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10 wrap .05 ohm build? What kind of wire?

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misa0890

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Whats up guys, a few days ago I went to one of my local vape shops and asked for a nichrome build. I stepped outside for a few minutes and by the time I returned he had finished building it. It ended up being a 10 wrap build reading at .05 ohms...? I know for sure nichrome is not supposed to read that low with that many wraps. I haven't worked with titanium, stainless steel, or nickel so I'm assuming its one of those. The coil heats up super quick (maybe even quicker that nichrome) which led me to believe it was titanium since titanium heats up quicker than nichrome. The many behind the counter assured me that it wasn't and insisted it was nichrome. We ended up agreeing to disagree. Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the wrap but it appears to be a 24 guage wrapped 10 times. I tried different ohm readers they all read at .05 ohms so its not the ohm reader that's messed up. Also, nichrome is supposed to have a sort of blue shine to it in which this wire did not. I would appreciate any input. Thanks in advance.
 

smacksy

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Don't know about it turning blue
But I have a dual coil 24g Nichrome build in my Griffin..10 wraps on a 3mm bit at .25 ohms vapes great at about 75-80w..a single 10 wrap coil sounds about right at.5 ohms. Maybe others will chime in too..


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pescadore

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24g Nichrome N20 10 wraps on 2.5mm rod at .536 ohms according to Steam Engine
 

misa0890

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Don't know about it turning blue
But I have a dual coil 24g Nichrome build in my Griffin..10 wraps on a 3mm bit at .25 ohms vapes great at about 75-80w..a single 10 wrap coil sounds about right at.5 ohms. Maybe others will chime in too..


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Sorry about the ambiguity, its a dual coil and the build is .05 ohms; not .5 ohms.
 

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Could be parallel Nicrome 80. Is it a single strand wrapped in series? Or are there several leads going into each post holes?


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robot zombie

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Hmmm.

I'm a little baffled as to why he left you with a .05 ohm build unless it was for TC, in which case it would be nickel, titanium, or ss. That wouldn't be too smart of him otherwise. The fact that he swears his .05 build was nichrome makes me wonder if he really knew what he was doing at all. Not saying it can't be nichrome. I just wonder why anyone would do that with nichrome in the first place. I mean TC nichrome exists, but it's not exactly a primary TC wire. What device was this build supposed to be for?
 
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misa0890

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Could be parallel Nicrome 80. Is it a single strand wrapped in series? Or are there several leads going into each post holes?


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Its just a single wrap. One lead in each post hole. What do the numbers after the type of wire mean? "Nichrome80". "Nickel200" etc?
 

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Hmmm.

I'm a little baffled as to why he left you with a .05 ohm build unless it was for TC, in which case it would be nickel, titanium, or ss. That wouldn't be too smart of him otherwise. The fact that he swears his .05 build was nichrome makes me wonder if he really knew what he was doing at all. Not saying it can't be nichrome. I just wonder why anyone would do that with nichrome in the first place. I mean TC nichrome exists, but it's not exactly a primary TC wire. What device was this build supposed to be for?

Yea I don't think he was that experienced. I have both a SMPL+ and an eVic VTC. I told him I was putting it on my mech mod so I wouldn't be able to use it in TC mode. Maybe a dumb question but. what happens if you use a TC wire on a non TC device/mech mod? Dangerous?
 

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My personal experience with nickel it ramps up fairly fast especially for low resistance builds. And it will ramp up really fast for sure if its in power mode lol. Nichrome and nickel are totally different colors easy to tell the difference by looking at them Imo. Nichrome has a dark shine and nickel is bright and shiny. Whatd it look like before it was fired?

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Sounds about right to me as that is about what I end up with using NI200
 

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My personal experience with nickel it ramps up fairly fast especially for low resistance builds. And it will ramp up really fast for sure if its in power mode lol. Nichrome and nickel are totally different colors easy to tell the difference by looking at them Imo. Nichrome has a dark shine and nickel is bright and shiny. Whatd it look like before it was fired?

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Nichrome kind of has a blue/greening glossy finish, that's why I insisted it wasn't nichrome. The wire looked like a more metallic kanthal.
 

JERUS

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Color looks like Nickel, resistance reads like Nickel, yup probably nickel. Guy at the shop is trying to get you killed if you told him you were putting that on a SMPL.
 

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Nickel is very shiny silver color....is there a chance this person may not like you for some reason??lol jk Or must be inexperienced which is not good for new vape customers leaving that shop!!

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I dont see you can get 10 wraps in with anything other then NI200 and be that low...
I had to build a Four Cores Wide 22g Full Nichrome80 Fused Clapton and with 6 wraps it was .05....Insane amount of wire and width just to drop down to that resistance. If it doesnt look like this then its GOT TO BE NI200:
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I wouldnt ever return to that shop, thats not safe, thats not safe!
The Guy doesnt know what he is working with for wire obviously.
He left you with a super subohm build and your not experienced enough to use them...
Im sure that it wasnt used on TC if it is a NI200 build.
There is soo many reasons this is life threatening for you its pretty unbelievable the guy works at a shop.

DO NO USE THAT DAMN BUILD! IF YOU DO MAKE SURE ITS ON NICKLE TC MODE, I am 110% sure thats what it is unless there's a short some where and thats why its reading that low.
 

robot zombie

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Color looks like Nickel, resistance reads like Nickel, yup probably nickel. Guy at the shop is trying to get you killed if you told him you were putting that on a SMPL.
For real though! A modest estimate on the amp draw (3.7v) is 74 battery-popping amps.

Its just a single wrap. One lead in each post hole. What do the numbers after the type of wire mean? "Nichrome80". "Nickel200" etc?
Nichrome is a nickel-chrome alloy. It's generally a non-temp control wire with a lower resistance than kanthal and faster heating. Sometimes it is used for temp control, but more commonly it isn't. Nickel is considered a non-resistance wire. TC-only. If you run it on a mech mod, the resistance will be dangerously low.

The numbers refer to the alloy... ...the balance of metals. Nichrome 80 is 80% nickel. Ni200, on the other hand is essentially pure nickel... ...it is at least 99% nickel.

I wouldnt ever return to that shop, thats not safe, thats not safe!
I would bring that build to his boss so he can see what his employee sent a mech-user off with. He needs to know about that shit man! Can't have this dude sending other people off with builds like that. It's a news investigation waiting to happen man! Like, holy fuck....
 
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JERUS

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I would bring that build to his boss so he can see what his employee sent a mech-user off with. He needs to know about that shit man! Can3't have this dude sending other people off with builds like that. It's a news investigation waiting to happen man! Like, holy fuck....
That or ask the guy to vape it himself, then go find some cover ;)
 

smacksy

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10 wraps of 24g Nichrome on a 3mm bit comes out to a little bit over .5..I use two of them in my Griffin for about .26 total..vapes great I might add, :)

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10 wraps of 24g Nichrome on a 3mm bit comes out to a little bit over .5..I use two of them in my Griffin for about .26 total..vapes great I might add, :)

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Yeah if its .5 could easily be other types of wire but OP said .05 and was very specific they checked it on different ohm readers. As long as that wasnt the mistake made, they should really tell the shop owner the dangers of sending someone off with a build bound to blow up!!
 

smacksy

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Yeah if its .5 could easily be other types of wire but OP said .05 and was very specific they checked it on different ohm readers. As long as that wasnt the mistake made, they should really tell the shop owner the dangers of sending someone off with a build bound to blow up!!
Yeah, I think .05 would be hard to achieve with 10 wraps of even 20-22g wire...I guess I misunderstood the OP thinking .5 ohm was his target.. Oh well,
Can only wish him good luck and stay safe...

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