Any way to ween someone off vendor juices?

[MeghaJEZUS]

Hello VU,
Ive been making juice for about a year now, I started mixing when I moved to Germany for a year of study abroad in college. Over that time I lost my normal love for fruity vendor juices with >5% sweetener and have moved on to love many of HICs, Hucks, and willmcs recipies.
Now im back in America with my old friends and roommates who want to buy juice from me because I can make it so cheap. Although I really have nothing they like, it's all lightly flavored coffee, cream, and some fruity type vapes inspired by the FA recipies Ive learned to love here.
Should I just go out and buy some TFA Sweetener, double up percentages, or tell them I don't want to make any of that sweetened nonsense?

 

[Budds]

IMHO...

Its "Easy" to make juice for yourself because you know what suits your needs.
Alot of what a juice will taste like has a lot to do with the device being used.
What taste great to me in my Russian clone, tastes muted and loses a lot of nuance when vaped from an eVod.
And throw sub ohm into the mix and you really gotta work at it !

So the big eLiquid providers tend to "Over do" it a bit to satisfy the biggest market share, that being newly off cigs and using entry level gear.
That said.... "Entry level" has become more geared toward Sub Tanks so that thick, chocolate cream ect will be tough on most Sub gear.
This is all just MHO.....

Try your liquid in your friends gear, maybe they need heavier flavor cuz their gear smothers it ?
Just a thought.............

 

[Huckleberried]

If they're not happy with what you're making and can't offer you suggestions on what they do like, let 'em over spend on what they've been getting. Are they new to vaping? Might be their taste buds just aren't "there" yet.

If you're making HIC's and wllmc's stuff and it's not up their alley, I have to think their taste buds aren't fully recovered, but as Budds, mentioned, I guess it could be the difference in gear, too.

I've had a couple vendor juices lately, been a while since I had. Some were "ok", some just NOT. I never realized how overly they sweet they are when I was buying them. BUT... they got me off cigs. As far as adding sweetener or doubling flavor, ask them what it is specifically. You can't help them if they can't help you.

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

Some dead guy once said, "give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him for the rest of his life"

 

[Time]

When I make juice for other people I give them a few 10ml bottles of different recipes.

I also give them the full recipe to each juice on a piece of paper. If they like it, they can make their own.

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

When I make juice for other people I give them a few 10ml bottles of different recipes.

I also give them the full recipe to each juice on a piece of paper. If they like it, they can make their own.

Thats pretty classy of you. Most people guard their recipes with two crocodiles and a rabid tiger.
I like the idea, "here is what I used, you can do this too".

 

[Discobob]

I had to tell all my buddies to piss off, they are lazy and annoying and want everyone to do all the work, yea just let me know how much I will pitch in for supplies and you can make it....Um no, its easy enough they can do it. I'm a jerk I guess

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

I had to tell all my buddies to piss off, they are lazy and annoying and want everyone to do all the work, yea just let me know how much I will pitch in for supplies and you can make it....Um no, its easy enough they can do it. I'm a jerk I guess

Yea, easy enough for a rocket surgeon like you! Us dummies will keep paying a buck a milliliter.
No dogs ever learn any tricks, we just buy them and hope they work.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I stopped making for other people because no one took the time to make it doe themselves as long as I was dong it for them. then they were calling me at weird times like I was the pusher man.
I finally just put together a list of what they wild need and told them to figure it out.
Tough love brother!

 

[trlrtrash13]

This is the general problem with diy. People like the prices, but not the juice. The only way to really wean someone off of vendor juices and on to diy is if cost is more important to them than quality. I would just give them samples of what you make for yourself and if it works for them than so be it. If not, I wouldn't chase flavors trying to make them happy. I have had people do that with me and it just makes both of us uncomfortable. I am willing to pay for good juice, and unwilling to vape sub par juice, so they would keep trying and I would keep saying no. I had some good friends who didn't mind my brutal honesty, and some former friends who weren't fond of it. If they want to save money badly enough they will like something you make. If they don't, let their chase for the perfect juice be their headache and not yours.

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

The other problem with diy is when people dont do ample research and make good decisions. I only vaped vendor juice for about 6months until I started to make my own. When I bought flavors, I bought very well reviewed and widely used flavors that seemed to go together (tfa ry4dbl and tfa caramel candy was my first order). I vaped caramel ry4 for a month or two until I started to branch out and experiment with other flavorings. Then and now, I look at what flavorings get the best feedback, find the percentages people use them at, then try it myself with mostly good results. Sure, there are some flops, but research always pays off.
My point is, you gotta care about making good juice and learn as much as you can before you spend your money on flavorings.
To throw shit at the wall is to fail. It will stick, but it smells like shit.

 

[wllmc]

I would just give them samples of what you make for yourself and if it works for them than so be it. If not, I wouldn't chase flavors trying to make them happy.

this right here .
make what YOU like and let them try it, if they dont like it more for you and they can go spend 30 bucks a ml somewhere lol I have tried adjusting reciepes for people and it can get maddening and then if you come up with something new its always "can you adjust xxx just a little?" next thing you know you have spent 100 bucks on flavoring you would have never bought before trying to please someone else so THEY can vape cheap.

Id tell them like this .....
I have megajezus creamy coffee or you can have this roasted chicken vape, your choice buddy. lol.

 

[wllmc]

then they were calling me at weird times like I was the pusher man.
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hey man , hey man , hey man , I know its 3 am man but like, um can I get a little G.O.C. hahahaha

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

this right here .
make what YOU like and let them try it, if they dont like it more for you and they can go spend 30 bucks a ml somewhere lol I have tried adjusting reciepes for people and it can get maddening and then if you come up with something new its always "can you adjust xxx just a little?" next thing you know you have spent 100 bucks on flavoring you would have never bought before trying to please someone else so THEY can vape cheap.

Id tell them like this .....
I have megajezus creamy coffee or you can have this roasted chicken vape, your choice buddy. lol.

Thats funny, offend their sensibilities with a some crab or chikin n waffles, then see how much they appreciate your normal mixes.

 

[fq06]

Maybe its that my buddies have been vaping a while and their taste buds aren't scorched off any longer but I get the opposite.
I hear that mine are thick, full body juices and they can't find replacements at the B&M's. But I do like more flavoring than most diyers at VU, maybe thats it? Maybe just bump the total flavor % a bit for their mixes?

For sweetener, I used sucralose for a while but that gave me a nasty chemical fake sweetner tast after a couple months and I just can't vape anything with it in it anymore.
I picked up some OneonOne sweetner which when I asked they said is not sucralose. They wouldn't say what it is but it's definitely different and doesn't give me that chemical taste.
I will use marshmallow and meringue too but usually add a few drops of OoO's sweetener if the juice needs a little help.

I hear FA Joy is the new up and coming sweetner, gotta order some of that soon.

 

[Joshua Iles]

From a person's perspective who has bought 99.8% vendor juice here is my suggestion. Get them some of that good ole China juice from ft, better yet let them buy it. Let em vape that for a while and then let them tell u how much they dislike yours lol. I've bought someone's diy juice once and loved it, that was at the time with simple aspire bvc tanks. Not everyone's flavor profile is the same, but I'll tell that if someone were to offer me some diy for about $20 or less for 120 ml I'd jump on it. However if they're calling u at odd hrs or whatever and being kinda needy when you're trying to help them there comes a line u have to draw. If I could find someone willing to supply me in juice that'd be awesome and I'd gladly pay for good juice. However I wouldn't be a dock about it or get upset that I didn't get it in a timely manner or whatever. Sometimes u just gotta be the bad guy and tell people to figure it out on their own.

 

[Joshua Iles]

And if u really wanna be an ass get them some of that wonderful haus eliquid Walmart sells, guaranteed ass flavor or your money back.

 

[burley]

Is this the line for the roasted chicken vape? I was told there were samples of roasted chicken.

...and can you adjust the sage a little bit? Kinda strong on the inhale. KTHANKS!

 

[Smoky Blue]

Hello VU,
Ive been making juice for about a year now, I started mixing when I moved to Germany for a year of study abroad in college. Over that time I lost my normal love for fruity vendor juices with >5% sweetener and have moved on to love many of HICs, Hucks, and willmcs recipies.
Now im back in America with my old friends and roommates who want to buy juice from me because I can make it so cheap. Although I really have nothing they like, it's all lightly flavored coffee, cream, and some fruity type vapes inspired by the FA recipies Ive learned to love here.
Should I just go out and buy some TFA Sweetener, double up percentages, or tell them I don't want to make any of that sweetened nonsense?

ya cant "wean" folks off juice they buy... if they want to vape your juice, they will.. if not.. like @trlrtrash13 said...