(Newbie) Rx200 or eVic Mini, orr the Cuboid 150-200w

[ThcHemplar]

So I'm trying to upgrade from an Ijust2, currently my only mod. But in my search I came across 2 very different mods for relatively the same price (depending on the vendor). The Wismec Reuleaux Rx200 and the eVic vtc mini 75w. I've heard good reviews on both, however do I really need 200w and 3x 18650 batteries? Then again, spare batteries for the eVic mini would be no problem, but is 75w enough? i just can't afford to upgrade every few months so I'm looking for one I'll be happy with for awhile, both as a newbie, as well as once I get a little more into it.
Those are just the 2 I've come across and liked but any other recommendations are welcome too

 

[Huckleberried]

I can't compare the 2, but here's my vote for the eVic VTC Mini. Love, love, LOVE mine.

 

[ThcHemplar]

ya I mean again I use the Ijust 2 so idk what I'd actually vape at, but from most of what I hear, seems to be around 30-50w alot of the time. Also it's small enough, as where even my buddy's Sigelei 150w is a little big feeling for me, or at least a little awkward.
I did hear they updated it from 60-75w, did they also add ss to the TC mode? Not that I can say I'd use it, just didn't know if it had the option.

 

[Huckleberried]

Yes, they did. You can use SS with it. Granted, my hands might be smaller, but it feels great in my hand. I hear a lot of people say the same for the other, but I've no experience with that one. Hopefully, someone that has experience with both can weigh in for you. I'm on the lower end of the wattage scale. I'm not a sub-ohmer or a cloud chaser and my juice usually prefers lower wattage anyway.

 

[Markw4mms]

I have also heard a lot of great reviews on the RX-200, but also a few horror stories as well. I do however own two VTC Minis, and absolutely love them! Unless you're looking to vape a lot at 50-75 watts or above, I think it'll be hard to beat the VTC Mini.

 

[Teresa P]

Don't own the Evic but I love my Reuleaux! I haven't gone over 85w yet and likely won't go much higher. But if you ever plan to use a tank like a Crius or TFV4, or any higher power capable tanks/coils, you're gonna need a mod capable of more wattage. If you aren't into heavy sub ohm or using any coils that require higher wattage/temp control, you'll be perfectly happy with the Evic.

 

[Johnny Hotsauce]

I own both and love them both so IMO, it wold come down to preference of size. The RX200 is a BIG mod compared to the VTC Mini. They both do the same thing so it comes down to, do you want a heavy or light mod in your pocket, lol. I use the RX200 at home and take the VTC Mini when I go out.

If you want a bit more power, take a look at either the Joytech Cuboid, the not so much larger size wise brother to the VTC Mini but more horsepower at 200W or the Kbox 120/200. Both are not that large and run dual 18650's and can get yo either 120W or 200W.

 

[ThcHemplar]

Well that really makes it tough then lol the cuboid seems about the same as the mini just with an extra battery and a bit extra power if needed, just seems pretty new tho so far haven't heard anything bad.

 

[skt239]

I own both and love them both. The Evic VTC mini has more consistent SS and is obviously easier to carry around all day. The RX is a great at home / car mod and has a lot more power for higher wattage vaping. If I was torn between the two, I would just get the new Cuboid. It's a nice happy medium for power, battery life and portability.

 

[skt239]

I have both, they're both very fun mods. Use them each every day... for different tasks.
But I'd also suggest taking a little time and keep an ear out for more Cuboid reviews.
I'm a little curious about that one myself.

And just to clarify Johnny's comment above... the RX is not "BIG" compared to the VTC, it's "heavy" in comparison. No surprise... three batteries vs. one. But the RX continues to impress me with its' housing of three batts in such a compact enclosure. Still... it's not the "be all and end all".

You are right, for 3 batteries its really not that big at all. The weight is another story and if it were not so heavy I'd take it everywhere I go.

 

[smacksy]

You are right, for 3 batteries its really not that big at all. The weight is another story and if it were not so heavy I'd take it everywhere I go.

To me it's not that heavy at all..Fits wonderfully well in the center console in my truck..fits well iinside my jacket pocket out and about... However I do not like to carry it in my front pocket in my Levi's..
Too afraid the top cap on the TFV4 might open by accident... Lololol

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[ThcHemplar]

ya my buddy got the dna200 one feels like a small grenade lol. fortunately i dont leave the house much so traveling with it isnt really a problem for me. i just didnt know if the 3 batteries and 200w would be overkill.

 

[Tanker]

I have the RX200 with a Crown and I Vape between 85-100 watts on it. The RX is Awesome, but it is heavy. If you want "Stealth" then the RX is NOT the mod for you, however if you want versatility, days of hard Vaping, and something that will keep your Pizza warm on the way home then Hell Yeah, buy the RX200. I personally love mine. I Vape on it at the house mostly, and it works great.

 

[VapeRN]

Love my RX but it doesn't travel well. Still, most of my vaping is done seated so it can rest on a surface and not in a pocket.

3x 18650 means all day vaping and I even charge it in the mod but rotate the battery position often. It does everything I need and more.


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[Tanker]

Love my RX but it doesn't travel well. Still, most of my vaping is done seated so it can rest on a surface and not in a pocket.

3x 18650 means all day vaping and I even charge it in the mod but rotate the battery position often. It does everything I need and more.


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You are right, it doesn't travel well, and you have to rotate the battery position I figured that out after the third charge. I have mine numbered. I don't recommend the charge through feature, I tried that and the unit got pretty warm to the touch. I get about 24 hrs out of one charge.

 

[ThcHemplar]

would you reccomend getting a 2nd set of batteries for it? seeing as my only mod atm is the ijust2 it would be quite the step down while waiting for a charge, not that its a bad mod, im just sure i would be running the new one a bit higher. and again idk what id use function wise but having all the options would be nice. now it seems more like Cuboid 150-200w or Rx200

 

[Tanker]

would you reccomend getting a 2nd set of batteries for it? seeing as my only mod atm is the ijust2 it would be quite the step down while waiting for a charge, not that its a bad mod, im just sure i would be running the new one a bit higher. and again idk what id use function wise but having all the options would be nice. now it seems more like Cuboid 150-200w or Rx200

I only have 3 batteries for mine, and put them on to charge at night when I go to bed, since my charger has over charge protection. I have only had to charge during vaping hours once when I first got it. I still use my iStick 50w and Triton with Clapton Coils at work because of the size. I really love my RX, and am getting a RDA as a present to myself once I get down to 6mg of Nic, so I can build with Titanium. The RX200 and the Crown were my first gifts to myself for being Manual Free.

 

[skt239]

Love my RX but it doesn't travel well. Still, most of my vaping is done seated so it can rest on a surface and not in a pocket.

3x 18650 means all day vaping and I even charge it in the mod but rotate the battery position often. It does everything I need and more.


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Should I be rotating the positions of my batteries? I try to keep them in the same spots both in the mod and on the charger. I have not internally charged my batteries yet.

 

[skt239]

Just spitballin' here, but... do some comparison shopping with the Cuboid and Kangers' new 120w and 200w mods. I haven't seen any reviews of eh Kangers yet, not even sure if they've hit the shelves.

There are eleventySeven new mods about to come out... a little patience right now could be a very good thing.

In case anyone is interested...

 

[skt239]

Yes. If there are any significant differences in either charge or discharge rates in the bays, it averages them out. But just like keeping pairs (and trips) perfectly wedded... there's no need to be overly religious about it, as Mooch put it.

That explains the difference I have been seeing in the discharge and charge rate. It's nothing extreme but had me wondering why it was happening when they were married. I'll switch it up. Thanks a lot @Jim_MDP

 

[Tanker]

Just spitballin' here, but... do some comparison shopping with the Cuboid and Kangers' new 120w and 200w mods. I haven't seen any reviews of eh Kangers yet, not even sure if they've hit the shelves.

There are eleventySeven new mods about to come out... a little patience right now could be a very good thing.

Unlike the others, the RX 200 is a true 200 watt mod. The other 2 battery mods pulse above 150 watts, because they don't have the ability to deliver 200 watts of constant power. Personally I don't Vape at 200 watts, I Vape between 85-100, so I get tons of battery life constantly vaping at half of the potential power.

 

[skt239]

Yeah... I'm not gonna watch a half hour on a mod I don't even like the looks of (sorry Kanger fans).

What's that reviewer's verdict?

I just wanted the jist of the device and his verdict as I can't sit through reviews that long either. The verdict was he loves it and found no faults. He was also given the mod for free by Kanger so who knows... Grimm Green briefly touched on it and he said the nichrome temp control did not work so there's strike one. From what I saw in the review, no manual resistance lock, lots of plastic and the wonky temp control, I'd say it's a pass.

 

[ThcHemplar]

I just wanted the jist of the device and his verdict as I can't sit through reviews that long either. The verdict was he loves it and found no faults. He was also given the mod for free by Kanger so who knows... Grimm Green briefly touched on it and he said the nichrome temp control did not work so there's strike one. From what I saw in the review, no manual resistance lock, lots of plastic and the wonky temp control, I'd say it's a pass.

that and the battery life (for him) was about 6 hrs

 

[Condensation]

now it seems more like Cuboid 150-200w or Rx200

I've been eyeing both of these mods however I don't look forawrd to buying 6 batteries married that I only us with the RX200. I've already got the charger and plenty of married pairs of batteries. I own the evic mini and really like how it functions. I'm kinda leaning toward the cuboid hoping it will be similar to evic mini needs with twice as much battery life. Also being able to throw it in my pocket is a huge plus. You can pick up the cuboid and the cubis tank for about the same price as the Evic VTC Mini with Tron tank kit if you shop around.
Here's the specs from the Mfr. sites if that helps
http://www.wismec.com/product/reuleaux-rx200/
http://www.joyetech.com/product/cuboid/

Not sure if you know who vapenw is however they have both for $39.95 at the moemnet. Also if you don't know what brand or model of batteries to use pretty common choices are the Samsung 25R, LG HE4, and the LG HG2. Hope that helped.

 

[HaileStorm]

Hey there! I can't speak much for the RX but I do love my VTC Mini! After buying a Cuboid, I actually wondered why I upgraded sincerely I don't vape anywhere near 50w. Max wattage I vape at is 42w and the only real advantage of a dual battery mod is the extra battery life.

The weight and size are really a big factors too, for me at least. If carrying a spare battery isn't a problem for you, then the VTC Mini will keep you happy for a very long time. For features, size and weight, it's really hard to beat.

EDIT: Since you are now picking between the RX and the Cuboid, I would go for the Cuboid. I get 1.5 days of battery life with rather heavy vaping at 38w on power mode. Slim and compact design plus it looks much better than the RX imho. And it goes up to 200w (not that you'd need it).

The construction reminds me like one of those old Minolta cameras as the fire button and battery door looks and feels like that of my old camera. It's built like a tank but it is quite heavy when compared to my VTC Mini.

 

[ThcHemplar]

yeah i did really like the evic just wasnt sure about the single battery, though swapping them out would be no problem, the Rx200 just seemed like it would feel more natural to hold then other box mods, granted its a fair bit heavier. that and i figure even if i dont run it anywhere near 200w, it'll just help conserve battery? idk i still feel im too new to really form an opinion but atm the Rx200 is in the lead for me, having everything that should become the new standard, for a fair price.

 

[Mykline]

I only have 3 batteries for mine, and put them on to charge at night when I go to bed, since my charger has over charge protection. I have only had to charge during vaping hours once when I first got it. I still use my iStick 50w and Triton with Clapton Coils at work because of the size. I really love my RX, and am getting a RDA as a present to myself once I get down to 6mg of Nic, so I can build with Titanium. The RX200 and the Crown were my first gifts to myself for being Manual Free.

If you get the RDA you will drop down to 6 nic or lower real fast.

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[Tanker]

If you get the RDA you will drop down to 6 nic or lower real fast.

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Yeah, that's why I haven't bought one yet. I just dropped to 12 this week and am still working through the last 1/3 bottle of the 18 I had left. The 12 has been a bit of a shock, more than I thought it would be. I'm not in a big hurry and I'm not gonna rush this. By the time I get there maybe they will have developed the perfect RDA. Lol

 

[jumphour]

I vape at VERY low watts, but want to build coils eventually, and the eVic VTC mini was getting great reviews, so I got one. I love it. I'm used to 18500 batteries, so with my usage and settings, the 18650 is awesome. But I can certainly see how having a dual battery like the Cuboid would be great. I'm not there yet, technically, to need one, and I like a really small mod. I now have 2 new 18650 single battery devices and 4 Samsung 25R's and a nice charger, so I'm good to go.

 

[ThcHemplar]

well my buddy got his Dna200 in so hes hooked me up with his sigelei 150 for now so once i get batteries i can at least get a good idea of what i need before i go buy one myself. tho im still leaning toward the Rx200, for a reliable battery life, and a more comfortable grip vs the usual rectangular box mod setup. i like to have a full grip on my mod vs just a cpl fingers, i tend to be clumsy at times lol. also its nice and stalky so i might have less of a chance of knocking it over, my glass fishbone RDA would surely appreciate that. but lets be honest all 3 are good lol id deff get both rx200 and the mini n wait for more reviews on the cuboid. however i only get one, and the rx200 is only one that can genuinely push 200w (IF it was ever needed)

 

[ThcHemplar]

Now that you have a solid dual cell to play with, I hope you'll take my suggestion and at least investigate what else is coming out soon, as you finish up your short list.

There's this thing out there I've heard about called "will power", I may try it myself one day.

yeah now i can definitely afford to be a little more patient. I just wanted to get off the stater kit i have but at the same time i want my own vs his old rdas and mods, but it at least helps me figure it out without wasting too much money on trial and error. but yeah ill have to wait and see what's coming out while i figure out what id be running it at.

 

[Tanker]

I've been looking at another smaller mod to replace my iStick 50. I like it because it's small and stealthy. I'm leaning toward the Wismec Presa 75watt tc. I just bought some Ni200 coils for the crown and Smok makes a stock Titanium, I figure that Uwell won't be far behind. Plus Smok just came out with a Tri coil RBA for the TFV4.

 

[Ben-Rod]

Vapenw 39.99....lol..

With these newer mods you can also temp control with ss wire. So that's nice as well...

 

[skiball]

Just spitballin' here, but... do some comparison shopping with the Cuboid and Kangers' new 120w and 200w mods. I haven't seen any reviews of eh Kangers yet, not even sure if they've hit the shelves.

There are eleventySeven new mods about to come out... a little patience right now could be a very good thing.

Hey i was about to get the kanger but the battery door is super cheap. It like a wrap around housing that doesn't even have magnets. There's not even clips holding it on.

 

[skiball]

Imo cuboid at 300 grams is to heavy, rx200 is way to big, kanger is to cheap. Think im leaning to the new smok decent size (could be a lit smaller) but 190 grams and looks good and in the same price range.

 

[skiball]

If you've held a Reuleaux fine, but I have to say...

... they are heavy for their size. There's just no getting around the mass of three 18650s.

But... they're not "big". They're just about the same height as the VTC and another half dozen single cell mods I have sitting here. Ignoring the iSticks, only the D2 is shorter and that's just a bit.
Several, like the i100 or xCube are much taller. Even the Sig75.

The amazing thing is the circumference... for what it holds, it's very, very, very compact.
There's very little empty space in there.

Can you fit the rx in your pocket? And if heavy is a problem keep in mind the cuboid with batteries is about 390 grams and the rx200 is 330 grams with 3 batteries. That's not even taking the weight of a tank into the equation.

 

[skiball]

I should think those numbers are wrong. No idea which one though.

As to "pocket-friendly"... for size, sure if your pocket is jacket sized I suppose.
For the weight though? Not for me. But we've had posts by a few CCW'ers and honestly... it's a hell of a lot lighter than a mid-size carry piece.
Would get used, one hopes, a hell of lot more times during the day too. Many vs. none.

Well thats what it lists the weights on fasttech there usually good about it.

 

[Deucesjack]

I have both and I prefer the RX. The size is not a bother at all. I slap a huge tank on it and I have a true all day mod. Love it, and for under $50 I don't give a shit if I drop it or lose it.

 

[Tanker]

If Uwell doesn't have Ti for the Crown yet... they may not bother.

Nickel in the Crown is fine with a 75w mod. The low res SS heads however, especially the 0.25, really do like the higher power, and that's hard on a single 18650 mod. We've already seen one VTC melt through its positive lead from max wattage use.

Granted, TC may be easier with lower power. Hell, I'm running my 0.5 SS in TC with only 50w or so.
Just musings... YMMV.

They may not, I just bought the Ni200 coils and haven't tried them yet, but everyone I know, who has, loves them. I have a .25 in right now in the crown and LOVE IT. Picking up a TFV4 this weekend, so the Presa 75tc is not far behind.

 

[Tanker]

Yeah, if the Crown's SS heads are potentially marginal with a 75w max (power mode)... the majority of the TVF4's are going to be downright anemic.

I stopped counting before this last round of additions, but they've got to be past 20 now.
They're not all stoopid insane power hungry (ignoring the RBAs of course) but many are.

This ludicrous wattage pissing contest/arms race we've got going on?
SMOK's TVF4 is the stand alone atty equivalent.

I'm gonna slap the TFV4 on the RX200, and use the Presa 75tc with the Crown Ni200 coils and the Triton.

 

[Davonwav]

I started with an Aspire Pegasus but battery life was way too short for me. The 200 is heavier, but God the battery life~!! Aspire will not get me through 1 day but 3 days plus with the 200. It is my mod at home and Aspire for short time tasks. The 200 is a steal for the price and blows most others away IMUO. Running .04 aspire Kanthal coils and this thing puts out!

 

[scalewiz]

Whenever an electronics device is designed, a safety factor should always be built in. A circuit should not be designed to run at maximum ratings continuously or for long periods as it places the components under extreme stress; just like stress does in people, it shortens their lifespan.

Whenever buying a mod, try to buy one designed for twice as much power as you need. Buying a 60 watt device, upgrading it to 75 watts, and then using that mod for 75 watts continuously is just asking for failure. Everything is being pushed to the max and the weakest link will soon break.

I vape at 25 to 40 watts, but just purchased the Cuboid and it is my most powerful mod. I won't use it that high in power, and don't really care that it can do it. But the dual batteries are nice for longevity of power and the power overhead that it is supposed to be able to supply is simply my cushion, my insurance against premature failure because it was pushed to the limit.

BTW, for the money, the Cuboid seems, so far, to be an excellent mod. I can't discuss with others the maximum parameters of this mod since I don't ask it to go there. But I believe you can place this thing near the top in terms of 'vape value', along with the RX200.

 

[georgemeadal]

Try
http://www.cigabuy.com/joyetech-evic-vtc-mini-60w-tc-cyan-firmware-upgradeable-full-kit-p-7992.html

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[merriw51]

So I'm trying to upgrade from an Ijust2, currently my only mod. But in my search I came across 2 very different mods for relatively the same price (depending on the vendor). The Wismec Reuleaux Rx200 and the eVic vtc mini 75w. I've heard good reviews on both, however do I really need 200w and 3x 18650 batteries? Then again, spare batteries for the eVic mini would be no problem, but is 75w enough? i just can't afford to upgrade every few months so I'm looking for one I'll be happy with for awhile, both as a newbie, as well as once I get a little more into it.
Those are just the 2 I've come across and liked but any other recommendations are welcome too

Although rx 200 is good imho it is too big to carry,vtc mini works great but single battery doesn't last long enough.For now the smok alien 200 with baby beast has become ma fav.

 

[ShowerHead]

I liked my VTC Mini with their firmware.
It's MUCH better with this firmware and the software that comes with it.
Why, I can even do realtime monitoring just like my DNA mods.
https://github.com/maelstrom2001/ArcticFox