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pescadore

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I have been reading lots of recipes with Bilberry so I ordered some. I had a couple of recipes that I have made that just lacked a little pop. I added 1 drop of Bilberry for every 5ml of juice and WOW what a difference. The Bilberry seemed to really give those flavors a nice pop. I am a fan !!!
 

John C

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I use bilberry as my main blueberry substitute. I dont know, it could be just me, it just seems to "pop," like you said.
 

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I can't figure out why I'm so sensitive to this flavor. I'm used to mixing with Fa and low percentages. Even a few drops in a mix though and it completely overpowers everything else. Anybody else have this problem?
 

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I can't figure out why I'm so sensitive to this flavor. I'm used to mixing with Fa and low percentages. Even a few drops in a mix though and it completely overpowers everything else. Anybody else have this problem?

I right here in the boat with you, I have not found a workable solution yet.
I've went as low as .25%, steeped for almost 2 months at various levels. And it still has a chemical taste.

The ONLY thing I haven't tried, is mixing it at levels higher than 10%.

I'm ready to simply write this one off.
 

Chrispdx

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For me, as a change up of another recipe from HIC, I did a 2% bilberry and 2%Joy FA and it was just smooth. I received the billberry on the inhale and a touch or the funnel cake. I tried the same recipe with RedTouch Strawberry FA and it just did not work and messed up my world as a first time DIY'er (so ready to through everything away at that point).

I think Billberry could become one of my possible favorites from FA. But taste is unique to everyone.
 

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I right here in the boat with you, I have not found a workable solution yet.
I've went as low as .25%, steeped for almost 2 months at various levels. And it still has a chemical taste.

The ONLY thing I haven't tried, is mixing it at levels higher than 10%.

I'm ready to simply write this one off.

Same here. It's driving me crazy!

For me, as a change up of another recipe from HIC, I did a 2% bilberry and 2%Joy FA and it was just smooth. I received the billberry on the inhale and a touch or the funnel cake. I tried the same recipe with RedTouch Strawberry FA and it just did not work and messed up my world as a first time DIY'er (so ready to through everything away at that point).

I think Billberry could become one of my possible favorites from FA. But taste is unique to everyone.

I can give that a try. Still trying to work joy in also. I tried that very HIC recipe and all I could taste was flat beer, genny cream ale due to the joy.
 

joeyboy

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I know with bilberry it is either right on, too little or too much. Using "just a few drops" can put it over. You definitely need a scale for this flavor, IMO.
 

Chrispdx

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Granted though my test of billberry and joy when after a short period of time. But I'm crossing my fingers it will still be ok tomorrow and excellent come Saturday which would be 7 days of time steeping.
 

Chrispdx

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Granted though my test of billberry and joy when after a short period of time. But I'm crossing my fingers it will still be ok tomorrow and excellent come Saturday which would be 7 days of time steeping.
I've haven't really done drops because I didn't see accuracy in that and measure by volumn is too much work for me(steering at a syringe markings...uggg). I totally agree going the measuring by weight right then chose to go one drop under or over at 0.01 gram.

Granted, I do measure my nic by both weight and volumn because as a new diy'er and I am very very cheap the cost ratio seemed more appropriate using 100mg nic but double checking nic is super important. I tried counting drops twice but the weight measurements were not spot on. The juice calculator helps to keep me safe
 

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I could never mix by drops. Started mixing by weight and haven't looked back since. I was just trying to say that the stuff stands out big time for me. .2% in a mix and that's all I can taste.
 

joeyboy

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You can't drop a bilberry +-.01 gram. It isn't that small. Weight is weight. Don't over think it. Flavors equal 1. Nic has its own weight based on percentage and what it is in (pg, vg or a combination). Make a nic base and save the heartache. Then you can concentrate on your flavor profile. Your calculator will tell how much base to add.
 

joeyboy

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I could never mix by drops. Started mixing by weight and haven't looked back since. I was just trying to say that the stuff stands out big time for me. .2% in a mix and that's all I can taste.
0.2% in how many mls? If you are making 5 mls that would be difficult. You may need larger quantity or another brand.
 

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Whoops, misread. Anyways. I was making 15 no batches to be able to get the flavor low. I've stepped away for now but I'm determined to work bilberry in at some point.
 
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0.2% in how many mls? If you are making 5 mls that would be difficult. You may need larger quantity or another brand.

If you want to make really small percentages, you could make a dilute flavor base.
Ad 1ml of BB to 9ml of PG. You now have a 10% BB solution, do the math from there.

I've never made 5ml of anything. Just to small of an amount so as to increase the margin of error. I test with at least 10 and usually 15ml. Let's face it, this stuff is cheap to make. You are saving a ton over store bought so don't cheap out during the creative process.
 

Chrispdx

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As for making a 5ml test run I think it's good for a shake and vape if that is all you want to do. But for any test (unless you have a bunch of bottles to do it) where you want to see how the flavor tastes in 2hours 24hrs 48-36hours and 1-2 weeks later 15ml would be my best guess to start with...but that is because I use a tank so I vape 2mls at a time then put the test away.
 

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As for making a 5ml test run I think it's good for a shake and vape if that is all you want to do. But for any test (unless you have a bunch of bottles to do it) where you want to see how the flavor tastes in 2hours 24hrs 48-36hours and 1-2 weeks later 15ml would be my best guess to start with...but that is because I use a tank so I vape 2mls at a time then put the test away.
Yeah I fully agree. I never mix a 5 ml. I'll usually mix a 15,.shake and vape then shelf it. Taste every few days and take notes.
 

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