Best rta for a flavor/cloud chaser?

[Ogvapez]

Sounds like wicking then. You want that cotton just barely inside the ring, I'll even stuff then pull it out until its just barely staying inside. Also, 3mm ID if possible, some thick wire that doesn't work on the 22mm but it's ideal. And, while I don't have the 25mm it's basically the same thing just with a bigger tank surrounding the 25mm, all the important stuff is the same, I think they increased the chamber on the 25mm by 1mm but the deck is identical.

I got single 3mm ID kanthan A1 .75 wicked just like you said if I go past 65Watt pulled it burns. It's not the wicking trust me. What I'm trying to say is the Griffin can't handle Vaping it like the Boreas,Alleria, crown,Ect. That's what I'm getting at. Griffin you have to do this you have to do that and I still can't get the type of Vape I can get off other Attys. That's all.

 

[advancedvapesupply]

I got single 3mm ID kanthan A1 .75 wicked just like you said if I go past 65Watt pulled it burns. It's not the wicking trust me. What I'm trying to say is the Griffin can't handle Vaping it like the Boreas,Alleria, crown,Ect. That's what I'm getting at. Griffin you have to do this you have to do that and I still can't get the type of Vape I can get off other Attys. That's all.

.75ohm??

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[Ogvapez]

Yup

.75ohm??

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[advancedvapesupply]

Yup

Theres your problem man... .75 is really, really high to try to run at that wattage

 

[Ogvapez]

The Griffin juice flow can't keep up with it that's my example .75 I can throw that in my Boreas and I can Vape the hell out of it that's what I'm getting at. So which one is more user friendly simpler to use, at the end of the day. We can agree to disagree just my .02 cents.

 

[advancedvapesupply]

The Griffin juice flow can't keep up with it that's my example .75 I can throw that in my Boreas and I can Vape the hell out of it that's what I'm getting at. So which one is more user friendly simpler to use, at the end of the day. We can agree to disagree just my .02 cents.

The boreas is also far more airflow and direct, so it's possible it's helping to keep it from overheating. I personally wouldn't vape that high a resistance at that high a wattage, but if it's working for you on the boreas , go for it! To each his own

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[JERUS]

The Griffin juice flow can't keep up with it that's my example .75 I can throw that in my Boreas and I can Vape the hell out of it that's what I'm getting at. So which one is more user friendly simpler to use, at the end of the day. We can agree to disagree just my .02 cents.

I get what you're point is now, and yeah, the Boreas is far more "carefree" in it's use, doesn't take as precise of management and can handle a lot more strain. I haven't had a bad vape out of basically anything I've put in the Boreas, can't say that for much else. That said I have a ~.45Ω coil in my Griffin and set up on a series mech so about 110w or so, works like a dream. I initially replicated the Avocado build I had but on the Griffin (both on my series mechs) but it just couldn't keep up with the wicking.

 

[advancedvapesupply]

I get what you're point is now, and yeah, the Boreas is far more "carefree" in it's use, doesn't take as precise of management and can handle a lot more strain. I haven't had a bad vape out of basically anything I've put in the Boreas, can't say that for much else. That said I have a ~.45Ω coil in my Griffin and set up on a series mech so about 110w or so, works like a dream. I initially replicated the Avocado build I had but on the Griffin (both on my series mechs) but it just couldn't keep up with the wicking.

You got faster wicking from the avocado?

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[JERUS]

You got faster wicking from the avocado?

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Well, I can get 2-3 good hits then I just flip it and let a few bubbles pop up then I'm good to go on the Avocado. The Griffin I just have to wait, and they weren't the exact same build, I had to take one wrap off to fit in the Griffin what I had in the Avocado, so from high .30Ωs to mid .30Ωs which is a decent increase in wattage. So, yes, no, kinda, it's weird. Anyways, just went from 27g FCs to 28g FCs and now my Griffin is rocking

 

[Stepinrazor]

I vote for the Boreas, forget being the best RTA it even beats a lot of RDA's on flavour and clouds.

Functions as a tank but Vapes like a dripper. Excellent build quality, the option of 2 build decks is genius allowing you to cater for thicker VG juice, very easy to build, simple to use and no dry burns ever. On half airflow/juice flow it hits just right, the tank never gets hot and it looks good to boot.

Can't say enough good things about it, it's effectively an upgrade from other RTA's and it's a viable alternative to an RDA. The same can't be said of the Griffin, Supreme or Moonshot which are a definite upgrade from a Subohm tank experience and from the first generation RTA's but from a dripper' perspective don't cut the mustard especially where thicker e-juice is concerned.

I haven't tried the Limitless, it's form factor and build quality don't appeal to me. Love the look of the Avocado and the Theorem but they are effectively second generation gennies which is cool if you are purely a flavour chaser. However I like to feel the hit of my vape, which the Boreas delivers in bucket loads.

 

[Cagey75]

Avocado 24mm. Boreas is old, move on

 

[JERUS]

I vote for the Boreas, forget being the best RTA it even beats a lot of RDA's on flavour and clouds.

Functions as a tank but Vapes like a dripper. Excellent build quality, the option of 2 build decks is genius allowing you to cater for thicker VG juice, very easy to build, simple to use and no dry burns ever. On half airflow/juice flow it hits just right, the tank never gets hot and it looks good to boot.

Can't say enough good things about it, it's effectively an upgrade from other RTA's and it's a viable alternative to an RDA. The same can't be said of the Griffin, Supreme or Moonshot which are a definite upgrade from a Subohm tank experience and from the first generation RTA's but from a dripper' perspective don't cut the mustard especially where thicker e-juice is concerned.

I haven't tried the Limitless, it's form factor and build quality don't appeal to me. Love the look of the Avocado and the Theorem but they are effectively second generation gennies which is cool if you are purely a flavour chaser. However I like to feel the hit of my vape, which the Boreas delivers in bucket loads.

You'd be surprised what an Avocado can do, love it on my series mech, vapes not much different than my Boreas (Boreas .08Ω & .15Ω builds on a parallel mech, and Avocado is a .38Ω build on a series mech) Not saying you need one if you have the Boreas, but my Avocado I do rank in as better on everything except the convenience factor (not by much though).

 

[ej1024]

Avocado 24mm. Boreas is old, move on

Hahaha
Can't compare those 2


VAPE ON

 

[Stepinrazor]

You'd be surprised what an Avocado can do, love it on my series mech, vapes not much different than my Boreas (Boreas .08Ω & .15Ω builds on a parallel mech, and Avocado is a .38Ω build on a series mech) Not saying you need one if you have the Boreas, but my Avocado I do rank in as better on everything except the convenience factor (not by much though).

Your feedback has piqued my interest in the Avocado, so it gives a hard hit like an RDA?

 

[JERUS]

Your feedback has piqued my interest in the Avocado, so it gives a hard hit like an RDA?

Trying to say it as concisely as I can.

It's different. However you can just drip right onto it and then it's near identical. Basically what you have is a 22mm velocity RDA, the difference is instead of a large juice well you have a full on tank underneath with holes to shove some wick through. So the difference is the wicking. Strait up these Genesis style tanks don't wick juice as quickly/smoothly. Similar builds in the Avocado and the Petri I can get a good 15+ pulls out of the petri before it starts to run dry. With the Avocado I'll get probably 3-6 before I want to flip it upside down and let the juice penetrate those wicks a bit (just watch some bubbles pop up, when they stop I flip it back over). When in regular use on the Avocado it's similar to the 4th-5th hit of my Petri, still packed flavor but IMO the best hits off my RDAs are the 2-4th, when it's not overly juice coils like when freshly dripped, but it's a very saturated wick. After that is still good, but I describe this in an attempt to explain that it's not quite on the level of an RDA IMO, but a hell of a lot less hassle.

It's the closest thing I've come to a dripper experience without dripping. Yes that includes the Boreas (which I love, but I'm not fanatical about). What I like to do though is drip on my Avocado now and then, when I get a pull that's just not right I'll pop the top off and drip on it, and then those next couple hits are just pure joy. It's just when you rely on that tank at the bottom that the wick doesn't get that high level of saturation that I associate with an RDA.

As far as how hard of a hit, that's just the build, but yes, my Avocado is one of my harder hitting setups I'm rocking right now. .38Ω coil at ~130w (series mech) is a hell of a lot of heat, that wick dries up fast.

 

[JERUS]

I hope I'm not gettin everybody's parade all wet but there is no such thing as a "best flavor/clouds" tank.

Flavor and vapor are inversely proportional. As one goes up, the other comes down.
You want clouds, run 175 watts through yer quad coil .02 ohm explodo deck tank.
...but you'll get comparatively little flavor.

Flavor is much more pronounced in more conservative builds and power settings.
The object is to strike a balance.

Prioritize your needs. Flavor is for you to enjoy. Clouds are to impress others.

I just can't agree with this. I actually wish I could get the clouds downplayed (but still feel fulfilled as far as my lungs go) but I find my best flavor production typically comes with quite a bit of vapor production as well. I will say that in the search for clouds it's easy to overheat things and ruin the flavor, but I wouldn't say there is a set rule comparing cloud production to flavor.

 

[AmandaD]

I hope I'm not gettin everybody's parade all wet but there is no such thing as a "best flavor/clouds" tank.

Flavor and vapor are inversely proportional. As one goes up, the other comes down.
You want clouds, run 175 watts through yer quad coil .02 ohm explodo deck tank.
...but you'll get comparatively little flavor.

Flavor is much more pronounced in more conservative builds and power settings.
The object is to strike a balance.

Prioritize your needs. Flavor is for you to enjoy. Clouds are to impress others.

Actually, I can't agree - Sometimes they do go together, and with some juice the flavor really comes out at high wattage that just happens to produce clouds

 

[advancedvapesupply]

I hope I'm not gettin everybody's parade all wet but there is no such thing as a "best flavor/clouds" tank.

Flavor and vapor are inversely proportional. As one goes up, the other comes down.
You want clouds, run 175 watts through yer quad coil .02 ohm explodo deck tank.
...but you'll get comparatively little flavor.

Flavor is much more pronounced in more conservative builds and power settings.
The object is to strike a balance.

Prioritize your needs. Flavor is for you to enjoy. Clouds are to impress others.

I disagree with this as well. They're not strictly inversely proportional, only when you get to either extreme of the device spectrum. But for me, excellent flavor requires lots of density in general. Which can come in all sorts of packages but is fairly linked to cloud production. That said, I've definitely used tanks whose goal was definitely clouds and the flavor was terrible. But it's not at all impossible to have both. Some of my most room- fogging builds have also been some of my best tasting

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[advancedvapesupply]

You're deluding yourselves.
The Clouds brah crowd may not wanna admit it but flavor chasers and yous are 2 entirely different groups.

I'm not judging y'all. Nor am I here to justify your desire to impress others wit yer big clouuds.
But there is no single device that does both better than devices designed to do one or the other.

Now if you'll excuse me, I hafta prepare my Ferrari for the Baja 1000.

I couldn't care less about clouds, I'm flavor all the way. But I have yet to try a build that gives better flavor than my builds that happen to also give big clouds

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[r055co]

Boreas, great flavor and good cloud production

Modfather, great cloud production and good flavor

They are my two favorite Tanks

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