Help! TFA - Rainbow Drops weight per ml?

[CalBlackSheep]

Hi all,

I'm trying to find out what the grams per ml of TFA's Rainbow Drops is. I'm kind of excited about getting my first DIY stuff in the mail soon and wanted to have all of my recipes ready to go. I'll be using a digital reloading scale and weighing everything out to hopefully keep the equipment cost down by using what I have. While allowing me to accurately follow recipes until i get the hang of things.

Hopefully someone here can help me out.

 

[Huckleberried]

Weight an empty syringe, then fill syringe with 1ml of Rainbow drops, weight that. Find the difference

Unless someone happens to know the weight. I use 1g for all my flavors, but I go for consistency in mixes for myself.

 

[AmandaD]

Ditto with the above! I just use 1ml/gm for all my flavorings and adjust as needed.

 

[sychosis]

I believe it's 1.035 for that flavor , I use it often at 5% to make a clone of fear the rainbow , also use tfa rainbow sherbet at 2.5 % and 3% rainbow drops to make a special blend I call candy ass , it has the after bite of the rainbow drops and a smoother inhale of the sherbet flavor . Hope that helps you out

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[centella4u]

Weight an empty syringe, then fill syringe with 1ml of Rainbow drops, weight that. Find the difference

Unless someone happens to know the weight. I use 1g for all my flavors, but I go for consistency in mixes for myself.

Sorry for asking, but 1g of flavoring per what?


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[AmandaD]

Sorry for asking, but 1g of flavoring per what?


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I gram = 1 ml if you're doing it the way Huck and I do!

 

[centella4u]

I gram = 1 ml if you're doing it the way Huck and I do!

Still the question remains, "per what?".
Like, hmmm, how can I rephrase this?
1 gram in how much other mixtures (pg & vg)?


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[Huckleberried]

Depends on the mix, the qty and the ratios. Example:




In this example, I have my flavors as 1gm per ml. The recipe calculates the weight of that flavor to add based on that, I then weigh that amount of flavoring into the mix.

 

[nabibrian]

I like my Rainbow Drops, but not quite the flavor I thought it would be.

 

[CalBlackSheep]

I believe it's 1.035 for that flavor , I use it often at 5% to make a clone of fear the rainbow , also use tfa rainbow sherbet at 2.5 % and 3% rainbow drops to make a special blend I call candy ass , it has the after bite of the rainbow drops and a smoother inhale of the sherbet flavor . Hope that helps you out

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That helps a lot! Also thanks for the recipe ideas

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[CalBlackSheep]

Still the question remains, "per what?".
Like, hmmm, how can I rephrase this?
1 gram in how much other mixtures (pg & vg)?


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I hope this helps.

Let's say a recipe calls for 10% strawberry. 10% in this particular recipe equals 2ml. 1ml of strawberry flavor weighs 1 gram. So you need 2gms of strawberry for this recipe.

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[SailCat]

Still the question remains, "per what?".
Like, hmmm, how can I rephrase this?
1 gram in how much other mixtures (pg & vg)?

Hi, centella4u. Good to see you active, as always!

The question was how a particular flavoring weight. One answer above was 1.035, which is close enough to 1 for most of us. This is a weight of one gram per milliliter. It will remain the same *per milliliter* whether combined with more flavoring, PG pr VG. It wold be the same as 1 milliliter of water weighing one gram whether it's by itself or in a lake.

This is gonna be one of those "Oh, right!" moments 'cause I know what a smart guy your are.

 

[centella4u]

Hi, centella4u. Good to see you active, as always!

The question was how a particular flavoring weight. One answer above was 1.035, which is close enough to 1 for most of us. This is a weight of one gram per milliliter. It will remain the same *per milliliter* whether combined with more flavoring, PG pr VG. It wold be the same as 1 milliliter of water weighing one gram whether it's by itself or in a lake.

This is gonna be one of those "Oh, right!" moments 'cause I know what a smart guy your are.

Hi, cat ... I may be dumber than you think, especially when it comes to DIY. But, maybe it's in my way of asking the question.
I want to know the percentage of flavor to add to pg & vg.
Does that makes more sense?
My "per" is how much pg/vg I should add 1 g. of flavor to. Hopefully not 1 g of flavor to 1 mil of pg/vg.

PS I wasn't asking for the "conversion" but for the "recipe".


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[Huckleberried]

Hi, cat ... I may be dumber than you think, especially when it comes to DIY. But, maybe it's in my way of asking the question.
I want to know the percentage of flavor to add to pg & vg.
Does that makes more sense?
My "per" is how much pg/vg I should add 1 g. of flavor to. Hopefully not 1 g of flavor to 1 mil of pg/vg.

PS I wasn't asking for the "conversion" but for the "recipe".


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If I'm understanding you correctly, this is completely dependent of the recipe and the ratio of pg/vg and nic and what size you're making. If you use a calculator with pre-set weights, it will tell you exactly how much of each product you need to add. If you're nic is in a PG base, it will make that allowance. Same if it is in VG base. Same allowances for flavorings.

 

[SailCat]

Huckleberried is right, of course (and as usual). To expound on that answer, flavorings vary in intensity one to another, from one brand to another and one's perception of flavors will vary from one individual to the next. If you see a posting of one person indicating how much they love grackleberry (or whatever) at 10% you can count on the next person postin, "Really? I find it overwhelming a 1%!"

There are charts (which one or the other of us would be delighted to locate for you if it;s of interest) that will indicate suggested starting percentages but it's really different for almost every flavor.

Slightly off topic: You have demonstrated to me, in pictures and conversation, the degree to which you're devoted to vaping. You'll find DIY adds yet another facet that is most rewarding. You're gonna love it!

 

[centella4u]

@Huckleberried Yep, you got it.
@SailCat I'd appreciate very much if you can point me to some kinds of recipe or formula to start with. I love those creamy and sweet flavors and I already have 3 gallons of vg, a gallon of pg and a bottle of nic (can't remember the size, lol, but my friend who bought it for me said it's enough for Nic3-4) in my hand.


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[gopher_byrd]

What you need is a DIY calculator. There are calcs for Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS as well as online calcs. It will let you put in your base nic strength that is shown as mg/ml or just mg and what your nic is mixed in PG or VG or a mixture of both. Most folks use 100 mg nic then add a small amount of that to their recipe which the calculator will tell you how much. Then you decide what size you are going to make 10 ml sample or 30 ml or whatever, what pg/vg percentage you want your finished juice to be, and the percentages of the different flavors in your recipe. The calculator will then tell you how much of each you need to mix up to make the size you chose to make.

I use e-juice me up which is free. It is Windows only and you can get it here: http://ejuice.breaktru.com/ This calculator will tell you how much of everything to put in as milliliters as well as grams or drops (totally inaccurate). You will need to put in what your pg, vg, nic, and flavors weigh. The thread I link to below has the weights for pg, vg, and nic. Flavors vary by manufacturer and flavor, that's why most folks use 1 mg/ml for the flavor weight

Maybe this thread will help you wrap your head around everything: http://vapingunderground.com/threads/guide-to-mixing-by-weight.22891/

As far as recipes are concerned, there are bunches over in the recipe sub-forum. Pick a few that look interesting and buy the flavors to make them.

I know this looks like rocket science, but with a DIY calculator it isn't

 

[SailCat]

@gopher_byrd is sure right about a calculator. Be sure to check the nic level in the liquid you have. Extra caution is a possibility, depending on that number. Please be so kind to check that, after which we can talk recipes.

 

[CalBlackSheep]

I really like the app sychosis recommended called E-Juice Lab. You can keep track of the flavors you already have and also adjust each flavors weight per ml.. Then when it's time to make a recipe you can just select the flavors from your list, input what percentage of each flavor you want, your PG/VG ratio, and Nic strength. It calculates everything and then gives you the option of putting it together by volume (ml), weight(grams), or even drops if you really want.

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