How to test and see if your pg or vg is bad

[Chrispdx]

Wondering to see if anyone had any thoughts. I have been running into issues using flavour art shake and vape recipies with muted flavor. I've done the simple 2 flavor recipies at 6% flavour to 15% with low results. I stopped mixing in the nic for my test batches. I have been using posted recipies.

Now I wonder if my pg or vg is bad that I recieved from ecigexpress. Maybe I got the one out of 1000 that is not good.

I was thinking 98%pg with 2% orange or caramel. And 96%vg 2% distilled water 2percent orange or caramel.

Any suggestions? I don't want to blow up my sub ohm tank (I'm not setup to drip yet and spent all my dough on flavors and supplies)

 

[AmandaD]

Taste a bit on your finger. It's extremely unlikely it's bad. You can pop a bit into your tank and vape to check, but you can really tell by the taste.

If the flavor seems muted, it may be you have to increase the overall percentage of our recipes. For instance, someone may post a recipe at 6% total flavoring, and I may need to increase that to 8%.

 

[Neunerball]

If at all, I would just vape a bit of pure PG, with no flavors added, and see what it tastes like. Same for the VG. However, I highly doubt that you would get bad PG or VG from ECX. Did you shake the flavors well, before mixing with them? What tank are you using?

 

[Chrispdx]

I shook everything. I made last night two 10ml bottles at 60vg40pg one with 4% butterscotch 4%caramel and 2% Vienna cream. The second bottle I doubled it at the same ratio. Both bottles smelled good. Both and after a light heat steep (done to ensure everything was married together). I know Vienna cream will benefit from arrest two days of rest. But for test, I still had limited to no flavor.

As for tank I am using and Atlantis v2 with a 0.5 coil. Right now Vaping a brick and motor custard resulting in high flavor.

 

[Chrispdx]

Taste a bit on your finger. It's extremely unlikely it's bad. You can pop a bit into your tank and vape to check, but you can really tell by the taste.

If the flavor seems muted, it may be you have to increase the overall percentage of our recipes. For instance, someone may post a recipe at 6% total flavoring, and I may need to increase that to 8%.

What should it taste like on the tongue ?

 

[AmandaD]

What should it taste like on the tongue ?

They're both slightly sweet, but VG is sweeter.

Are you saying you made a bottle of FA flavoring at 20%?

 

[Neunerball]

I shook everything. I made last night two 10ml bottles at 60vg40pg one with 4% butterscotch 4%caramel and 2% Vienna cream. The second bottle I doubled it at the same ratio. Both bottles smelled good. Both and after a light heat steep (done to ensure everything was married together). I know Vienna cream will benefit from arrest two days of rest. But for test, I still had limited to no flavor.

As for tank I am using and Atlantis v2 with a 0.5 coil. Right now Vaping a brick and motor custard resulting in high flavor.

I have those flavors in my stack. However, I haven't used those flavors yet. Nonetheless, I think, they might need a lot more steeping, in order to develop their full flavor.

 

[mchaggis79]

The second bottle I can imagine you used way too much flavor which can cause muted flavors and depending upon the flavor vendor even that first bottle could have had too much flavor in it. The only 2 vendors whose flavors I have experience with are FA and TFA and with FA 10% total flavoring is too much.

 

[MrScaryZ]

Taste a bit on your finger. It's extremely unlikely it's bad. You can pop a bit into your tank and vape to check, but you can really tell by the taste.

If the flavor seems muted, it may be you have to increase the overall percentage of our recipes. For instance, someone may post a recipe at 6% total flavoring, and I may need to increase that to 8%.

 

[Heabob]

I shook everything. I made last night two 10ml bottles at 60vg40pg one with 4% butterscotch 4%caramel and 2% Vienna cream. The second bottle I doubled it at the same ratio. Both bottles smelled good. Both and after a light heat steep (done to ensure everything was married together). I know Vienna cream will benefit from arrest two days of rest. But for test, I still had limited to no flavor.

As for tank I am using and Atlantis v2 with a 0.5 coil. Right now Vaping a brick and motor custard resulting in high flavor.

Those 3 FA flavors are a bit bland IMO, but I've gone up to 5-6% with Butterscotch without muting.
But there are better tasting Butterscotch, Caramel, and Cream flavors but most all have the baddies.
I'd try lowering your wattage first, or trying them in a cheap-o PT2 tank.

 

[Chrispdx]

I am still in the retesting stage. After searching lots of sites and googling things like "low flavor from" FA I ran across a site that listed average percent of flavor to vg/pg and it finally clicked.

Although lots of recomendations to hic's recipies say to double the flavors that was what was giving me the issue. Everything destroyed everything at 7 to 15%. Sticking to no more than a total of every flavor together in the bottle to a limit of 5 to 6% max has done the trick. At least so far.

Strawberry contten candy also does not work for me (joy for me still destroys strawberry FA to me)... But bilberry and joy at 2% of each actually gives me blueberry and funnel cake.

Thank you to everyone putting up with me. I guess this post will hopefully benefit another first time diy person down the road.