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iiKryptic-old

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Pros? Cons? Performance? Flavor? I want to know, all of the peeps on here into Rayon wicks drop your opinions here.
 

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Pros:
No break in time.
Excellent Clean flavor.
Flavor stays truer, longer.
One box will last you and a friend a lifetime and you can pass it down to the next generation.

Con, and I can't call it a con, because it's just basic hygiene, but if you think your hands are clean enough to wick your tank, wash them again, anyway. Rayon picks up oils from your skin EASILY.

Rayon is my top choice.
 

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Pros:
No break in time.
Excellent Clean flavor.
Flavor stays truer, longer.
One box will last you and a friend a lifetime and you can pass it down to the next generation.

Con, and I can't call it a con, because it's just basic hygiene, but if you think your hands are clean enough to wick your tank, wash them again, anyway. Rayon picks up oils from your skin EASILY.

Rayon is my top choice.
I agree 300% and then more for the same exact reasons as my friend @Huckleberried has stated.


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iiKryptic-old

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Pros:
No break in time.
Excellent Clean flavor.
Flavor stays truer, longer.
One box will last you and a friend a lifetime and you can pass it down to the next generation.
Con, and I can't call it a con, because it's just basic hygiene, but if you think your hands are clean enough to wick your tank, wash them again, anyway. Rayon picks up oils from your skin EASILY.
Rayon is my top choice.
Damn, sounds like it is leaps and bounds better than cotton. Got any links to a good supplier @Huckleberried ?
 

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I has a funny taste no matter what anyone says it is made with the most caustic materials known to man.. I bought a box and used it as toilet paper and I am serious IMHO
 

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Make sure you get this one
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Whoa wait. I thought the number was supposed to be 44043???

Make sure it's 100% cellucotton.
 

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I has a funny taste no matter what anyone says it is made with the most caustic materials known to man.. I bought a box and used it as toilet paper and I am serious IMHO
Do tell, I want to hear all opinions. You didn't use it for shit paper first and than wick it? That might cause a bad flavor;)
 

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So which item number is correct. They all say 100% cellucotton, you have 44060, Hucleberried has another number and the only one on Sally's site has yet another. But they all say 100%
 

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NM the amount of product is dictated by those numbers. It's all the same product. The numbers just refer to sall's item ID
 

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Personally, I don't get "flavor" from it at all, just the flavor of my juice. I have some very good organic cotton balls as well, but I can still taste cotton till they're broken in. Seems rayon gives the juice a clean, fresh flavor from the get go. I think rayon wicks last longer than cotton as well.
 

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I guess I didn't realize that wood pulp is one of the most dangerous materials known to man.
 

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So which item number is correct. They all say 100% cellucotton, you have 44060, Hucleberried has another number and the only one on Sally's site has yet another. But they all say 100%
I wish I had the a water for ya. I do know the 44060 works great for me. I do know that Amanda uses Rauon pretty exclusively so hopefully she can pop in and give us her thoughts as well. Not sure what the differences are between the two numbers


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iiKryptic-old

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I wish I had the a water for ya. I do know the 44060 works great for me. I do know that Amanda uses Rauon pretty exclusively so hopefully she can pop in and give us her thoughts as well. Not sure what the differences are between the two numbers
All the same just different size packages.
 

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I guess I didn't realize that wood pulp is one of the most dangerous materials known to man.
Did you read what chemicals it is processed with ? also it can be made from just about anything that has fiber not just wood chips
Regardless of whether wood pulp or cotton linters are used, the basic raw material for making rayon must be processed in order to extract and purify the cellulose. The resulting sheets of white, purified cellulose are then treated to form regenerated cellulose filaments. In turn, these filaments are spun into yarns and eventually made into the desired fabric.

Processing purified cellulose
  • 1 Sheets of purified cellulose are steeped in sodium hydroxide (caustic soda), which produces sheets of alkali cellulose. These sheets are dried, shredded into crumbs, and then aged in metal containers for 2 to 3 days. The temperature and humidity in the metal containers are carefully controlled.
  • 2 After ageing, the crumbs are combined and churned with liquid carbon disulfide, which turns the mix into orange-colored crumbs known as sodium cellulose xanthate. The cellulose xanthate is bathed in caustic soda, resulting in a viscose solution that looks and feels much like honey. Any dyes or delusterants in the design are then added. The syrupy solution is filtered for impurities and stored in vats to age, this time between 4 and 5 days.
Producing filaments
  • 3 The viscose solution is next turned into strings of fibers. This is done by forcing the liquid through a spinneret, which works like a shower-head, into an acid bath. If staple fiber is to be produced, a large spinneret with large holes is used. If filament fiber is being produced, then a spinneret with smaller holes is used. In the acid bath, the acid coagulates and solidifies the filaments, now known as regenerated cellulose filaments.
Spinning
  • 4 After being bathed in acid, the filaments are ready to be spun into yarn. Depending on the type of yarn desired, several spinning methods can be used, including Pot Spinning, Spool Spinning, and Continuous Spinning. In Pot Spinning, the filaments are first stretched under controlled tension onto a series of offsetting rollers called godet wheels. This stretching reduces the diameter of the filaments and makes them more uniform in size, and it also gives the filaments more strength. The filaments are then put into a rapidly spinning cylinder called a Topham Box, resulting in a cake-like strings that stick to the sides of the Topham Box. The strings are then washed, bleached, rinsed, dried, and wound on cones or spools.
    Spool Spinning is very similar to Pot Spinning. The filaments are passed through rollers and wound on spools, where they are washed, bleached, rinsed, dried, and wound again on spools or cones.

    In Continuous Spinning, the filaments are washed, bleached, dried, twisted, and wound at the same time that they are stretched over godet wheels.

  • 5 Once the fibers are sufficiently cured, they are ready for post-treatment chemicals and the various weaving processes necessary to produce the fabric. The resulting fabric can then be given any of a number of finishing treatments. These include calendaring, to control smoothness; fire resistance; pre-shrinking; water resistance; and wrinkle resistance

Read more: http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Rayon.html#ixzz3ucsFavFC
 

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Just got 40' off eBay a few seconds ago for $7.25, less than half what other sellers were asking, and free ship. I'd go jump on that before it's gone. ;)
 

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eBay links don't show up here for some reason, but I'll go get you the item # and seller.
 

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I almost made myself sick posting hot it is made dear god.. to each their own.. why not just pick some cotton wow the description of the making of Rayon is so sickening I
Ebay cheaper than Sally's?
Just run to Sallys get a box it can be used for anything from picking up Motor oil to wiping your ass just
or here ya go you can make it at home starting with that blue scary liquid
 

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Just run to Sallys get a box it can be used for anything from picking up Motor oil to wiping your ass just
I value your opinion just as much as others, but just as you tried it I have to try it for myself as well. I do alot of shit than can't be described as "safe" and cigarettes was one of them.
 

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I value your opinion just as much as others, but just as you tried it I have to try it for myself as well. I do alot of shit than can't be described as "safe" and cigarettes was one of them.
If you have any left send it to me I have to wipe more ass
 

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If you have any left send it to me I have to wipe more ass
Sounds like most of the "Shit" is coming out of your mouth and not your ass. I take it you have tried Rayon? So is this a do as I say, not as I do situation?
 

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Sounds like most of the "Shit" is coming out of your mouth and not your ass. I take it you have tried Rayon? So is this a do as I say, not as I do situation?
Yep I have used it on multiple occasions from multiple sources and it has a odd taste because of the residue left over from the caustic materials used to make that stuff ..
 

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@MrScaryZ I asked for opinions and you gave one, even the safety info on how it's made was well received. When it goes from an opinion to a jihadist sermon against rayon its a bit much. The entirety of vaping long term health wise is not even really established, so I am not that concerned, again the chemicals used to produce a cigarette are far scarier to me than whatever is used in rayon, just saying.
 

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@MrScaryZ I asked for opinions and you gave one, even the safety info on how it's made was well received. When it goes from an opinion to a jihadist sermon against rayon its a bit much. The entirety of vaping long term health wise is not even really established, so I am not that concerned, again the chemicals used to produce a cigarette are far scarier to me than whatever is used in rayon, just saying.
Ok thats fine good luck. When asking a broad question expect broad answers
 

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please take the time to read what I posted and do not pick and choose words.. It says made with the most caustic materials whch it is.. do some research
Agreed this stuff is man made not natural. Burn some with a lighter I figure it will have a toxic smell to it.
 

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