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Really confused about which coil for my mech

joeyboy

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I have an 18650 tube mod. I have done 0.7 24g coils. I have 26g and 24g kanthal. Is it better to use a single coil around 0.5 or dual coils around the same or lower?

I am also considering twisted 26g since that is the lowest I have. Would that be a better option?

I love the flavor from my 0.7 on regulated but realize the mech will not put out enough power.
 

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Are you familiar with tube mods or are you new to them?
 

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I have an 18650 tube mod. I have done 0.7 24g coils. I have 26g and 24g kanthal. Is it better to use a single coil around 0.5 or dual coils around the same or lower?

I am also considering twisted 26g since that is the lowest I have. Would that be a better option?

I love the flavor from my 0.7 on regulated but realize the mech will not put out enough power.
if you want more power build your coils lower....it sounds that you are new to building and vaping and you should inform yourself on the saftey of building really low sub-ohms on a mech mod, and the restrictions of battery saftey..before you start looking for "power"
 

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I understand that but are duals normally used in tube mods? I searched and can't find too much specific. Been using singles.
learn battery saftey first....OK....yeah the standard dripper nowdays is for two or more coils ...it gives bigger clouds...
 

joeyboy

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@pulsevape I appreciate your concern but I am not new to vaping and understand all that. I was simply asking the best coil type not a lesson in battery safety and what is the best coil jig. Way past that crap. Don't judge a book.
 

joeyboy

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Your an idiot. I know the difference. This was mech specific. Did I post on ECF by mistake? I thought that's where the vaping asses lived.
 

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Your an idiot. I know the difference. This was mech specific. Did I post on ECF by mistake? I thought that's where the vaping asses lived.
fuck you you lttle newbie asswipe go ahead and "experiment" wow a whole year.
 

joeyboy

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fuck you you lttle newbie asswipe go ahead and "experiment" wow a whole year.
Please pulsevape can I have some if your coveted knowledge. I now realize you are the VU GOD and you, only you, should be consulted....only after thoroughly studying battery safety, of course.
 

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Please pulsevape can I have some if your coveted knowledge. I now realize you are the VU GOD and you, only you, should be consulted....only after thoroughly studying battery safety, of course.
didn't I already tell you to fuck off.
 

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Please pulsevape can I have some if your coveted knowledge. I now realize you are the VU GOD and you, only you, should be consulted....only after thoroughly studying battery safety, of course.
Look... In all fairness, your questions DO come off as a noob.

Most everyone using a mech runs dual coils, but the ones generally running a single coil do so for battery life.

You come off asking about "better". It's all subjective.

What are you trying to accomplish with the coils? More vapor/clouds/flavor? Dual coils then.
 

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Duals are generally going to perform better. Let's not get into solipsism over the true definition of "better." The difference in performance is easy to understand without splitting hairs.

A dual coil gives you double the power and surface area of a single. If we are to assume that flavor, vapor production, and juice consumption are the main parameters for gauging performance, then adding a second coil of the same mass/resistance to a build is going to improve performance drastically. You are vaporizing twice as much juice at the same rate. Personal preference has nothing to do with the fact that it is serving its function more effectively in an objectively-quantifiable sense. I'm talking about a measurable difference in the quantity of juice being vaporized, which is hard to argue does not directly translate to an increase in flavor.

What I think you're missing here is that you need to add a proportionate amount of power to the increase in mass. With a mech, the only way to do this is to build your duals at a lower resistance than you would a single.

A .5 24g single may heat up fine, but when you're distributing the current across two paths, you need much more of it to attain the same heating properties. The individual coils in a .5 dual setup would have a resistance of 1 ohm each and thus pull the current of a 1 ohm coil, not that of the combined .5. Not only is either coil alone double the size of the .5 single, but they each pull half of the power.

So whereas you have 8.4 amps going to a .5 single, you only have 4.2 amps going into either coil in a .5 dual. They pull a combined 8.4 amps. The same wattage that powers one coil cannot adequately power something with double the mass. A .5 single generates 35-odd watts. A .5 dual also generates 35-odd watts, but each coil is actually only generating 17.5 watts.

If you want more flavor than a single .5 24g, then you should do a dual .22-.25 24g. Try a dual 24g, 6-wrap, 2.5mm build and see for yourself the difference that it makes.

You can even get something with comparable flavor, but more oomf at .2, which is 5 wraps instead of 6.

The same would apply for a dual 26g, but you'd want to keep it in the range of .3-.35. Since the wire is thinner, it not only pulls less power for each unit of mass, but requires less power to heat up. Mass-wise, it will be roughly the same as the dual 24g I just mentioned. All that will change is the ramp-up and overall temperature. Flavor would be similar, but the vape itself will be cooler. It heats up faster, but pulls less power to do so and retains less heat.

Twisted 26 is going to kill both of those in flavor. It has more mass than 24g and twisting wire gives it unique wicking characteristics which further improve flavor. A dual .2-.26 would be lovely on your tube mod. You could also do a dual parallel 26 at .2 for a smoother, but no less flavorful vape.

Hopefully that helps you grasp the bigger picture behind duals. I noticed you've asked about them before, so I went into a bit more detail than I would have otherwise.
 
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joeyboy

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@robot zombie Thank you. I do use duals on my aoleous and love them. They are easier on a regulated and I understand about splitting the power. Unsure if I want to be in that low range even though I use the recommended 30 amp batteries. Thanks for the detail. Gives me something to consider. I may just stay with singles as I have enjoyed the flavor from those on my fuhatten. Got another I wanted to try something different. Thanks again.
 

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Lol i think pulsevape is a xxxxxxxxx.
Dual coils kick ass in mechs, i wouldnt go crazy thick because ramp up kinda sucks... but something like dual parallel 26g or 24g kills on mechs.

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W/e crack fiend

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If you enjoy single coils and don't want to build a parallel, try a simple 22 gauge build at 0.3—0.4 ohms. You may be pleasantly surprised. And, yeah I am using mechs.
 

joeyboy

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Thanks, been using single 24g. A little high at 0.7 but still nice. I do cool vapes anyway. May get some 22g. I know 24g was a pleasant surprise l.
 

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A 22 gauge macro single anywhere between 0.4-0.5 is only slightly warm. I hate hot vapes also. Way denser vape than a single 24 gauge. Again, I am talking about using a mech with a small Freakshow Mini rda. Previously I had a parallel 26 gauge coil build in it for a long time. I briefly tried dual 26 and 24 builds also but I like this build more than any of those in this particular rda. I do run duals in my other drippers and tanks but I seem to always go back to my FS Mini at least once a day.
 
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mkhilario

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Where can I find 26 gauge ribbon? None at kidney puncher.
 

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