Anyone use WTA (whole tobacco alkaloids) in their mix?

[hazozita]

I've been reading about whole tobacco alkaloids (WTA). Has anyone has tried a WTA juice or used WTA in their mixes? Not many vendors out there carrying it and it is horribly expensive. Still, sort of curious as to how/if it makes a difference. Appreciate any feedback from those who have tried it.

 

[flowerpots]

I have been using WTA for about a year. I've tried both WholeCig and Aroma. It is expensive, but I can vouch that it's worth it. You can mix it with your preferred liquids or you can vape it by itself. I mix mine with my favorite e-juice. It is just more satisfying, and I'm not sure how else to explain it other than that. If you are using a higher mg nicotine liquid and finding that it's just not quite enough, try the WTA. If nothing else, you could easily resell it, as many do use it. You will notice a difference. I've not met anyone yet who did not.

 

[hazozita]

Thanks flowerpots. Of the two vendors you mentioned, would you recommend one over another? Ideally, I'd like to get unflavored and use my own flavorings.

 

[flowerpots]

If you want unflavored, Aroma does not always have that in stock, and his is more expensive than WholeCig. That said, I prefer Aroma's. But, I use both.

 

[flowerpots]

Also, if you want to order from Aroma, specifically the unflavored, after you make your first order, he will send an email (sometimes) when the unflavored is in stock, so you know when to order. But, when it's there get it because it doesn't usually last long.

 

[FL_David]

When I first started researching how to do DIY, I came across whole tobacco alkaloids. The price scared me away at the time and then I forgot about it. I could see this being a "magic" ingredient to get more smokers to switch to vaping.

With over 7 months of vaping under my belt, I'm ok with the price, but now with my 10 level drop in nic level from 18mg, I'm scared of the extra "kick" one might feel with WTA. I will keep WYA's in mind should a fiend need some help moving away from analogs.

 

[Slots]

I have been using WTA for about a year. I mix mine with my favorite e-juice.

Hi Flower, good to see you here,
I have a small (only size you could buy from Aroma) bottle of WTA 24mgVG for DIYing.
What % are you mixing it at when you DIY, .. and are you replacing the regular amount of VG called for in the recipe with the WTA VG
Or, are you just adding a few drops into your finished juice as an added boost.
Then again, how would that work, since I may use 70/30, and you may use 30/70 ??
In other words, how do you know how much to add to your own mix, to get the same results, or % as what's in their premade juice ???
I guess, that since it's 24mg VG, that maybe they assume that everyone vapes mostly 100% VG, like some of their juices,
Anyway ..how do you use it when you DIY

 

[flowerpots]

Hi Flower, good to see you here,
I have a small (only size you could buy from Aroma) bottle of WTA 24mgVG for DIYing.
What % are you mixing it at when you DIY, .. and are you replacing the regular amount of VG called for in the recipe with the WTA VG
Or, are you just adding a few drops into your finished juice as an added boost.
Then again, how would that work, since I may use 70/30, and you may use 30/70 ??
In other words, how do you know how much to add to your own mix, to get the same results, or % as what's in their premade juice ???
I guess, that since it's 24mg VG, that maybe they assume that everyone vapes mostly 100% VG, like some of their juices,
Anyway ..how do you use it when you DIY

Hey Slots,

I have the 24mg Aroma and 25mg Wholecig. I haven't used it in DIY mixes yet. I have only used it in my ADV, which is Ahlusion's Smooth Criminal. I use this in an X-Jet (2ml tank, but you can't fill it up all the way- it fills to about 1.6 mls) or a T3S clearo 2.5 mls full. I add to a 1 drop to the X-Jet or 2 drops to the T3S clearo on top of the Smooth Criminal. I'm not scientific about it all (as you can tell). But, I also have a designated clearo for straight WTA. If I am vaping other mixes, I will occasionally vape on the straight WTA. I really am not into measuring precisely what I use, especially when it comes to VG/PG ratios.

I don't use this calculator, but I think e-juice me up will calculate for 2 separate nicotine additions to a recipe to determine a final %, if you want it to. When I start using exclusive DIY mixes, I will need to do this. You have to be more concerned about your final nicotine concentration than the final VG/PG ratio, at least I think, so that you aren't over-nic'ing yourself.

Which calculator are you using?

 

[Slots]

Hey Slots, I haven't used it in DIY mixes yet. I have only used it in my ADV,
Which calculator are you using?

I use the e-juice me up, and I won't have any problem with that, I just wanted to know "HOW" you used it.
I guess we are both going to be doing some experimenting.
I wrote them when I bought it asking how they recommended using it, and they never got back to me.
So I've just been adding it here and there when I feel the urge.
I'm not worried about creating a recipe from scratch, but I thought if you had, I'd pick your brain.
Thanks for getting back to me.

 

[flowerpots]

I use the e-juice me up, and I won't have any problem with that, I just wanted to know "HOW" you used it.
I guess we are both going to be doing some experimenting.
I wrote them when I bought it asking how they recommended using it, and they never got back to me.
So I've just been adding it here and there when I feel the urge.
I'm not worried about creating a recipe from scratch, but I thought if you had, I'd pick your brain.
Thanks for getting back to me.

You're welcome.

I don't know if this helps or not, but when I do add it into a DIY mix I make, when I finally come up with an ADV or find someone else's recipe that becomes an ADV, I will probably be aiming for the same final 18mg I vape now. I have thought about this and how much WTA I want to be in any given mix. My guess is, in order to be effective, it will have to comprise 1/3 of my nicotine added to the mix. So I will basically use 2/3 regular nicotine and 1/3 WTA. I don't know where I get 1/3 from. Part of that is based on me not wanting to spend so much on WTA. Of course, if I do this, and it doesn't work for me, I will adjust.

 

[joey55]

I've used both Aroma's and Wholecig's I also tried Mothers milk, which is now my go to ADV. Everyone I've given to to try has been amazed at it.
BTW I use it mostly unflavored straight, occasionally with a drop or two of Mr. E-Liquids Grey Matter