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Biebert and "You Don't Know Nicotine."

gsmit1

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I'm not sure where to put this or exactly what I think about it.
The Trailer:

Interview from 3 days ago.
 

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This is a parody right? They aren’t really gonna say it’s ruined lives, marriages, and families...right?
Ok watched the beginning of the second video and they have $hit eating grins so I’m gonna assume this is a troll job. Should be funny, plenty of material.
 

gsmit1

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Biebert's film "A Billion Lives" was excellent.

That trailer SEEMS to indicate that he has drastically changed his mind. Seems.

Both the trailer and the interview are dead serious.
 

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Biebert's film "A Billion Lives" was excellent.

That trailer SEEMS to indicate that he has drastically changed his mind. Seems.

are you saying he "was" pro vaping, and has now switched ?
 

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I'm saying it could appear that way.

if that's the case, his propaganda is just that. motive = profit. pro vaping just doesn't pay well. anti-vaping is paying, how well, idk, but it's paying.
 

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Sad - I actually sat through and listened closely to the interview

When asked his biggest takeaway and message to vapers and anti-vapers - he said vapers should be more nice, and also said we should stop saying vaping is harmless because....a little girl in Australia died after she DRANK 100mg freebase Nic her mother left out

His answer to the anti-vapers - who really aren't nice IMO - was muddled and unclear

Very sad to see his about face from his first effort, A Billion Lives

Also, the last trailer I saw implied a pro nicotine stance - hopefully he wasn't just blowing smoke up our asses to get fans of A Billion Lives to pay for an anti-nicotine film :mad:

This is from February

 

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Sad - I actually sat through and listened closely to the interview

When asked his biggest takeaway and message to vapers and anti-vapers - he said vapers should be more nice, and also said we should stop saying vaping is harmless because....a little girl in Australia died after she DRANK 100mg freebase Nic her mother left out

His answer to the anti-vapers - who really aren't nice IMO - was muddled and unclear

Very sad to see his about face from his first effort, A Billion Lives

Also, the last trailer I saw implied a pro nicotine stance - hopefully he wasn't just blowing smoke up our asses to get fans of A Billion Lives to pay for an anti-nicotine film :mad:

This is from February



If the little girl drank the blasted juice, it’s not really something to say against vaping. It’s more the fault of the parents who left it out for her to be able to get at!
Vapers should be more nice is a superficial comment, imo. :wth: This sounds like a money hunting thing!


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If the little girl drank the blasted juice, it’s not really something to say against vaping. It’s more the fault of the parents who left it out for her to be able to get at!
Vapers should be more nice is a superficial comment, imo. :wth:

The first video seems to be aimed at anti vapers, like he’s trying to navigate between vapers and anti vapers without offending either side. The second one is a straight up fundraiser, but he isn’t doing anything beneficial to vaping except saying nic is good. Great, but I don’t want to be forced to use an FDA approved vape device, whatever it might be for nic. Or not be able to vape to get nic.

I can assume that he doesn’t vape at all?


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gsmit1

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Sad - I actually sat through and listened closely to the interview

When asked his biggest takeaway and message to vapers and anti-vapers - he said vapers should be more nice, and also said we should stop saying vaping is harmless because....a little girl in Australia died after she DRANK 100mg freebase Nic her mother left out

His answer to the anti-vapers - who really aren't nice IMO - was muddled and unclear

Very sad to see his about face from his first effort, A Billion Lives

Also, the last trailer I saw implied a pro nicotine stance - hopefully he wasn't just blowing smoke up our asses to get fans of A Billion Lives to pay for an anti-nicotine film :mad:

This is from February

And then there's a comment from Grimm Green under the youtube post of the trailer saying how awesome this film is going to be. His word. Almost like he knows something we don't. I asked him what he meant, but he never answered.

I don't mind saying I'm thoroughly befuddled.
 

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If so then he's the chief of hypocrites seeing that the love of money was THE focus of A Billion Lives.
Hypocrisy is often a companion of the pursuit of money.
Not totally condemning him yet.
Will see how the film actually turns out.
IF he is doing the right thing then the trailer is to hook anti vapers but switch the message in the film?
 

gsmit1

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Will see how the film actually turns out.
I agree. That's why I keep using terms like "appears" and "if."

Something is very amiss here. Grimm is like the king of advocacy and he interviewed Biebert, which almost certainly means he had a private conversation with him too. Why would he say how awesome this is going to be? In the comments for THIS trailer?
 

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I agree. That's why I keep using terms like "appears" and "if."

Something is very amiss here. Grimm is like the king of advocacy and he interviewed Biebert, which almost certainly means he had a private conversation with him too. Why would he say how awesome this is going to be? In the comments for THIS trailer?
If he is doing a bait and switch on the anti vapers then he would definitely do all he could to keep that from leaking out.
And if Green knows this then it would be why he is keeping quiet about it.
 

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