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AmandaD

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You're the better judge of how strong will suit you, but I know you'd have plenty of company if you just doubled the percents I post. Overwhelming to me is just perfect for lots of people.

HIC knows I make most of my FA recipes (errr..HICs recipes) around 8%!
 

sharabear

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LoveVanilla's right about that FW Butterscotch-diacetyl. I used to use it for the flavor of those yellow disc candies in the cellophane wrapper. It's definitely the flavor of candy.

FA's Butterscotch is like b'scotch syrup in flavor and sweetness. It's just too strong and sweet for me as a standalone flavor

I like 2% FA Butterscotch with 1% FA Brandy for Buttershots (butterscotch schnapps) flavor with the sweetness dialed back a little.

2% FA Butterscotch with 1-1.5% FA Fresh Cream, for creamier, less sweet flavor

2% FA Butterscotch, 1% Fresh Cream, 1% Vienna Cream for sweet, rich, smooth, b'scotch with a little hint of vanilla

1.5% FA Butterscotch, 1% Fresh Cream, 1% Vanilla Tahiti for smooth, mild, vanilla-butterscotch (or V.Bourbon for darker vanilla, a little less sweet)

FA Butterscotch with FA Caramel is like combining the ice cream toppings. I prefer a combination to either one alone. Any of the above could use a combo instead of plain b'scotch. It creates a slightly 'darker' flavor, adds some good complexity, and it's a little less sweet.

A little bit (1% or less) of Brandy or Rum in any of the above just makes it taste better. Think 'butter-rum'....yum!
What % of FW butterscotch do you recommend to use?
 

Heabob

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I've heard most use up to 10% for FW BS.

Or mix them like this...

Butterscotch Swirl

Butterscotch FW 3%
Butterscotch FA 3%
Butterscotch TFA 3%
Vanilla Swirl TFA 3%
Sweet Cream TFA 2%

This one is good, but maybe not great IMO.


Tried NF Butterscotch but it has strong taste of alcohol.
 

RebelGolfer72

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I know this is digging up an old thread, but thank you HinC!
Gives me a lot to try, and I have most of those flavors!
 

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LoveVanilla's right about that FW Butterscotch-diacetyl. I used to use it for the flavor of those yellow disc candies in the cellophane wrapper. It's definitely the flavor of candy.

FA's Butterscotch is like b'scotch syrup in flavor and sweetness. It's just too strong and sweet for me as a standalone flavor

I like 2% FA Butterscotch with 1% FA Brandy for Buttershots (butterscotch schnapps) flavor with the sweetness dialed back a little.

2% FA Butterscotch with 1-1.5% FA Fresh Cream, for creamier, less sweet flavor

2% FA Butterscotch, 1% Fresh Cream, 1% Vienna Cream for sweet, rich, smooth, b'scotch with a little hint of vanilla

1.5% FA Butterscotch, 1% Fresh Cream, 1% Vanilla Tahiti for smooth, mild, vanilla-butterscotch (or V.Bourbon for darker vanilla, a little less sweet)

FA Butterscotch with FA Caramel is like combining the ice cream toppings. I prefer a combination to either one alone. Any of the above could use a combo instead of plain b'scotch. It creates a slightly 'darker' flavor, adds some good complexity, and it's a little less sweet.

A little bit (1% or less) of Brandy or Rum in any of the above just makes it taste better. Think 'butter-rum'....yum!
What are your percentages for butterscotch with caramel? I'm looking to do a BC cream. Trying to clone Grumpy Old Bastard which is basically a butterscotch/caramel/cream - should be simple but from researching it may take longer than I think. Thanks
 

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What are your percentages for butterscotch with caramel? I'm looking to do a BC cream. Trying to clone Grumpy Old Bastard which is basically a butterscotch/caramel/cream - should be simple but from researching it may take longer than I think. Thanks

Well, here's the thing. If you're trying to clone a liquid that uses flavorings with diketones, it's just not going to taste the same with no-diketone FA flavorings. If diketones are not an issue, and you want something with butterscotch flavor, I really recommend Nature's Flavors Butterscotch (not the one with 'cream' in the name, just the plain one) for your main flavor, somewhere 2-4%.
 

Heabob

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I mix it at 15%. Just got a 120ml bottle of it... Yummy.

I made one up with 15% FW Natural Butterscotch recently and it's also pretty good...
Haven't tried the regular version that high yet tho.
 

MrScaryZ

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This brings up my desire to see anyone truly copy Marilyn by Pinup I have not tried yet the butterscotch in Marilyn is very close to the hard candy taste I keep thinking that it may have a bit of alcohol based butterscotch I know this is not totally on target but Butterscotch is elusive..
 

Icurrie44

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Maybe my bottle of FA Butterscotch is a bit off, but this flavouring is very peppery !
Not what you want in Butterscotch.
Does anyone know of another manufacturer that makes a nice butterscotch flavouring that is NOT peppery !!!
 

fq06

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Alice in vapeland is good around 1.75% with whatever cream or custards you want to throw at it.
Alcohol base concentrate, mix up your juice without noc, let it sit without a cap for a couple days, add nic and seal it up for a month.

Vape wild has a good DIY concentrate and that is pretty much ready to go unless you want it more custardy then add caps vc. 15% to 20%... you need a lot with that one.
 

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Maybe my bottle of FA Butterscotch is a bit off, but this flavouring is very peppery !
Not what you want in Butterscotch.
Does anyone know of another manufacturer that makes a nice butterscotch flavouring that is NOT peppery !!!
What % of the FA did you use? It doesn't take much. 1 to 2% is the most I use and I don't get pepper. The following is taken from HICs notes on FA which can be downloaded from here: http://www.hicsmixes.com/notes-etc.html

FA Butterscotch
Bolder, richer, and sweeter than FA Caramel, like butterscotch ice-cream topping. For
bold caramel flavor in a recipe, Butterscotch stands out more distinctly than FA
Caramel. Where caramel blends in; Butterscotch pops. 2% Butterscotch + 1% FA
Brandy makes a Buttershots butterscotch schnapps flavor, good in cocktail-type vapes.
When combined with nut flavors or Coconut, some very rich, buttery notes can develop
over time. The higher quality your nic and the more VG in your mix, the smoother
Butterscotch will taste. FA Jamaican Rum sweetens it well - think butter rum.
 

RonJS

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1 to 2% is the most I use and I don't get pepper.

I recently used some FA Butterscotch with a BBD of 01/16. (HIC's Buttershots) No pepper notes at all.

In the past I have gotten pepper notes from nic......

Ron
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"The proper method for inquiring after the properties of things is to deduce them from experiments."- Isaac Newton
 

Icurrie44

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Thanks for your ideas...
The flavouring itself has a srong peppery smell. However I bought an FL Marshmallow at the same time and that is fine ?
 

Heabob

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Maybe my bottle of FA Butterscotch is a bit off, but this flavouring is very peppery !
Not what you want in Butterscotch.
Does anyone know of another manufacturer that makes a nice butterscotch flavouring that is NOT peppery !!!

FW Butterscotch tastes the best but you'll probably need to use 10-15% IMO.
Long as you're not worried about the baddies that is.
http://www.bullcityflavors.com/butterscotch-fw/

And FW Natural Butterscotch is the second best I've found, and it's the clean version.
http://www.bullcityflavors.com/natural-butterscotch-fw/

FW Butter Pecan and Hazelnut are real good too.

At least they're cheap enough to give them a shot anyway.
 

Icurrie44

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I think I'll order some more FA Butterscotch but from another outlet ?
As I said, my FA Marshmallow is fine
 

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