Hey guys, I'm trying to make High VG liquids that can be pushed to 40watts and above without burning and such. It really is a factor as I've had some liquids that can be pushed on up there while still being delicious (even if the heat transforms the flavor profile somewhat, or maybe the liquid is indeed designed by high watt vapers) and then I've had liquids that burn to a crisp or taste funny.
My first question, does anyone know which brands of flavorings stand up to that heat, and which percentage of flavoring as a whole keeps things smooth as well?
Secondly, I'm very sensitive to how, in my opinion, both PG and VG naturally have a soggy, hollow, wet-dog type of taste in a way, like drinking lukewarm warm water. I like my water either cold or piping hot. I do not like lukewarm water. Nor do I really like the taste of heated PG and VG, and I've had high quality stuff. I'm just one of those folks who can truly taste so many subtles even in water.
So when I mix, I've found that so many flavors taste so dead, hollow, and soggy no matter what the percentage is, if mixed as a simple recipe. %10 Blueberry in High VG? Yeah right. More like Dogberry.
I've found that all sorts of creams don't typically solve the issue, and that creams are extremely delicate in percentages when it comes to finding a recipe that can taste great on both SubOhm tanks and drippers.
So I also want to ask: What in the world might just be the absolute best "Sweet Cream" or "Sugar" base to really get virtually any flavor to have a fluffy, "there", and solid backdrop that neither tastes sucralosey nor burns, but overcomes that "wet dog" hollowness that most flavorings alone just don't seem to fill?
Like, my idea of a "Blueberry" flavor, in terms of SubOhm, is a Blueberry flavor that is beefed up (or even creamed out) by a good percentage of fluffiness that borders on a truly sweet cream. (Not no sour cheese fresh cream bull mess.) PG and VG doesn't have this chatacteristic alone, it just doesn't.
So what is the secret to this? Any juice line worth a grain of salt (Charlie Noble, Clouds of Goodness, and even several local brews I try) have discovered this secret where as, for example, many don't and the ingredients taste sour, flat, and wet (The Grind, White Lightning, heck even Johnson Creek) or oppositely, a little too stark or burny (Artist Collection, Ripe Vapes, Five Pawns)
So what gives? Does anyone want to blow the whistle on this one? What backdrop really keeps things fluffy, neutrally sweet (maybe a tad pointing toward fluffy sweet cream), and most of all, both fluffy in a bodied, neutrally dry way, without pushing the texture to too-crisp, hot, or burny. Thank you!
My first question, does anyone know which brands of flavorings stand up to that heat, and which percentage of flavoring as a whole keeps things smooth as well?
Secondly, I'm very sensitive to how, in my opinion, both PG and VG naturally have a soggy, hollow, wet-dog type of taste in a way, like drinking lukewarm warm water. I like my water either cold or piping hot. I do not like lukewarm water. Nor do I really like the taste of heated PG and VG, and I've had high quality stuff. I'm just one of those folks who can truly taste so many subtles even in water.
So when I mix, I've found that so many flavors taste so dead, hollow, and soggy no matter what the percentage is, if mixed as a simple recipe. %10 Blueberry in High VG? Yeah right. More like Dogberry.
I've found that all sorts of creams don't typically solve the issue, and that creams are extremely delicate in percentages when it comes to finding a recipe that can taste great on both SubOhm tanks and drippers.
So I also want to ask: What in the world might just be the absolute best "Sweet Cream" or "Sugar" base to really get virtually any flavor to have a fluffy, "there", and solid backdrop that neither tastes sucralosey nor burns, but overcomes that "wet dog" hollowness that most flavorings alone just don't seem to fill?
Like, my idea of a "Blueberry" flavor, in terms of SubOhm, is a Blueberry flavor that is beefed up (or even creamed out) by a good percentage of fluffiness that borders on a truly sweet cream. (Not no sour cheese fresh cream bull mess.) PG and VG doesn't have this chatacteristic alone, it just doesn't.
So what is the secret to this? Any juice line worth a grain of salt (Charlie Noble, Clouds of Goodness, and even several local brews I try) have discovered this secret where as, for example, many don't and the ingredients taste sour, flat, and wet (The Grind, White Lightning, heck even Johnson Creek) or oppositely, a little too stark or burny (Artist Collection, Ripe Vapes, Five Pawns)
So what gives? Does anyone want to blow the whistle on this one? What backdrop really keeps things fluffy, neutrally sweet (maybe a tad pointing toward fluffy sweet cream), and most of all, both fluffy in a bodied, neutrally dry way, without pushing the texture to too-crisp, hot, or burny. Thank you!
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