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Fair enough.
I just got this email from Delosi Labs. The site to order from is www.nicbase.com. It's not cheap $76.69 for 1 liter of 100mg and I didn't check the shipping. But, if you're in need of nic you gotta pay the price I guess.
Do you have suggestions for a known good source that ships to NY? Would be my first time buying this way.
As far as I know. The only state VZ that doesn’t ship to is Washington State. I’d give them a call first, just to make sure.
I decided to try VZ once I saw how long you've been active in this and other forums. So I tried to put an order...."We don't ship to your state" under the shipping options.
Have you tried Carolina Xtract? That’s about the only option I know of. They’re very expensive, but is very clean nic.I decided to try VZ once I saw how long you've been active in this and other forums. So I tried to put an order...."We don't ship to your state" under the shipping options.
Where else might I try? This is such a pain in the balls. I would have been prepared but I started vaping such a short time ago. This is surmountable by me....but new guys looking to quit, this is a giant roadblock.
I've only JUST begun this. So I haven't looked into much yet. The one place that said they WOULD ship to me is Delosi. Cheap prices but I think the shipping is in cuckoo land.
On one hand...150 bucks for a liter of 100mg is "expensive". But then....correct me if I got my math wrong....but that should make ~250 60ml bottles at 6mg. About 60 cents of nicotine per bottle. I'm getting a headache.
The issue is shipping to NY.
I'm waiting to hear back from me contacting them. I've had an issue before where that's happened. I also tried to call them. We'll see what happens. So far Delosi is the only one...I may have to try it.
Oh, I remember another vendor. Wizard Labs says call for pricing too.
They answered right away. Thank you friend! They said they do nic orders but only through email.
Made my day!
Dumb noob question....I'm sure I can find this in another thread but I'm really trusting you now! .... Is it better to buy 100mg solution in pg or vg? I'll be storing a liter in the fridge. I'll get bigger once I've tested it. But that's all I need for quite a while by my calculations.
Thanks for your kind words.
I’m a high pg vaper. I always buy pg based nicotine. Easier to work with, and never has hotspots.
Do you think pg would last a couple of years in the fridge?Thanks for your kind words.
To make a 60 ml bottle you’ll be using 3.6 ml of nic base from the 100 mg bottle. So you’ll get exactly 277.7 bottles
It does for me. They say freezing lasts longer. I really don’t know, because PG is a antifreeze. All my years of vaping. I just stored my nic in a dark cool cabinet. Some oxidized faster than others. All depends on how much suspended matter is in the nicotine. As of now I just have 2 liters of mfs 100 mg in the fridge. I just see that lasting for just 2 years. I’ll still get my nic when it’s gone. I snus most of the time. 43 mg Siberia is my favorite.Lol
@Supernoob I have gallons upon gallons in storage in medical grade freezers. I have it down to a science. I purchase like @Jimi D, 100% PG. I always get 100mg, as it seems to be the sweet spot in strength and safety. 100%PG should be the choice unless you are PG sens. As Jimi stated, PG is MUCH easier to work with, and PG based NIC will store better, and quite a bit longer than VG based.
Yes, I chose PG. I only bought a liter so far. My experience was very good. VERY easy to work with. I spoke to someone at the lab for a while. I picked up quite a few tidbids from him. Especially how to store nic once you've cracked open a bottle. Broke the liter down to a 500, 250, 125, and 2 60's. They're PET bottles for this medium storage. No argon, but I'm going to get that for bigger stashes. Foil lined caps. Half inch air at top. Teflon taped. Double bagged.
That's some pro sheeit right there!
The larger the purchase, and your burn rate will dictate everything. It may take you quite a while to burn through that liter, and the whole time you are, especially if you don't break it down into smaller bottles, you will be exposing the entire liter to heat, air, light when opening, mixing/using.
Negative. All we are actually doing by chilling or freezing our NIC, is SLOWING down reactions, and oxidation. Light, heat, and air are the culprits. The more you have of any of them, the faster the oxidation will occur. The lower the temperature, the SLOWER it will occur. It doesn't matter if your freezer only goes down to 32F, as that is FAR better than room temperature.
Yes. NOTHING could be worse, than just purchasing a liter, and using it entirely in the shipping bottle over it's lifetime. You would be exposing your ENTIRE supply of NIC, EVERY time you open the bottle. ALWAYS break down every NIC purchase. Another entirely different, yet related subject it the use of plastic in stronger NIC storage, which should be avoided. Atmosphere can leak in, and some plastics can leach into your NIC, so glass, glass, glass is the way to go.
I strongly disagree with that. LOW TEMP is the key here. The lower you can go, the SLOWER the oxidation will be. I don't know your burn rate, and/or how long that liter will last you, but I am assuming quite a while, and that would be a LONG time for that NIC to oxidize.
Fair point, but I'm looking out for YOUR NIC, just like it was MY NIC. If you can't buy a stand alone, dedicated freezer, do you have space in your existing one ? Not accessible to kids ?? Put your break down bottles into big Ziplock bags for added safety.
Thank you, and that's not even a fraction, but I always use the same method.
Did you have to be home to sign for the package?
That sucks and yes it has happened to more than a few.
Thankfully I have a pretty good sized bottle of salts that I can use for now. I would rather stock up on something now just in case the situation gets any more desperate than it already is for ordering nic.
I'm in NY. And yes I had to sign for it, but any adult can sign. At least that's what the mailman said. The Delosi is legit good. And very helpful with tips too. Not only will they talk with you...you'll probably have to work to get them OFF the phone, lol.
As far as how bad it's going to get...well, you'll be able to get nic, but if the bill gets fully signed, my $76 bottle of 100mg/mL will cost over $3000. That would get signed at the end of the year and go into effect a couple of months later. That puts an end to it.
That’s good to hear. Sounds like Delosi had changed their old nic source.
Sounds like I’ll have to ween down my wife in the future. I’ve already had my Son’s girlfriend quit. My Son is weening down from 16 mg. He’s on 9 mg as of now. I just remove 1 mg every time I make a new bottle of juice. I’ll continue to snus. My wife says snusing is nasty. Lol
You'll laugh at this, but....I really don't even know what snus is, lol. I tried chewing tobacco once, but hated it. Nasty with all the spitting. I know it's not that, just mentioning.
I actually quit smoking switching to Snus. Snus is from Sweden. It’s pasteurized tobacco, salt and flavorings. Very little carcinogens because its not fermented tobacco. You can snus loose or with pouches. I prefer the pouches.
Are there carcinogens in unburned tobacco? Funny you mention this. Because just a moment ago I was contemplating how odd it is that non-vapers can't wrap their head around the fact that vapor isn't smoke. And nicotine doesn't cause cancer, at least there are exactly zero studies showing it does.
Raw tobacco is not cancerous. Yes, its the process of rotting the leaves.
Does snus make you spit? I'd try it if there no spitting. Literally no one I know does snus. Must be a southern thing?
The pouch sits in the upper lip. Snus is sold in Sweden as a food product. We can swallow the juice. I’ve been snusing for 13 years without any problems.