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[f1r3b1rd]

I agree. I may change my custom order to dna200 if there isn't an update to the 350j. I dont get the new battery deal with them. Can you explain ? How do you charge them.

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Its onboard balance charging board, just like any other mod with a built in charger.
It comes standard with an 1100 Mah lipo. They offer a dual 18650 expansion which will automatically turn it into a 133w mod but you can swap out dual 18650s. They are also going to do a 1300 Mah lipo expansion as well so that you can use a 1300 Mah in 200w mode.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

My plan is to get eventually get a yihi cm but im not about to shell out 200$ on a mod that wont use the wire I want. When yihi gets there shit straight then ill decide, until then I love the Ss im TC more than I enjoy kanthal. It's not the software side for me, so much as the ease of use and vape quality of TC with stainless steel.
Either way, that damn board hasn't even been out for 12months....
Off my soapbox before i look douchebagish

 

[Powerman]

I hear ya man. I've never been a fan of evolve. My issue is that my custom mod us about to go into production and I was all set to go 350j but since I placed my order I have discovered ss vaping and love it. So instead of having two high end mods one would be the preferred situation. If I can't get the 350j upgraded then the DNA looks to be a good solution. Guess I need to sleep on it

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Ya, I went round and round with it too. It's certainly not like I "need" it. I am usually not into early adopting. But the Crown has been a huge step forward. And I am not totally sold on TC. But the SS coil is so good. I have to see how good it can be with complete power regulation. So I'll find out. Right now the 200 is the most complete package. And probably down the road, I'll get a 350j v2/3 single mini to replace the D2. But for now, I can't wait to get my hands on my 200.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

I totally agree with both @f1r3b1rd & @Powerman. I had my 350J for about 5 months before it got destroyed. It was the best vape I ever experienced. When I could no longer vape it, I ordered a custom dual box mod with the 350j board. My only bitch with the 350j was the single battery just didnt do it for me and I hate carrying multiple batteries around all the time. So I ordered the custom box knowing the lead time would be long based on what I wanted. Well so for the past month or so, I have been watching the DNA200 and kept saying to myself ehhhh who needs all that shit, the 350j is all I need. Well fuck me I experienced the crown tank and the SS coils. My mind is blown away with the incredible performance these have. Better than any Kanthal, Nickle or Ti vape ever. So I got to thinking what if you could get TC with SS...... Bamm the 350J V2 is coming out but probably not in time for the production of my custom job that starts next week. So that leaves me with a really expensive 350j board that has only been out less than a year. It most likely wont be upgradable because if it was there would not be a V2 of the board. So now I am rethinking the DNA200. I am sure I wont need all of the perks that it has to offer but again having them if I want is priceless vs not having them at all...... I have not heard of the issues that were present with the DNA40's and others so I feel confident that this is a sound board but I am still leery of making the switch.

 

[Mattp169]

I totally agree with both @f1r3b1rd & @Powerman. I had my 350J for about 5 months before it got destroyed. It was the best vape I ever experienced. When I could no longer vape it, I ordered a custom dual box mod with the 350j board. My only bitch with the 350j was the single battery just didnt do it for me and I hate carrying multiple batteries around all the time. So I ordered the custom box knowing the lead time would be long based on what I wanted. Well so for the past month or so, I have been watching the DNA200 and kept saying to myself ehhhh who needs all that shit, the 350j is all I need. Well fuck me I experienced the crown tank and the SS coils. My mind is blown away with the incredible performance these have. Better than any Kanthal, Nickle or Ti vape ever. So I got to thinking what if you could get TC with SS...... Bamm the 350J V2 is coming out but probably not in time for the production of my custom job that starts next week. So that leaves me with a really expensive 350j board that has only been out less than a year. It most likely wont be upgradable because if it was there would not be a V2 of the board. So now I am rethinking the DNA200. I am sure I wont need all of the perks that it has to offer but again having them if I want is priceless vs not having them at all...... I have not heard of the issues that were present with the DNA40's and others so I feel confident that this is a sound board but I am still leery of making the switch.

well lets add to the confusion...

what if and its a big if ......but lets say when the 350j V2 comes out it blows the dna200 away. now you still cant get it in a custom mod. but a month or 2 later they release a comparable board for custom mods. yihi did one up evolve after the dna40, so they MIGHT be able to do it again.

in the mean time, if you absolutely need ss tc... there's the x cube 2

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I totally agree with both @f1r3b1rd & @Powerman. I had my 350J for about 5 months before it got destroyed. It was the best vape I ever experienced. When I could no longer vape it, I ordered a custom dual box mod with the 350j board. My only bitch with the 350j was the single battery just didnt do it for me and I hate carrying multiple batteries around all the time. So I ordered the custom box knowing the lead time would be long based on what I wanted. Well so for the past month or so, I have been watching the DNA200 and kept saying to myself ehhhh who needs all that shit, the 350j is all I need. Well fuck me I experienced the crown tank and the SS coils. My mind is blown away with the incredible performance these have. Better than any Kanthal, Nickle or Ti vape ever. So I got to thinking what if you could get TC with SS...... Bamm the 350J V2 is coming out but probably not in time for the production of my custom job that starts next week. So that leaves me with a really expensive 350j board that has only been out less than a year. It most likely wont be upgradable because if it was there would not be a V2 of the board. So now I am rethinking the DNA200. I am sure I wont need all of the perks that it has to offer but again having them if I want is priceless vs not having them at all...... I have not heard of the issues that were present with the DNA40's and others so I feel confident that this is a sound board but I am still leery of making the switch.

Trying to keep up with the tech is murder. The real upside with the DNA is being able To plug in the tcr for any wire. I'm assuming the v2 will have that, the next step though is a dual series mod with the board.
Fuck it let's just get an assholio!

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Fuck it let's just get an assholio!

I'm not saying it's better than a DNA200 or SX350 but I have an Asolo. It's really not a bad little mod (smallest dual 18650 mod I've ever used). It has problems just like every mod I've ever had. Believe it or not, it really does prevent dry hits on Kanthal. Not sure how much TC it does (on Kanthal), but it does stop when the tank is empty. I actually like it more than I thought I would.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit I bought it when it was a hair under $75 shipped. For that price, I can't complain

 

[Hank F. Spankman]

well lets add to the confusion...

what if and its a big if ......but lets say when the 350j V2 comes out it blows the dna200 away. now you still cant get it in a custom mod. but a month or 2 later they release a comparable board for custom mods. yihi did one up evolve after the dna40, so they MIGHT be able to do it again.

in the mean time, if you absolutely need ss tc... there's the x cube 2

Tell me about your experience with the x cube2


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[Mattp169]

Tell me about your experience with the x cube2


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ffs hank you know i dont have one, and am basing what i am saying off what others say, give it a rest

 

[Powerman]

The idea of the Whiteout is great, it's just too big for me. Same thing with cell phones. I always pocket carry. Got a S5, and had to switch to cargo pants. Sure the screen rocks, but it's no pocket carry. So far my boxes have been the smallest I can get. One 18650 is fine with me, but that just isn't where stuff is today. I'm stuck with a desktop model if I want latest greatest. In time, there will be smaller ones available. But right now, a Militia mini is as good as it gets.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Wow these are all great points and worthy of serious consideration. I believe in the end it will be YiHi and Evolve as the top dogs duking it out in a gravel pit. They will each one up the other as the newest and latest are released to the public. I dont think that anyone can say either is better than the other. It more of a personal preference to the features and or lack their of as compared to the others.
We always want the latest and greatest but when you are dealing with the BMW's and Benzes of the vaping world these do come at a price and at some point we have to say ok my driveway is full but I can always fit my chevys and fords along the side road.
In translation, spending the 200+ per mod is not bad but when you are doing it 3 times a year because the competition just uped the other is nuts. Maybe it is ok to have a couple of the higher end ones (Yihi and Evolve). Then as many of the lower end mods as you want as your beater mods. I dont know what the answer is but I am getting tired of buying a new mod only to find out that the reason I purchased it and felt safe because it was up-datable is now complete fucking bullshit.....
These board or mod manufactures get our business because they sell us on the ability to update our new purchase in the future only to find out we need to buy a new board / mod if we want the latest and greatest....

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Wow these are all great points and worthy of serious consideration. I believe in the end it will be YiHi and Evolve as the top dogs duking it out in a gravel pit. They will each one up the other as the newest and latest are released to the public. I dont think that anyone can say either is better than the other. It more of a personal preference to the features and or lack their of as compared to the others.
We always want the latest and greatest but when you are dealing with the BMW's and Benzes of the vaping world these do come at a price and at some point we have to say ok my driveway is full but I can always fit my chevys and fords along the side road.
In translation, spending the 200+ per mod is not bad but when you are doing it 3 times a year because the competition just uped the other is nuts. Maybe it is ok to have a couple of the higher end ones (Yihi and Evolve). Then as many of the lower end mods as you want as your beater mods. I dont know what the answer is but I am getting tired of buying a new mod only to find out that the reason I purchased it and felt safe because it was up-datable is now complete fucking bullshit.....
These board or mod manufactures get our business because they sell us on the ability to update our new purchase in the future only to find out we need to buy a new board / mod if we want the latest and greatest....

Agreed! That's why I opted for the whiteout, and a vsdna200.
Granted the latter was a gamble but I know the brand all to well and did my homework on the board, its 200w that fits in my shirt pocket and the 2a charger makes getting the day out of it doable at 60w with 115w preheat, the whiteout mod(s) I figure i'll get one for evolve and one for DNA and just swap boards, yeah they look big, but I would rather 70-80$ to update the board over 200$+ for a new mod every time evolv and yihi feel the need to compare dicks

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Agreed! That's why I opted for the whiteout, and a vsdna200.
Granted the latter was a gamble but I know the brand all to well and did my homework on the board, its 200w that fits in my shirt pocket and the 2a charger makes getting the day out of it doable at 60w with 115w preheat, the whiteout mod(s) I figure i'll get one for evolve and one for DNA and just swap boards, yeah they look big, but I would rather 70-80$ to update the board over 200$+ for a new mod every time evolv and yihi feel the need to compare dicks

Thats a great approach. dropping 70 -80 is much easier to swallow than 200 ++. I looked at the whiteout as well. They look like a nice setup for sure.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thats a great approach. dropping 70 -80 is much easier to swallow than 200 ++. I looked at the whiteout as well. They look like a nice setup for sure.

We shall see, like @Powerman said they look big, but, I'm hoping that's just camera angle. the sig150 looks big until you see it in real life. Its not exactly small but looks much bigger online than jt really is. If the whiteout is the same size i'll be happy with it, for most needs and revert to something else when pocket carry is needed,

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I've looked at the Whiteout as well. I wonder if you get say the DNA version. Will you be able to get the SX module and plug it into the DNA version? I figure at some point the chip or screen of the newer chips will be too big to fit. I'm going to first see how much I like the DNA200 in the Hotcig I have ordered before deciding if I really want to break the bank.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I've looked at the Whiteout as well. I wonder if you get say the DNA version. Will you be able to get the SX module and plug it into the DNA version? I figure at some point the chip or screen of the newer chips will be too big to fit. I'm going to first see how much I like the DNA200 chip in the hotcig I have ordered before deciding if I really want to break the bank.

Cheers,
Steve

Yes you can swap among the chips. Im unsure if you need the dual battery expansion to go from DNA to Sx.
But ill probably get both the 1300mah and dual 18650 expansion anyway.
They also have their own chip being released which will be open source and the nerd in me wants that too

 

[Mattp169]

Agreed! That's why I opted for the whiteout, and a vsdna200.
Granted the latter was a gamble but I know the brand all to well and did my homework on the board, its 200w that fits in my shirt pocket and the 2a charger makes getting the day out of it doable at 60w with 115w preheat, the whiteout mod(s) I figure i'll get one for evolve and one for DNA and just swap boards, yeah they look big, but I would rather 70-80$ to update the board over 200$+ for a new mod every time evolv and yihi feel the need to compare dicks

i agree its getting old with the having to buy a new mod every few months to have it all. And you may not even need it all but its nice to know if you like it or not. I didnt know if Id like tc or a 18650 mod, but for $55 with a battery the d2 was perfect for me to try both out. But its not updateable...well guess what? most of these boards you can update NEVER GET AN UPDATE or the update you want. Updateability is a marketing ploy.

Did evolve get it right for those of us who feel this way???? MAYBE. Im not a fan of the lipo battery which is prevalent on these, mainly because i just invested in 18650s. Will the actual hardware they have on these boards be able to handle the next big idea that comes around in a few months(if there is one, which there may or may not be).

SO the idea of the whiteout seems promising because its upgradeable.......but as I pointed out in the past...is it really? What if the next series of boards cant fit in the box, what if 26650s are the way to go, what if??????? I really had issues with their initial "FUTURE PROOF" claim. Now im not discounting the entire modular design they are using, its a great idea, but to buy the whiteout hoping you will only have to replace boards down the road is a pipe dream imho. Things change too much and too quickly.

Every regulated mod is disposable. regardless of it is a $30 or $300 mod. Even if you have one 3 years from the date you bought it, things can go wrong on it and its not like there is a service center on every corner to get them repaired, and cost may be prohibitive on a repair..

many of us are hooked on this upgradability thing. It sound so great and its something we would all probably love, but its not ever going to be real.
My opinion...find a mod t hat does what you want. do your research to make sure, and if you think the price is worth it...buy it. Otherwise wait a little while, what you want may become available sooner rather then later and at a price you can live with

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Well, im willing to take a chance on the pipedream after dropping 200 each for a bunch of dna40s, then a pair of sxmini m classes.
If It works great I won, if it doesn't I pissed away the same amount of money on taking a chance.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Well, im willing to take a chance on the pipedream after dropping 200 each for a bunch of dna40s, then a pair of sxmini m classes.
If It works great I won, if it doesn't I pissed away the same amount of money on taking a chance.

Risk vs Reward. That's the same reason I bought the Hotcig DNA200 yesterday. I figured for a touch over $100 the risk was worth the possible reward.

 

[Mattp169]

Well, im willing to take a chance on the pipedream after dropping 200 each for a bunch of dna40s, then a pair of sxmini m classes.
If It works great I won, if it doesn't I pissed away the same amount of money on taking a chance.

hey more power too you. based on your income $200 is worth it to you. For me and my income...$200 is way too much. Id rather take a chance on a $40-60 mod. To each their own. my point was upgradability will probably never truly happen, so dont buy something based on that

the whiteout may be upgradable for years to come at reasonable prices. but even if its not... if you get the dna200 and it dont work out the way you hoped and you wish you would have gotten the yihi board or they get a new yihi board that blows away the dna200, like you pointed out its relatively cheap to buy the other parts and swap it out. Hell you may even be able to resell the parts you no longer want and make it even more affordable.
But I doubt there will be too many options down the road for the current whiteout, just becuase technology changes too much too quickly. There are 3 whiteout options now, I would not be surprised that by the time they have to come out with a whiteout 2 to keep up with current boards and batteries and connectors or whatever, that there will be 6-8 different whiteout 1 versions you could build.which is still awesome in its own right but im just guessing. there may never be a need for a whiteout 2. it may be THE MOD for the next 10 years. Or it could never get another new thing to it beyond what is available now

so too each their own on it. if you want it and find the price acceptable BUY IT, Im am just extremely skeptical that we will ever have a mod that is upgrabel for a long time frame.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I guess the bottom line is some of us are tech geaks along with the vapors. with the tech evolving the way it is, some of us are willing to give them a shot and i like to be in line to try it. With the last three flagship boards put out(dna40, sxm,dna200) I had first run versions of. I happen to enjoy being one of those tester type people. I even tried with the asolo, but the company pissed me off not the mod.

If I can take the shot to possibly test drive the tech at less than half the price of a mod, or without building a mod then im more than happy to take that chance, even if saving that money means waiting for an expansion board or whatever peripheral may be needed.
And like I said, if its not upgradeable, which like you said is possible, perhaps probable, I spent the same as I would have on something that isn't. When I smoked I was spending 10-12$ a day on cigarettes, considering I DIY, 200$ mod is still cheaper. 125-150 to build a mod is cheaper still.

 

[Powerman]

We shall see, like @Powerman said they look big, but, I'm hoping that's just camera angle. the sig150 looks big until you see it in real life. Its not exactly small but looks much bigger online than jt really is. If the whiteout is the same size i'll be happy with it, for most needs and revert to something else when pocket carry is needed,

Ya, and that isn't good or bad, it's just a personal preference for me. Connectors alone need space. And most out there are already running dual stuff. So it's just a quirk for me. The overall package is a great idea and they will sell lots for sure.

The OS is down the road. First they have to get it out, then people have to start programming it. Could be my next mod in a year or two. Another great idea in the works, but not for today.

I understand the advantages of lipo, but if iIdon't need huge current draw, then capacity suits me better. Right now, 18650s can handle the job and have more capacity. For now. It isn't a reason for me not to do it, but it isn't exactly ideal for a lot of folks. The 1300s should be minimum. The 900s are a waste of time IMHO. The 1300s just give me a bump from what I am used to... A single LG HG2. It's a step down for a lot capacity wise.

Faster charging is a must. That will be done. The 1A is better, but the 2A rocks.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Ya, and that isn't good or bad, it's just a personal preference for me. Connectors alone need space. And most out there are already running dual stuff. So it's just a quirk for me. The overall package is a great idea and they will sell lots for sure.

The OS is down the road. First they have to get it out, then people have to start programming it. Could be my next mod in a year or two. Another great idea in the works, but not for today.

I understand the advantages of lipo, but if iIdon't need huge current draw, then capacity suits me better. Right now, 18650s can handle the job and have more capacity. For now. It isn't a reason for me not to do it, but it isn't exactly ideal for a lot of folks. The 1300s should be minimum. The 900s are a waste of time IMHO. The 1300s just give me a bump from what I am used to... A single LG HG2. It's a step down for a lot capacity wise.

Faster charging is a must. That will be done. The 1A is better, but the 2A rocks.

From what I've seen the 900 without a 2a is about useless. With the 2a it's doable for me. That out there, the only time I've used dual 18650s is with a hexohm which gets me a day and then some. But you lose the screen and all.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

So basically the 900 with 2A is ok or at least workable, but its better to go 1300 or above?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

The Lipo 3S pack is 3 batteries in series, so the xxx mah is deceiving since the voltage is 11.1. A 900mah Lipo 3S would be approximately the same as a single 18650 with 2700 mah. With 2 amp charging, it tops up quite quickly from what I read. Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[f1r3b1rd]

It takes 1hr and 15 minutes to go from totally dead to fully charged. if I pop it on in traffic and pass through vape I have a full charge after work.
But yes a1300 gets you more capacity but a larger form factor. Which, without a 2a charger I'm not sure if it would run as an all day mod at 60w in tc, that seems to be the ideal setting for a dual coil ss build, at least for me, kinda feels like Kanthal at 80w

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Gotcha now. So it appears that the key aside from the mah is the 2A charging vs 1A charging

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Something like that, and I speak from my own experience, mileage may vary, lol

I think that I would need 1800 man to get one of these to run all day where I like it. or since I rarely use 150w or more (even preheat) dual 18650 would service my needs just fine, and at that point I dont really give a doodoo face.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Gotcha now. So it appears that the key aside from the mah is the 2A charging vs 1A charging

Yes sir. Iirc Firebird has a portable power supply that allows/supports 2 amp. charging. Twice as fast as 1 amp, 4 times quicker than a lot of .5 amp USB wall bricks we have from our old phones.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit I see we were typing at the same time. Either my typing skills need to improve or I need a secretary

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Yes sir. Iirc Firebird has a portable power supply that allows/supports 2 amp. charging. Twice as fast as 1 amp, 4 times quicker than a lot of .5 amp USB wall bricks we have for our old phones.

Roger Roger !!!! Its a dual 2.1 and 2.4 USB backup power supply. use my old surface charger at home, most tablet chargers are 2a
This is my backup battery -fully charges my surface, lumia phone and the shark with power to spare.


amazon.com/Powerful-Portable-RAVPower-Technology-Lightning/dp/B00MQSMEEE

 

[TheVapingDevil]

With my vaping the crown dual SS coils at 65 watts most of the day, I am sure I would need some way to recharge during the day, a higher Mah or the ability to charge with 2A
Thanks again you two for your very useful comments.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

With my vaping the crown dual SS coils at 65 watts most of the day, I am sure I would need some way to recharge during the day, a higher Mah or the ability to charge with 2A
Thanks again you two for your very useful comments.

Roger that dude, that portable backup battery thingy has been with me since last hurricane season. We lost power for a fee days and if it weren't for that I would have been totally screwed.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I still have a couple of old MVP's I keep charged that I can use for charging during power failures. I also have a USB charger in my car for dire emergencies. I do want to get something like you have though for the sheer speed.

 

[Powerman]

The Lipo 3S pack is 3 batteries in series, so the xxx mah is deceiving since the voltage is 11.1. A 900mah Lipo 3S would be approximately the same as a single 18650 with 2700 mah. With 2 amp charging, it tops up quite quickly from what I read. Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Steve

Yes, I understand the capacity. 2700 mah for the 900s. But that is a single 18650. Most have already graduated to duals. I have 2900 out of my LG. Running more power on my D2 that gets me to lunch or a 10 day depending. And running TC is worse because it can't run it all the way down.

The 1300s give me 3900. More than my single. I can use all the voltage and bucking voltage is a bit more efficient. So all the current I need, a bit more efficiency, a bit more capacity, and I'm good. But it still isn't 5000 mah or more dual 18650s can do now. So ya, that's a deal breaker for some. Or get an even bigger mod with 2200 lipos for 6600 mah.

More than likely, lipos are the future, but right now it's a step back for most. And charging is also a problem. Those that need a lot of 18650s are already set with chargers and batteries. Now they gave to get more lipos and chargers. And I'm not thrilled with plugging and unplugging connectors a lot. Wear and tear and having to replace connectors. Not that big of a deal I suppose, but it is enough of one right now to keep a bunch of people from jumping on the Lipo band wagon.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

My MVP finally died am It has a place of honor on the shelf, the thing was great, got three people off cigs and held out for a year and a half. I do have 2 of those Ravpower packs and a third 6000mah pack similar to the others but alot cheaper. This one i keep on me the others are in the hurricane kit.