You may want to try VT directly. Thats what I had to do and they were awesome to work with.I've looked at BCV a few times, and every time I look they're out of the 120ml 100mg TH nic. I'm still trying to get started
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Yup! That 's the plan at any rate, and then to eliquidmart for the FA flavors, and there's actually a farm supply company I *should* be able to get the syringes and mixing gear from. I'll be getting my PG/VG from VT as well.
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My tractor supply carries everything from 3ml on up. If your looking for 1ml then you may to search a bit if you want it locally.
What do guys use to measure VG? My biggest needle is 1.6mm (either 20 or 16 gauge, I can't remember which way numbering goes!) and that's just impossible for pure VG.
So I improvised a tube using one of the plastic tubes that the syringe needles are protected by! Cut the wide end off, and the narrower end fits over the end of the syringe and is fairly air tight. Works surprisingly well actually.
But I was wondering as to the proper way to do it
just a much bigger needle? Or do you use some kind of measuring tube? I only have jugs atm, which are far too big.
PS. I made a batch of the OP recipe last night, using the proper ingredients as I finally got some FA Custard. Can't wait to try it! Done two 140F hot baths and tons of drill stirring thus far, and I'll wait at least 24 hours before first trying.
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So I improvised a tube using one of the plastic tubes that the syringe needles are protected by! Cut the wide end off, and the narrower end fits over the end of the syringe and is fairly air tight. Works surprisingly well actually.
But I was wondering as to the proper way to do it
just a much bigger needle? Or do you use some kind of measuring tube? I only have jugs atm, which are far too big. PS. I made a batch of the OP recipe last night, using the proper ingredients as I finally got some FA Custard. Can't wait to try it! Done two 140F hot baths and tons of drill stirring thus far, and I'll wait at least 24 hours before first trying.
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I have 1, 3, 5 and 60ml syringes, a 30ml measuring cup and a scale. VG is tough with each of them, except the scale, but I have to pour slowly and cautiously with the scale. When I make an unflavored base, I usually use the 30ml measuring cup. It's just a dosage cup that came with a bottle of medicine. I measured into it with a syringe to make sure it's accurate.
To dispense VG by a syringe, I would recommend a 14 gauge needle. I have a few and they do work better than the 18 gauge. I see Kidney puncher has stainless needles in 12 gauge and the reviews state people love it to dispense the thick VG with. I may pick up a few since I do use syringes to make my juices with. I like the scale idea but as @Huckleberried stated, you will have to pour very slowly in order to be accurate.
It's actually super easy to decant some VG into a paper cup, and bend the cup to a point, then pour VG from that 'spout' you made into a beaker/bottle on the scale. I do it this way all the time, and I'm accurate to 0.05g or so. You only have to slow down when you get to within 1g or so of your target. It's the fastest and simplest way to add VG to a mix, IMO.
OK, thanks all!
I tried using the syringe without needle, but I could never reach it in far enough. I decant my VG and PG into 250ml colour-coded bottles (blue for PG, because it's chemical-y, green for VG because it's, well, green ) so that I don't have to keep pouring from the 1 litre source bottles (and such that any knock-over would be far less disastrous!) The downside is the neck is fairly narrow so I couldn't easily fit the 20ml syringe in there to use it without needle.
OK so you don't measure the volume at all? You're doing it by weight, on a scales, and you know the exact amount of VG you need in terms of weight? Actually of course that must be why all the recipe calculators show not just ml but also grams, right? According to the calc I have open, 25ml of VG weighs 31.53g.
Wow that's such a good idea actually. I have a suitable digital scales, I could pour the VG into anything. Hell, I wouldn't even need a paper cup - I could just put my destination bottle/jar on the scales, Tare it to 0.00, and then add the requisite delta amount of VG / PG by weight.
That's awesome! Please tell me I'm understanding all that correctly? because that sounds sooo much easier
Obviously I'll still need syringes and ml measures for ingredients, and perhaps nicotine, but I'm never making batches smaller than 50ml so I'm always going to have 30+ grams of VG and usually around 15 grams of PG, more than enough to measure out using a standard kitchen digital scales.
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I tried using the syringe without needle, but I could never reach it in far enough. I decant my VG and PG into 250ml colour-coded bottles (blue for PG, because it's chemical-y, green for VG because it's, well, green
) so that I don't have to keep pouring from the 1 litre source bottles (and such that any knock-over would be far less disastrous!) The downside is the neck is fairly narrow so I couldn't easily fit the 20ml syringe in there to use it without needle.OK so you don't measure the volume at all? You're doing it by weight, on a scales, and you know the exact amount of VG you need in terms of weight? Actually of course that must be why all the recipe calculators show not just ml but also grams, right?
According to the calc I have open, 25ml of VG weighs 31.53g.Wow that's such a good idea actually. I have a suitable digital scales, I could pour the VG into anything. Hell, I wouldn't even need a paper cup - I could just put my destination bottle/jar on the scales, Tare it to 0.00, and then add the requisite delta amount of VG / PG by weight.
That's awesome!
Please tell me I'm understanding all that correctly? because that sounds sooo much easierObviously I'll still need syringes and ml measures for ingredients, and perhaps nicotine, but I'm never making batches smaller than 50ml so I'm always going to have 30+ grams of VG and usually around 15 grams of PG, more than enough to measure out using a standard kitchen digital scales.
Glad I asked!!
OK, thanks all!
I tried using the syringe without needle, but I could never reach it in far enough. I decant my VG and PG into 250ml colour-coded bottles (blue for PG, because it's chemical-y, green for VG because it's, well, green
OK so you don't measure the volume at all? You're doing it by weight, on a scales, and you know the exact amount of VG you need in terms of weight? Actually of course that must be why all the recipe calculators show not just ml but also grams, right?
Wow that's such a good idea actually. I have a suitable digital scales, I could pour the VG into anything. Hell, I wouldn't even need a paper cup - I could just put my destination bottle/jar on the scales, Tare it to 0.00, and then add the requisite delta amount of VG / PG by weight.
That's awesome!
Obviously I'll still need syringes and ml measures for ingredients, and perhaps nicotine, but I'm never making batches smaller than 50ml so I'm always going to have 30+ grams of VG and usually around 15 grams of PG, more than enough to measure out using a standard kitchen digital scales.
Glad I asked!!
That's correct. I don't measure the volume at all, I just pour it directly onto the scale (1mL VG = 1.261g). I only pour the VG/PG into a paper cup because it's much more precise (down to individual drops) when you're pouring from the spout I described, and I don't have to try to pour out of a 1-gallon VG bottle directly. You just use the recipe calculator's weight in grams for VG/PG to add, and pour quickly til you're within a couple grams of the target, then slow down to a dribble. Takes me 30 seconds to add VG to my mixes to bring them to final volume this way, and I'm never off by more than 0.05g or so at worst.
Awesome, thank you! I'm switching to that method immediately
I've used intermediate receptacles before, like 10ml and 30ml bottles to measure out VG in stages, before I found my plastic-tube needle method. The problem I found with it is that the VG is so damn sticky that it's a pain getting those last few drops out of the intermediate measuring device. That's my hesitation with a paper cup. Of course a cup is much easier than a bottle, which has a neck; with a cup I could almost scoop it out. But I think I'll still start off pouring direct into the destination bottle. I've solved the large source bottle problem already with my 250ml PG and VG bottles: I top those up from my 1 litre main bottle using a funnel, and then mix only from the 250mls.
Thanks so much again, that's going to be so much easier! I feel dumb now, I kept seeing those gram readings on the calcs and it didn't even occur to me to think why people might use those, even as I was struggling with getting VG through a tiny needle or into far too many intermediate bottles
I've used intermediate receptacles before, like 10ml and 30ml bottles to measure out VG in stages, before I found my plastic-tube needle method. The problem I found with it is that the VG is so damn sticky that it's a pain getting those last few drops out of the intermediate measuring device. That's my hesitation with a paper cup. Of course a cup is much easier than a bottle, which has a neck; with a cup I could almost scoop it out. But I think I'll still start off pouring direct into the destination bottle. I've solved the large source bottle problem already with my 250ml PG and VG bottles: I top those up from my 1 litre main bottle using a funnel, and then mix only from the 250mls.
Thanks so much again, that's going to be so much easier! I feel dumb now, I kept seeing those gram readings on the calcs and it didn't even occur to me to think why people might use those, even as I was struggling with getting VG through a tiny needle or into far too many intermediate bottles
I mix 100% by weight. If you want to understand the full possibilities of the method, check this out: Mixing by Weight Guide by @Botboy141. It's a great quick read.Awesome, thank you! I'm switching to that method immediately
I've used intermediate receptacles before, like 10ml and 30ml bottles to measure out VG in stages, before I found my plastic-tube needle method. The problem I found with it is that the VG is so damn sticky that it's a pain getting those last few drops out of the intermediate measuring device. That's my hesitation with a paper cup. Of course a cup is much easier than a bottle, which has a neck; with a cup I could almost scoop it out. But I think I'll still start off pouring direct into the destination bottle. I've solved the large source bottle problem already with my 250ml PG and VG bottles: I top those up from my 1 litre main bottle using a funnel, and then mix only from the 250mls.
Thanks so much again, that's going to be so much easier! I feel dumb now, I kept seeing those gram readings on the calcs and it didn't even occur to me to think why people might use those, even as I was struggling with getting VG through a tiny needle or into far too many intermediate bottles
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I've got some plastic 2oz portion cups I mix small batches in, just squeeze the sides to form a nice little point for pouring into bottles. I pour vg and pg into little plastic flip top containers that are actually for salad dressings when I'm done mixing I pour what's left back into their perspective bottles. Much easier than trying to shove a syringe to the bottom of a big bottle.
Hi, @SusanP4 is this just fa custard and not the vanilla custard? Thanks in advanceBy request:
TFA Brown Sugar Extra 3%
FA Custard 3%
FA Caramel 2%
I suspect that this recipe is similar to a creme brulee, but since I've never actually had creme brulee I can't say for sure.
I've been meaning to try this out as a base and add other flavors that might be found in a custard. But I never get around to it because I like it the way it is. When my new flavor order comes in I'm going to make a big bottle and may take a bit out and add some lemon.
If anybody tries adding to it, let us know how it turns out.
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Yep. A vanilla might be good addition though.
I've never seen a vanilla custard made by FA. Capella's and TFA have one, as do a couple others.
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Overseas vendor? Never seen that before, not anywhere I've shopped here anyway.
Flavour art are Italian but readily available in the UK
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I bet it is what we get called custard.. @Carl01924 do you taste any lemon hints in it?
Looking on flavour art UK they list 2 seperate one just custard, and one as vanilla custard, I will message the vendor see if we can clear this up.
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omy!! you shall have to try and see
lol.. it's best to try singles anyways to see if you like them and what your happy spot is with them, before trying any recipes..
better add this one to your list..
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Calipitter chow? Ooo, please elaborate on that one.....
It's by mom & pops, its a one shot concentrate, its sweet and savoury and lush if you are a desert vaper I can highly recommend it's yummy.
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They do but at £10.50 Stirling it isn't cheap might be worth doing a group buy.
It's flavourart.co.uk
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I heard about this also but havent seen it. I'll get it even if I have to smuggle it in
ha.
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is this one of the custom blends from FA UK ?
No Idea, I have messaged the vendor, awaiting a response, it comes under the sweet category, it's definitely direct from FA Italy though not sure if it's specifically for the UK market though.
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I heard about this also but havent seen it. I'll get it even if I have to smuggle it in
Are you ordering from Italy or from the previously announced US site
I read this:
http://vapenewsmagazine.com/agent-vape/flavour-art-brings-flavours-to-north-america
which is why I ask.
well.. maybe if he could put 2.5% vanilla custard into a base and try it out and say what it tastes like lol
then we all would know what is up.. perhaps..
then we all would know what is up.. perhaps..
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I did find it from FA U.K., part of a sample pack of 5 10ml bottles for $15.95. You can opt for all five bottles to be the same flavor. But shipping to the states brought the total up to $31.xx.....a bit much, but I'm so tempted, lol! I should have it sent to my friend and shipped to me, much cheaper.
This is the response from FA UK.
"The Vanilla Custard is one blended by myself using FA standard flavours and is only available through FlavourArt UK.
FA Italy manufacture quite a few of the blended range for us exclusively, although if resellers wish to purchase in bulk
they can do subject to MOQ.
John"
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"The Vanilla Custard is one blended by myself using FA standard flavours and is only available through FlavourArt UK.
FA Italy manufacture quite a few of the blended range for us exclusively, although if resellers wish to purchase in bulk
they can do subject to MOQ.
John"
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ok, but have you mixed it and tasted it? if so, what does it taste like? if not, how come?
I know we all do, Carl.. thanks!
thanks!
@SmokyBlue ok so I've mixed a 10ml batch at your suggested 2.5% it has a distinct lemon fragrance, I will let it sit over night and have a taste and report back
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Thanks Carl! Sounds like it is still the same EU custard.. and it does taste really good, fresh or steeped
FA Custard is modeled after the Europe style of custard and the Capella custard is more American..
I like to combine them in bunches of different ways with things from fruits and nuts to sugars and breads
Was just curious, like others as to if your vanilla custard was the same FA custard, or not.. thanks again!
Thanks Carl! Sounds like it is still the same EU custard.. and it does taste really good, fresh or steeped
FA Custard is modeled after the Europe style of custard and the Capella custard is more American..
I like to combine them in bunches of different ways with things from fruits and nuts to sugars and breads
Was just curious, like others as to if your vanilla custard was the same FA custard, or not.. thanks again!
Your very welcome, please don't think I was being funny a couple of posts back it was all in jest.
I'd guess same base, with just the addition of vanilla, do you think it will work in this recipe, I will order straight custard to do a direct comparison.
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