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VU's name should probably be changed to UMBV or MPV ... U Mad Bro Vaping or Mud Pit Vaping. Especially if conflict resolution means moving topics to different areas.
 
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moecat said:
VU's name should probably be changed to UMBV or MPV ... U Mad Bro Vaping or Mud Pit Vaping. Especially if conflict resolution means moving topics to different areas.
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its not a perminent move whats the big deal.
Also feel i should clarify, i agree the guy was a bit harsh but honestly were it vapeture he was talking to versus who it was would the issue had gotton so out of hand?
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With that guy of course it would have gotten much more out of hand
 
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Great song and question...

 
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So... I was asleep most of the afternoon and evening, and will miss a good chunk of the first half of tomorrow thanks to an MRI... but I have caught up and have to say to the AU regulars, just like I did to the Red Room regulars... who cares if the thread is in "U Mad Bro"?

Other than the fact that a troll or two will pop in simply because they enjoy the drama that the section was created for, the core group will stay the same and if we simply ignore the trolls they will get bored and lose interest.

The big thing that bothers me about the whole issue is the fact that the mods seem to have turned into a bit of a thread hit squad lately. I have noticed that whenever there is a certain level of dissent or complaints then at least 3 or 4 of them will descend on the thread and start making posts about how the topic should just go away and typically they will continue to do so in a fashion that actually causes the subject to get hashed out again several times before it finally gets forgotten.

Additionally, I am disappointed to see that mods are starting to threaten users and "threads" with punishment if they don't snap in line. I never was a member of ECF, but it has been abundantly clear that this type of behavior by mods is the primary reason that VU was created. It is actually quite sad, not in an emotional way, but in a shake your head, wish it were so clear to the offender, condescending way.

The idea of this whole "donater" thing with it's exclusive forum area is just to elitest to really pay much attention to. Anybody who would pay to access a special area of a forum pretty much deserves to have their money taken from them. It is particularly laughable that the admins are already touting an area that doesn't have very many regular members to vendors as a special place to get attention from users who are willing and anxious to give them their money.

Assuming that VU garner's millions of "hits" a day, then it generates enough income to be self supporting. Anybody who thinks that Joe is not internet income savvy enough to know how to accomplish that is simply naive. I personally have heard him admit to a background running internet porn sites. This experience naturally generates knowledge of how things like CPM, CPI, click throughs, analytics and other such things mean in the internet advertising arena. Based on the current VU advertising rates, the site is pulling in at least $1500 per month right now which should be more than enough to handle the actual traffic that this site generates which is actually fairly small in the grand scheme of all things internet (oh and "hits" is generally accepted as lying with numbers by anyone professional in the internet advertising world because it is ambiguous).

Finally, we all have to accept the fact that while vapers own businesses, that does not make them businessmen who understand PR, public image, and customer service. This will continue to be true until the market is mature enough to weed out the, well, the immature.

Everyone simply step back and remember that AU is about the participants, not the heading of the sub-forum that the thread may currently reside. The sub-forum doesn't matter, we do.

And feel free to complain about anyone you want to, even if it is a mod, admin or "owner". I doubt any of us would really care to be personal friends with most of them IRL, so why do you really care about them or their opinions here? They might troll the thread, but like any other troll, if you ignore them they will go away...

So, vape on and remember that a bulldozer is only as good as the parts it is assembled from. If the parts go away, the bulldozer ceases to exist...
 
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Just Me said:
its not a perminent move whats the big deal.
Also feel i should clarify, i agree the guy was a bit harsh but honestly were it vapeture he was talking to versus who it was would the issue had gotton so out of hand?
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I would have stood up and said the same stuff.. In fact, I have done just that before.. Wrong is wrong. Why are people crying foul just 'cause it was against kelli? If it was you or even v3p4rmag, I would have done the same..

If that makes me a douche-bag troll, then so be it. What are they gonna do, take away my internet points and tell my mommy?
 
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Midniteoyl said:
I would have stood up and said the same stuff.. In fact, I have done just that before.. Wrong is wrong. Why are people crying foul just 'cause it was against kelli? If it was you or even v3p4rmag, I would have done the same..

If that makes me a douche-bag troll, then so be it. What are they gonna do, take away my internet points and tell my mommy?
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Hun i know you would have done the same for anyone, you are a great guy and we all know that.
I did not mean because it was kelli lack of sleep and extra meds due to more pain seem to be affecting the way i am coming across.
My point was there were things she said and they may have been joking were hurtful to some mods. Yet not one person mentioned that. That mod owes her an appology i agree and if that is how he feels maybe he should have addressed her in a pm or she could have pmd him letting him know it hurt and that it was all in fun and maybe just maybe it would not have blown up and au would not be in u mad bro.
I seem to remember being called out on something that was not true and it did not feel so great but i sent a pm didnt make a spectacle out of it.
Its over lets just put it behind and move on
 
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Midniteoyl said:
I would have stood up and said the same stuff.. In fact, I have done just that before.. Wrong is wrong. Why are people crying foul just 'cause it was against kelli? If it was you or even v3p4rmag, I would have done the same..

If that makes me a douche-bag troll, then so be it. What are they gonna do, take away my internet points and tell my mommy?
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Dude you're Definitely not a D-bag in any way ,form, or fashion. In the last year, between here, you-tube and ECF I've never seen you be anything but courteous and informed. If anyone's been an intermittent ass-hat its been me but I try to make up for it by being honest about my mistakes and coming clean when I'm in the wrong....But you?--Nah man your all good :D.
 
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Good Morning yawl:)I'm recycling quotes, haven't received my daily dose yet

Of foremost importance are the people--not celebrities, the powerful, the rich, scholars or others whom society deems great or praiseworthy. The purpose of all things must be the happiness of the people. Everything else should be but a means to that end. Those who fail to recognize this fundamental point and look down on the people and exploit them are thoroughly vile and contemptible; they are a hindrance to people's happiness.
 
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Just Me said:
Hun i know you would have done the same for anyone, you are a great guy and we all know that.
I did not mean because it was kelli lack of sleep and extra meds due to more pain seem to be affecting the way i am coming across.
My point was there were things she said and they may have been joking were hurtful to some mods. Yet not one person mentioned that. That mod owes her an appology i agree and if that is how he feels maybe he should have addressed her in a pm or she could have pmd him letting him know it hurt and that it was all in fun and maybe just maybe it would not have blown up and au would not be in u mad bro.
I seem to remember being called out on something that was not true and it did not feel so great but i sent a pm didnt make a spectacle out of it.
Its over lets just put it behind and move on
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Well, to be honest, I was the one who started the debacle. She may have mentioned a concern, but I took it from there.
 
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Just Me said:
Hun i know you would have done the same for anyone, you are a great guy and we all know that.
I did not mean because it was kelli lack of sleep and extra meds due to more pain seem to be affecting the way i am coming across.
My point was there were things she said and they may have been joking were hurtful to some mods. Yet not one person mentioned that. That mod owes her an appology i agree and if that is how he feels maybe he should have addressed her in a pm or she could have pmd him letting him know it hurt and that it was all in fun and maybe just maybe it would not have blown up and au would not be in u mad bro.
I seem to remember being called out on something that was not true and it did not feel so great but i sent a pm didnt make a spectacle out of it.
Its over lets just put it behind and move on
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Little slow but I licked your legs in Russ's room. :D
 
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The storm has arrived...
 
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InMyImage said:
So... I was asleep most of the afternoon and evening, and will miss a good chunk of the first half of tomorrow thanks to an MRI... but I have caught up and have to say to the AU regulars, just like I did to the Red Room regulars... who cares if the thread is in "U Mad Bro"?

Other than the fact that a troll or two will pop in simply because they enjoy the drama that the section was created for, the core group will stay the same and if we simply ignore the trolls they will get bored and lose interest.

The big thing that bothers me about the whole issue is the fact that the mods seem to have turned into a bit of a thread hit squad lately. I have noticed that whenever there is a certain level of dissent or complaints then at least 3 or 4 of them will descend on the thread and start making posts about how the topic should just go away and typically they will continue to do so in a fashion that actually causes the subject to get hashed out again several times before it finally gets forgotten.

Additionally, I am disappointed to see that mods are starting to threaten users and "threads" with punishment if they don't snap in line. I never was a member of ECF, but it has been abundantly clear that this type of behavior by mods is the primary reason that VU was created. It is actually quite sad, not in an emotional way, but in a shake your head, wish it were so clear to the offender, condescending way.

The idea of this whole "donater" thing with it's exclusive forum area is just to elitest to really pay much attention to. Anybody who would pay to access a special area of a forum pretty much deserves to have their money taken from them. It is particularly laughable that the admins are already touting an area that doesn't have very many regular members to vendors as a special place to get attention from users who are willing and anxious to give them their money.

Assuming that VU garner's millions of "hits" a day, then it generates enough income to be self supporting. Anybody who thinks that Joe is not internet income savvy enough to know how to accomplish that is simply naive. I personally have heard him admit to a background running internet porn sites. This experience naturally generates knowledge of how things like CPM, CPI, click throughs, analytics and other such things mean in the internet advertising arena. Based on the current VU advertising rates, the site is pulling in at least $1500 per month right now which should be more than enough to handle the actual traffic that this site generates which is actually fairly small in the grand scheme of all things internet (oh and "hits" is generally accepted as lying with numbers by anyone professional in the internet advertising world because it is ambiguous).

Finally, we all have to accept the fact that while vapers own businesses, that does not make them businessmen who understand PR, public image, and customer service. This will continue to be true until the market is mature enough to weed out the, well, the immature.

Everyone simply step back and remember that AU is about the participants, not the heading of the sub-forum that the thread may currently reside. The sub-forum doesn't matter, we do.

And feel free to complain about anyone you want to, even if it is a mod, admin or "owner". I doubt any of us would really care to be personal friends with most of them IRL, so why do you really care about them or their opinions here? They might troll the thread, but like any other troll, if you ignore them they will go away...

So, vape on and remember that a bulldozer is only as good as the parts it is assembled from. If the parts go away, the bulldozer ceases to exist...
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Sometimes you sound smart.
I like that ;)
 
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