


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Mods: Smok XCube 2 180 W, Joyetech eVic VT
Atomizers: Uwell Crown, 3 ego ONE Mega, Stillare RDA
Liquids: Vampire Vapes Heisenberg, T-Juices High Voltage, Melon with a bit of strong mint. All mixed/made with 100% VG. SpaceJam Pluto.

 

[drugarth]

we can still buy stuff in germany etc. NOW....but not after 1st of Mai when the TPD hits.....so I did some stocking up on nicotine....actually Im stocked up on everything LOL...my shinyitus takes care off that

 

[Dutch_Vaper]

Drugarth,
You think or you know e-sigarette products fall under TPD?
I ask this because I did not hear about TPD and e-sigarettes over here in NLD.


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[drugarth]

Yes e-cigs and e-liquid will fall under the TPD, the rules we have now in NL (and some more) will be in effect in the entire EU starting 1st of may...(unless the courtcase started by totally wicked stops it, but it doesn't look good).

Most problematic to get will be nicotine, so I suggest you stock up some if you mix your own liquid.

 

[Dutch_Vaper]

The rules here are not yet to restrictive, as to e-liquid max 10 ml, max 24 mg/ml nicotine. So not real problem there,
Nicotine @24 mg mixes down to 6 mg nicely
However I can still obtain 100mg/ml nicotine liquid. (Mixes even better)
I find the biggest problem for e-smoking to be the 2ml atomizer limit ( like if new environment laws where to forbid tanks for automobiles To be less than 5l, it just brings more hassle, but will not limit usage), this severely limits the tanks one can use. On the other hand RDA "galore" as they have no tank. Crooked, crooked, stupid EU regulations. This is clearly brought on by big pharma a and/or tobacco. (They will need to 89 their smaller brands if sold less than 1% total market share.... Booya "in your face" tobacco and big pharma).
Glad I got into vaping now.......