I was going by Ol'DocPorter's statement. Seems logical. Some may project strength through clouds, rather than physical stature, although there are always exceptions...
Steve was offering a theory, that's all.
Oh... OK lol was just curious. Nothing against you or anyone else. Carry on brother.
Actually I'm introverted and I am a little on the fence about the whole thing. Clouds just for the sake of clouds are not serving a purpose in my mind. Now if you are seeking flavor or a more satisfying nic hit and you get clouds as a side effect of whatever you do to achieve the flavor or nic hit, I can see that. But clouds as a priority? For what exact reason? And then we have cloud comps. Now, I can see the purpose of competing in a cloud comp for fun or to win stuff, but to me competition is barbaric for the most part. I feel everyone is going to do the best or worst they are going to do on their own and how good or bad someone else does is irrelevant to how good or bad you can do. I don't compare myself to other people and I don't care if I measure up to them or not because that's not what I place my self worth on. But yeah, clouds for the sake of clouds are like nah. No purpose and no point. Who gives two shits if you can blow a cloud the size of Texas? I damn sure don't.
I don't have a problem with anyone blowing clouds. I'm not against it. But I'm not all about it either. Just my personal opinion, bro. No offense intended.
Oh no doubt brother, none taken, I was just giving my standpoint... The clouds are what let me know "you're doing it right" lol
Lmao, we'd get along so well.Jillions of years ago during 'da cave man timez, the real tough guys on the block showed their massive power by using mods that ran on car batteries and stuffs.
All the sexiest wimmens we're of course, irresistibly drawn to the cave dudes with the hugeesest clouds.
This is embedded in our DNA. Its on the Internet.
That's why my mod wears a condom.
Hahaha! Next up on ravenvapes?Jillions of years ago during 'da cave man timez, the real tough guys on the block showed their massive power by using mods that ran on car batteries and stuffs.
All the sexiest wimmens we're of course, irresistibly drawn to the cave dudes with the hugeesest clouds.
This is embedded in our DNA. Its on the Internet.
That's why my mod wears a condom.
I do like a nice thick puff of vapor. When I exhale and hardly anything comes out, I know something is not right. I get decent vapor but nothing like what I see some of these guys in cloud comps I've been to. I go to the cloud comps to hang out and yes I do watch and yes there is something entertaining about watching these giant plumes being exhaled. But my little 30w mod won't do what those guys can do without pushing it to its limits which I don't really want to do. And I'm OK with that. I can tell by the flavor and the nic hit if I'm vaping right. A nice thick puff of vapor just happens to be a side effect of that. If I could get the flavor and nic hit without clouds, I'd be just as happy.
Overall, when I smoked I generally didn't care about flavor, only when I blended a batch of tobacco for someone else did I really care about flavor. While I do kind of enjoy the effects of nicotine on the brain, I can live without it. Oh, but clouds...clouds are everything. To feel the cloud inside me, then watch it exit my lips, it's like expanding my soul out there. In ancient times, any nonstylized depictions of gods, titans, dragons, and other archetypal beings were usually shown exhaling at least wisps, if not billowing clouds, of mist or smoke to denote their status as such. The psychological link between exhaled clouds and the divine/magical/imaginal runs very deep in humanity. All that said, I don't even get cloud competitions. Like you, I have an utter disdain for competition in general. It's not the size of the cloud, it's your connection to it.
Very well put, TF.
Nicotine has a positive effect against nearly every mental disorder known, Rotog. Thank you for chiming in.
Cute, Shark.Jillions of years ago during 'da cave man timez, the real tough guys on the block showed their massive power by using mods that ran on car batteries and stuffs.
All the sexiest wimmens we're of course, irresistibly drawn to the cave dudes with the hugeesest clouds.
This is embedded in our DNA. Its on the Internet.
That's why my mod wears a condom.
I don't personally feel any spiritual connection to inhaling and exhaling a puff of vapor. In my mind, that puff of vapor is there to serve a purpose. I find it much easier to focus on things that serve a purpose. For me, vaping serves the purpose of delivering nicotine, which helps control my mood and sometimes helps with my add. Times when I am just wasting time, I find it harder to focus like when I play a video game or watch TV I am always picking up my phone and seeing what's going on in the interwebz. When I have an important task or am engaging in an activity that is performing a function I deem necessary, its much easier for me to focus on those aspects.
Sort of; I really do have 2 Ph. D.s, and my real surname is Porter, but actually it is a reference to a character in the play crimes of the heart.I'm guessing Doc is a euphemism?
So if you don't mind, im curious on the purpose of this exercise. Obviously the information has been freely given for whatever reason. But, what brought about the curiosity?
So, I'm guessing you are leaning toward reductional materialist utilitarian in your personal philosophy? I'm more of an idealistic, individualistic alchemist, myself.
Good.
Just now.When did Bean become the forum's voice of reason?
An intellectual argument, actually. The main thing I'm arguing is that those who begin smoking to satisfy egoic desires, such as acceptance, start smoking late (about 16 on average), while those who start early (average of 12) do so to satisfy deeper psychosexual desires. The reason for connecting vaping styles is to see if there are any correlations between vaping style and seat of motivation.
I guess I was a late smoker. I started when I was 17. Why? That's a good question. I guess for social rebellion. My parents never smoked, but most of my mother's side of the family did. Some of my friends smoked, but I didn't give in to peer pressure really. I was just pissed one day and in my teenage mind it was a good way to get one over on my parents. They were divorced and I was unhappy about it. Of course, in my mind I wouldn't still be smoking when I grew up, so to speak. Boy was I wrong. LOL. Once I started, I got hooked both on the nicotine, and the physical/social habit of it. I finally decided at 46 it was time to kick it for good. I've tried lots of times with and without nicotine replacement, but nothing replaced the habitual part of it. Until I found vaping. I started with an eleaf variable voltage battery, and the non sub ohm little aspire tank. Mouth to lung hits. Then I graduated to a sub ohm tank on an istick. Still not top of the line, but it's a better experience for me. Direct lung hits with the current set up.
That's interesting. I always figured there were underlying issues with those who started smoking before they were old enough to drive a car...I take it most of them are the cloud chasers?
Thank you, Mrs. Moore.
Mrs. : P
There often are, but strangely enough, their effects turn out to be more positive than negative in the long run. Yes, but evidently a certain kind of cloud chaser.
Sorry, corrected.
It's ok. I've often been told my brain is wired like a man's anyway.
You kinda sound like a Vape Freud !!
I guess you're right, but I'm actually more into Jung.
Funny.
Not materialist, but reductional and utilitarian absolutely. Function over form is one of my favorite personal mottos. As far as materialism goes, I don't value any material possession beyond its function. I believe that other things exist besides matter. I have spiritual beliefs. I'm not going to disclose what they are, but I do have them. But when it comes to material things, there is no purpose to form exceeding function. And I don't waste my time with things that are made that way. I do not own a car or possess a drivers license nor do I have any desire to. I have had motorized bicycles in the past, and am currently working on another. I do like to have my bikes look a certain way to emulate styles of motorcycle that I appreciate, but the look is not the primary function and if I had to build one without making it look a certain way I could do that and have no problem with it. I guess what trying to say is that I see no value in any material possession beyond its intended function. Name brand, looks, price tag, size, premium or generic, etc, none of these things are more important than how well something functions.
do you use electric or gas?
I use gas. If electric could have the same range as gas, I'd probably go electric but gas provides a great range that electric just doesn't yet. So right now I have no experience with electric bikes at all. I am expecting about 100 miles out of a tank. The only way to get that kind of range with electric is to carry a lot of spare batteries or hook up a gas generator to extend the range, which defeats the purpose of electric IMO.
Definitely if that's the range you need. That's cool though dude!
Good call, Time!I have to admit, I do love watching the horses work in the cold.
You, sir, are a very developed individual. I also do not own a car; in fact, I own no vehicle at all. I do not own a cell phone, either, nor do I ever watch television. I am about as far as one can get from materialism yet still survive in America. I could be said to be utilitarian as regarding certain objects, but my way of looking at things ignores both form and function; purpose is what really matters to me. If something is created for its form, I admire and appreciate it for its form; likewise, if something is invented for a particular function, I judge its merit on its performance. Form and function are just opposite poles of the same magnet called purpose. I see only the magnet. All that really matters to me is what motivation caused it to be. I do realize that things just are (in sort of a tao sense), but intent means everything to me, and supplies me with the criteria with which to evaluate any given thing.
Thanks, bean.
I hear ya!
