Help Im a noob!

[Kim66]

I have purchased a GT-Sub-Ohm kit from ecigator. I ordered a Tobacco flavored juice from them as well at 18mg.nicotine 100%VG. Did not realize that was not compatible with a tank type vaporizer. It tasted like inhaling chlorine gas on the western front. Thought Id give an 18mg. 70/30 Vanilla caramel from Vaperfi a shot and its not much better. What the heck am I doing wrong. It is just too harsh. I would like to be able to do large mouth to lung inhales as I started smoking again after 4 years, about 1/2 pack Camel filters a day. So I thought 18mg would be a good start. Id like to eventually dilute the 2 juices I have so they dont go to waste, which Im researching now. But Id just like to buy something that I can be comfortable with and enjoy so I can replace the cigarettes. Should I go down on the nic levels so I can take bigger hits and feel more satisfied? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[ChrisL]

Hi Kim, welcome to VU. Not familiar with the device/tank. Could you give us some more info? Im guessing the nic level is too high for the ohm of the coil, but need more info.

 

[Kim66]

Hi Kim, welcome to VU. Not familiar with the device/tank. Could you us some more info? Im guessing the nic level is too high for the ohm of the coil, but need more info.

Hi sure. This is the exact kit and setup I have. http://www.ecigatorusa.com/gtp-sub-ohm-kit I hope its ok to post links. Thank you for replying :} Also got a narrower, wood drip tip thinking the wide metal one that came on the unit was making me do lung inhales, it did help but minimally.

 

[Lost]

Woah. I think if I vaped 18 in that, I'd start having seizures.

It would be helpful to know what wattage you're at. I'm assuming you do indeed have the .5 ohm coil in there.

Yes, keep the juices and dilute. Regarding the 100% VG juice, that's probably a bit thick. Would be interested to see what others have to say about that.

 

[Kim66]

Woah. I think if I vaped 18 in that, I'd start having seizures.

It would be helpful to know what wattage you're at. I'm assuming you do indeed have the .5 ohm coil in there.

Yes, keep the juices and dilute. Regarding the 100% VG juice, that's probably a bit thick. Would be interested to see what others have to say about that.

Yes 0.5 they give you 3 coils so if thats what comes with it thats what Im using. I followed their nic guide said 18 was about 1/2 to a pack of kings so. What level nic would you recommend? Im looking at some now that offer 60/40 30/70 pg vg respectively. Im using 70/30 vaporfi now and its very harsh. Thanks for your input.

 

[Neunerball]

I used to smoke humpback Turkish gold 1.5-2 packs a day. I was doing fine with 12 mg/ml.

 

[Lost]

[Big edit: I royally effed this up the first time around]

Guaranteed my wife would put 12 in there. She takes smaller drags and does mouth-to-lung.

Me... I would start with 12, assuming I'd likely have to drop it down a bit. I've noticed that I can handle 12 in some of her setups that have attys similar to what you have. (I can only direct-lung on one of her setups. Not enough air flow in the others.)

Remember, you're not just playing with juice strength... also watts. Might take you a little while to find your Happy Place.

 

[Kim66]

I used to smoke humpback Turkish gold 1.5-2 packs a day. I was doing fine with 12 mg/ml.

OK Ill give it a shot. Great club btw, great support!

 

[Kim66]

Guaranteed my wife would put 12 in there. She takes smaller drags and doesn't mouth-to-lung.

Me... I would start with 12, assuming I'd likely have to drop it down a bit. I've noticed that I can handle 12 in some of her setups that have attys similar to what you have. [Edit: I can only mouth-to-lung on one of her setups. Not enough air flow.]

Remember, you're not just playing with juice strength... also watts. Might take you a little while to find your Happy Place.

This one is 33watts not adjustable. Ill give 12 a shot 70/30. Says thats recomended for sub ohm units Im gonna grab some ITC juice and dilute the ones I have. Damn theyre a lot less expensive than Vaporfi's juice it seems. Thank you guys for your help. BTW is there supposed to be like a sizzle type sound when you deploy the button to vape?

 

[Neunerball]

BTW is there supposed to be like a sizzle type sound when you deploy the button to vape?

Yes, not a problem.

 

[UncleRJ]

Me, I always recommend starting out with a 50/50 blend and then adjusting as you go.

 

[PuffPuffPass]

I took a look at the device, and thought it was nice looking. Then read your comments, and had a brain seizure.

The majority recommend 6mg or less for subohm. Although some of us have vaped higher You're really stuck with the taste, as is. You have no way to adjust the wattage it seems. So you'll need to taste test several flavors, to see which can be vaped at that wattage and still taste okay. The inability to adjust your wattage, is really going to make your vaping experience lackluster in my opinion.

And as far as a Nic guide? Toss it. You'll vape what you vape. I do recommend dropping the Nic though.

 

[Kim66]

Me, I always recommend starting out with a 50/50 blend and then adjusting as you go.

They only seem to offer 60/40 or 30/70. ITC that is.

 

[Kim66]

I took a look at the device, and thought it was nice looking. Then read your comments, and had a brain seizure.

The majority recommend 6mg or less for subohm. Although some of us have vaped higher You're really stuck with the taste, as is. You have no way to adjust the wattage it seems. So you'll need to taste test several flavors, to see which can be vaped at that wattage and still taste okay. The inability to adjust your wattage, is really going to make your vaping experience lackluster in my opinion.

And as far as a Nic guide? Toss it. You'll vape what you vape. I do recommend dropping the Nic though.

So you think I should go 6 rather than 12?

 

[PuffPuffPass]

So you think I should go 6 rather than 12?

If you plan to hit on it all day, most definitely. If you're just doing a few hits to start your day, then a few at lunch, and a few when you get home. You'll probably be okay. Just look for the signs of Nic OD, headache and nausea. It won't kill you, but it can make you sick and give you some really bad headaches.

I'm a former 3 pack a day smoker, currently at 2mg using sub ohm coils (16-24 watts). I'm also a chain vaper. If I tried to go back to 12mg+, I would get monster headaches now. Even though I started vaping at 30mg with much lower wattage, and higher ohms than you're currently utilizing.

I went sub ohm at 18mg, stayed there for awhile, then quickly started reducing my Nic. Sub ohm is a much more efficient delivery method of Nicotine, so you'll need LESS mg to replace your cigarette fix.

 

[Lost]

So you think I should go 6 rather than 12?

Playing off @PuffPuffPass 's comment, I used to drip with 4mg at .5 ohm. Now I'm around... eh... .35 ohm. 4 mg's a little high. But remember, that's dripping with two stupid-gigantic coils. If you're using the attys I think you're using, they're not as efficient, even at similar ohms.

So you have 12. Buy some 6 and combine the two to make 9mg/ml. Then get 6 for it's own. If that's too low, keep it around for mixing later.

Now playing off @UncleRJ 's comment... I will be taking his advice and trying 50/50. Because embarrassingly, I've never tried it. Don't even know how that's possible, since I DIY. PG = more throat hit. VG more vapor and a little thicker. The thing we're noticing up here right now is the cold weather... the 70/30 juice in our tanks seems a little thicker. Can't imagine 100% VG.

 

[ChrisL]

Just watched Chris's review and this seems like a nice starter sub ohm device. If your going to mouth to lung hit this, 12 mg nic should be okay. If your going to start direct lung hitting the tank, might consider bringing down the nic level to 6 or even 3 mg nic. Those coils should be able to handle 70/30 blends, but nothing thicker (VG).

 

[Bucky205]

I have purchased a GT-Sub-Ohm kit from ecigator. I ordered a Tobacco flavored juice from them as well at 18mg.nicotine 100%VG. Did not realize that was not compatible with a tank type vaporizer. It tasted like inhaling chlorine gas on the western front. Thought Id give an 18mg. 70/30 Vanilla caramel from Vaperfi a shot and its not much better. What the heck am I doing wrong. It is just too harsh. I would like to be able to do large mouth to lung inhales as I started smoking again after 4 years, about 1/2 pack Camel filters a day. So I thought 18mg would be a good start. Id like to eventually dilute the 2 juices I have so they dont go to waste, which Im researching now. But Id just like to buy something that I can be comfortable with and enjoy so I can replace the cigarettes. Should I go down on the nic levels so I can take bigger hits and feel more satisfied? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

18mg is still pretty stout, depending on your watts. I smoked for 30 years, and 12mg still feels strong at anything over 10 watts. Flavor selection helps a lot in quitting, A lot of flavors taste really good for a few hits, but they grow old fast. Find something you will enjoy all day. Try something along the lines of Unicorn milk at 6 mg and 17 watts, even your Vanilla Caramel sounds good. I just think you may have your NIC/WATTS high. You could drop down to like 10 watts on your 18mg vanilla, caramel and see what it taste like. Bring your watts on up, if you want a little more vape.

100% VG is unusual, most flavoring is PG based. PG also carries flavor better than VG. 80/20 is about as thick you ever want to attempt on most tanks. 70/30 is also a good ratio for tanks. You can dilute what you have then add a little flavor. For example if you have 20ml of 18mg strawberry, add 20 ml of VG, and a little banana flavoring. You now have 40 ml of 9mg banana/strawberry. You can split and re-flavor all day long. You can pick up a bottle of VG at Walmart for under $4.

 

[BigNasty]

Older 1.0 ohm and above tanks from around 2012 to 2014, and a 2-3 pod smoker... sure I see 18mg being needed.
Current crop of devices and sub ohm.. with just how well they preform and how low resistance they are.. I see more of 6-9mg

 

[Kim66]

Man I am so glad I joined this forum. Thank you all guys for your great advice.

 

[Kim66]

18mg is still pretty stout, depending on your watts. I smoked for 30 years, and 12mg still feels strong at anything over 10 watts. Flavor selection helps a lot in quitting, A lot of flavors taste really good for a few hits, but they grow old fast. Find something you will enjoy all day. Try something along the lines of Unicorn milk at 6 mg and 17 watts, even your Vanilla Caramel sounds good. I just think you may have your NIC/WATTS high. You could drop down to like 10 watts on your 18mg vanilla, caramel and see what it taste like. Bring your watts on up, if you want a little more vape.

100% VG is unusual, most flavoring is PG based. PG also carries flavor better than VG. 80/20 is about as thick you ever want to attempt on most tanks. 70/30 is also a good ratio for tanks. You can dilute what you have then add a little flavor. For example if you have 20ml of 18mg strawberry, add 20 ml of VG, and a little banana flavoring. You now have 40 ml of 9mg banana/strawberry. You can split and re-flavor all day long. You can pick up a bottle of VG at Walmart for under $4.

Can you control voltage on this unit? I dont think you can so Ill have to just play around with the liguids and see
I dont think you can control voltage on this unit so I guess Ill just have to play with the liquids and see what works. I did just order 2 from ITC both 30/70 6mg nicotine. One a tobacco blend and one a Banana wafer type flavor. So Ill report back upon receipt and ignition. Let you guys know how it tastes.

 

[Bucky205]

Can you control voltage on this unit? I dont think you can so Ill have to just play around with the liguids and see
I dont think you can control voltage on this unit so I guess Ill just have to play with the liquids and see what works. I did just order 2 from ITC both 30/70 6mg nicotine. One a tobacco blend and one a Banana wafer type flavor. So Ill report back upon receipt and ignition. Let you guys know how it tastes.

I thought you could set the watts on that device, I may have it confused with another device. If you can't adjust your watts, your stuck with lowering your NIC, or changing flavors. You may also be able to adjust the airflow on your device. You can try it, and see if it helps.

 

[VAPEROXX]

With a .5 ohm coil and 33 watts, 3-6 mg nic will be awesome! You will find the flavors better at 3 mg, and very satisfying if you vape all day.

 

[Kim66]

With a .5 ohm coil and 33 watts, 3-6 mg nic will be awesome! You will find the flavors better at 3 mg, and very satisfying if you vape all day.

Thats awesome to hear. I hope your right bro!

 

[VAPEROXX]

I was a 1-2 pack a day smoker for 30 years and I sub ohm 3 mg all day with no cravings at all for analogs...ever...

 

[Model_A_Ford]

It may be that that e-liquid is just too stout for that device, or it could just be a nasty flavor. I keep reading that good tobacco flavors are few and far between. I'm a new vaper coming in from decades of tobacco use, so I figured I'd want a decent nic level and bought a bunch of 12mg and I've made myself a bit sick vaping too much, 6mg is much better for how much I'm vaping, but probably depends on how much you're using.

 

[Kim66]

It may be that that e-liquid is just too stout for that device, or it could just be a nasty flavor. I keep reading that good tobacco flavors are few and far between. I'm a new vaper coming in from decades of tobacco use, so I figured I'd want a decent nic level and bought a bunch of 12mg and I've made myself a bit sick vaping too much, 6mg is much better for how much I'm vaping, but probably depends on how much you're using.

Cant even manage a real inhale so hopefully the 6mg will be better.

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[Kim66]

A couple more questions 1)can I just dilute the 100%vg 18 mg with plain pg? If so Where's the best place to get it? 2)what should I dilute my 70 pg 30 vg with? I assume plain vg. 3) on mouth to lung how should I set the vents open or closed? Thanks for all the great tips.

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[Lost]

1a) Yes, but your flavor will be muted.
1b) Essential Depot's PG on Amazon, if you want a good deal on a quart. USP Kosher.
2a) VG, but your flavor will be muted.
2b) Essential Depot's VG on Amazon, if you want a good deal on a quart. USP Kosher.
3) Play around; it's personal preference and dependent on unit. Obviously better air flow with vents open. If you're working too hard to get a mouth full of vapor, you don't have enough air flow. While inhaling, your cheeks shouldn't look like you just sucked on a lemon.

 

[Huff-N-Stuff]

A couple of comments from my experience;
Pack a day smoker and my first juice tried when going to my recent re-entry to vaping with kanger subtank mini, I got my old favorite flavor called yellow cake at 12mg nic. It was a bit much nic. for me and made me feel not so good at times.
Not saying you didn`t read and follow instructions however IME, if I don`t let the wick soak for awhile and give it a few puffs before fireing, then the coil/wick is toast and has crappy harsh taste.
Like has been mentioned it will take some time to figure out what works for you.
Good luck and welcome to VU.

 

[Kim66]

1a) Yes, but your flavor will be muted.
1b) Essential Depot's PG on Amazon, if you want a good deal on a quart. USP Kosher.
2a) VG, but your flavor will be muted.
2b) Essential Depot's VG on Amazon, if you want a good deal on a quart. USP Kosher.
3) Play around; it's personal preference and dependent on unit. Obviously better air flow with vents open. If you're working too hard to get a mouth full of vapor, you don't have enough air flow. While inhaling, your cheeks shouldn't look like you just sucked on a lemon.

Great thank you so much☁☁

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[Kim66]

A couple of comments from my experience;
Pack a day smoker and my first juice tried when going to my recent re-entry to vaping with kanger subtank mini, I got my old favorite flavor called yellow cake at 12mg nic. It was a bit much nic. for me and made me feel not so good at times.
Not saying you didn`t read and follow instructions however IME, if I don`t let the wick soak for awhile and give it a few puffs before fireing, then the coil/wick is toast and has crappy harsh taste.
Like has been mentioned it will take some time to figure out what works for you.
Good luck and welcome to VU.

So give a few dry inhales before igniteing it?

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[Huff-N-Stuff]

So give a few dry inhales before igniteing it?

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Yes exactly. From what I gather..this is even more important with the max-vg liquids because they are thicker.

 

[Lost]

@UncleRJ

Tried dripping 50/50. Subtle difference; slight chemical taste. Still zero TH.

Considering the ohm's law side of my setup, that juice should have hit harder. Just tried a little 12 as well... not enough. Need to buy a new RDA and build some different coils.

 

[Kim66]

@UncleRJ

Tried dripping 50/50. Subtle difference; slight chemical taste. Still zero TH.

Considering the ohm's law side of my setup, that juice should have hit harder. Just tried a little 12 as well... not enough. Need to buy a new RDA and build some different coils.

How do you think it would do in a tank? Btw just got my 6mg. Stuff. Will report back how it goes.

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[iiKryptic-old]

+1 on Huff-N-Stuff's comment., Did you prime the coil? Add a few drops to the coil before inserting into the tank. Most of the tanks I use the premade coils require a break in time. Mostly about a half a tank to actually get good flavor. When I break them in I fill and allow to sit for 15-30 mins, few primer puffs with air flow blocked off and the most important thing is to not power hit the coil right off the bat. Agreed that the VG percent is probably a bit high for that little coil. As far as taste, hate to say it, Ecigator might not have the best nic or flavorings. You would know if the nic was too much, sweats and a very hard punch to the chest.

 

[Lost]

How do you think it would do in a tank?

Flow to the coil would be fine. Everything else is dependent on you and your device. Flavor, TH, etc.

 

[Kim66]

Well its alot better with the 6mg. Still tiny bit harsh but seem to only be able to draw with vents open. IPC tobacco ble d tastes really nice, slightly sweet virginia/turkish leaf blend taste to my palate. Lots of vapor, just only if I just do it like shisha. But still satisfactory. Ill give the vanilla gorilla a try in a bit. Could probably go down a bit in nic. But I ride with this for a while. Oh btw Im getting a couple of really hot hits, is this normal or am I deploying the button too much? You guys have all been a tremendous help. Ill be chucking big clouds soon ☺

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[Model_A_Ford]

Coil will continue to get hotter as long as it's being fired. The hotter the coil the harsher the hit.

How long are you holding down the firing button? I am normally doing 2 or 3 seconds, but different gear works differently.

 

[Kim66]

Just to follow up. The ITC nilla gorilla is really nice, and I have gotten the hang of smoking normally with the unit but 6mg is too damn much. Im headachey and not feeling too great. So down to 2mg.

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