Question on chips

[Chaotic_Vapes]

Sorry if this belongs in a different category but it is about regulated mods so without further delay.

Say I buy two different regulated mods. Both use dual 18650 batteries in parallel and, for the sake of modernization, they both are using the Evolv DNA 200 chip. Now obviously they aren't the same mod because of their looks, they have displays in different locations ect. But they would perform exactly the same right?

I'm not saying jury rig a DNA 200 into a crappy box and compare it to a, let's just say a vapor shark (No matter how stupidly placed the display on it is...). However if they both run a decent wiring set up and both are regular quality mods they are essentially identical in performance right? Or is the case more important to their performance than I think?

I was thinking it they are both ventilated and they are made cleanly (no exposed wires or anything like that) then they are the same in performance and the box its in is down to personal taste.


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[centella4u]

Let's also assume the mainboards are also pretty much the same and you're using the exact same batteries, I guess the answer is yes.


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[Chaotic_Vapes]

Let's also assume the mainboards are also pretty much the same and you're using the exact same batteries, I guess the answer is yes.


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What does the main board factor in?


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[centella4u]

What does the main board factor in?


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LOL, I'm not exactly sure, but I was just trying to say that if everything "inside" are the same, then you are right in that the box is a matter of personal preference. It's only my own opinion. Better let someone with more experience in technical stuff chimes in on that.


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[Chaotic_Vapes]

LOL, I'm not exactly sure, but I was just trying to say that if everything "inside" are the same, then you are right in that the box is a matter of personal preference. It's only my own opinion. Better let someone with more experience in technical stuff chimes in on that.


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Awe man. That's what I was getting at by a decent wiring setup.

I hope they come along because if they do I'd love to let some of my cloud chasing buddies know that buying that shiny new mod won't do them any good with the same chip.

For example I bought a Reuleaux DNA 200 and yes it's stronger because it runs in series but I'm thinking buying a vapor shark and a lava box (both DNA 200s) would be a waste if there's no difference other than appearance. Unless they run series in one and parallel on the other, pretty sure they are both parallel.

Thanks for the input though. Maybe I'll do some looking around online once I get a chance.


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[Chaotic_Vapes]

I'd like to head from someone with several DNAs, and/or someone from Evolve.
There's a reason they coded an enclosure thermal analyzer.

But just how substantial a difference does it address?

I'm thinking it's like the battery analyzer, that I haven't run since it's not too big a deal, in the sense that it's going to aid you slightly but not enough to give you an edge in say a cloud competition.

I'm also fairly certain it's for temp control, seeing as they use room temp in the algorithm for it and if the case retains a lot of heat it would throw it off badly.

I haven't used TC ever despite owning mods capable of it since I mainly cloud chase and I'd have to look around but I don't think TC would aid in a cloud comp for regulated mods. If that makes any sense? If I find an answer and nobody has put one here I'll definitely post it.


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[Chaotic_Vapes]

This just in, no answer on mods question but I completely forgot that nichrome (not sure about TI or SS) heats up faster than kanthal. Making it more efficient for cloud chasing builds that would take awhile to ramp up. Other than that I wouldn't see a performance change. Now I'm waiting on board info.


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[Wingsfan0310]

First off, with DNA200 chips you have to have the batteries run in series. The minimum they can run with is 2 x 3.7v (7.4v nominal voltage) in series. In this configuration you get a maximum of 133 watts. It can also be run with 3 x 3.7v batteries in series (11.1v nominal voltage). This configuration gives you the maximum of 200 watts.

Now to the other part of your question. As long as the other components are of good quality (510 connector, wiring, etc). A different box or style will make no difference in how it performs when using the same chip. I have a Hcigar VT200, Hotcig DX200, Volcano Lavabox, and Reuleaux DNA200 (all DNA200 mods). They all perform equally good. Now of course the bigger the battery, the longer the run time, but other than that I've seen no differences. The main differences are cosmetic, how it feels in hand, and run time.

PS Now different companies chips can and will have differences. In other words not all 200 watt chips are created equally. Most two battery 200 watt mods will pulse above 150 watts or not really be able to do 200 watts in the first place.

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[Vlad1]

Awe man. That's what I was getting at by a decent wiring setup.

I hope they come along because if they do I'd love to let some of my cloud chasing buddies know that buying that shiny new mod won't do them any good with the same chip.

For example I bought a Reuleaux DNA 200 and yes it's stronger because it runs in series but I'm thinking buying a vapor shark and a lava box (both DNA 200s) would be a waste if there's no difference other than appearance. Unless they run series in one and parallel on the other, pretty sure they are both parallel.

Thanks for the input though. Maybe I'll do some looking around online once I get a chance.


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In addition to what's been stated there is a difference with the Vaproshark DNA200 models in that they are capable of 2 amp charge rate, twice that of any other DNA200 board that I'm aware of so charge time is much quicker. Aside from that the main differences in DNA200 devices will be size / shape, battery type / capacity / runtime, charge time and maximum output power depending on 2 or 3 cell configuration. Some will also be easier to charge with external chargers like the Reuleaux that use 18650's for those that don't like charging inside the mods. While others that use Lipo's aren't necessarily as easily accessible to remove from the enclosure and some have been soldered directly to the board.

A potential problem with some of the devices using 18650's are the DNA200 board wasn't really designed for removable batteries so there is no true on board reverse battery protection only a SMD fuse. So you have in the case of the Reuleaux a lip (mechanical separator) in the battery tray to help prevent contact if the battery is installed backwards. If that lip fails or is allowed to make contact and the battery is put in backwards at minimum you'll probably need to desolder / resolder a new SMD fuse and possibly the board.