Clapton for TC

[VAPESWAPSHOP]

Ok so for ss316L it comes up as 879 which I take it is rounded to 88(zeroes before etc.) in tcr range...and I think I get it but how come the tcr stays the same no matter what build or settings I change? Shouldn't it change accordingly (even with the same type of wire)? My ss claptons wont do crap at tcr 88 so I guess I am sayin I just wish it was less standard with tc wires.....? The best way must be just to keep testing tcr numbers till you get it right. Idk im always lookin for shortcuts smh...

 

[Alter]

I'm new at this TC game. So I understand the following to be correct about mixed wire claptons:
-The outer wrap doesn't need to be in the post, so you can unwind the outer wrap and just secure the inside wire.
- the outer wrap doesn't register in TC, so a 28gauge kanthal with a 32SS outer wrap won't register as SS in the TC.
- securing the outer wrap inside the post creates inconsistent readings.
-The core wire is the one that heats up and the wrap just transfers the heat.
-Dryburning SS can do more harm than good, so only slightly heat up and scrape chunkies off and/or heat up and with a dropper drip water onto the coil.

These thing I never thought about just using kanthal/kanthal claptons but now mixing wire types shit like this is on my mind.

 

[KingPin!]

Ok so for ss316L it comes up as 879 which I take it is rounded to 88(zeroes before etc.) in tcr range...and I think I get it but how come the tcr stays the same no matter what build or settings I change? Shouldn't it change accordingly (even with the same type of wire)? My ss claptons wont do crap at tcr 88 so I guess I am sayin I just wish it was less standard with tc wires.....? The best way must be just to keep testing tcr numbers till you get it right. Idk im always lookin for shortcuts smh...

0.00088 (10-5)

The way I think about it is TCR is the average linear line of resistence change for that metal type per 1.c ... just because you have more of it doesn't affect that it just takes longer to heat it but for every degree change it goes through it's resistence still only changes by that TCR

Obviously not all metal is born equally when smelting so those TCRs will vary slightly depending on who manufactured the metal

 

[VAPESWAPSHOP]

I'm new at this TC game. So I understand the following to be correct about mixed wire claptons:
-The outer wrap doesn't need to be in the post, so you can unwind the outer wrap and just secure the inside wire.
- the outer wrap doesn't register in TC, so a 28gauge kanthal with a 32SS outer wrap won't register as SS in the TC.
- securing the outer wrap inside the post creates inconsistent readings.
-The core wire is the one that heats up and the wrap just transfers the heat.
-Dryburning SS can do more harm than good, so only slightly heat up and scrape chunkies off and/or heat up and with a dropper drip water onto the coil.

These thing I never thought about just using kanthal/kanthal claptons but now mixing wire types shit like this is on my mind.

If securing the wrap is really that big a difference then maybe thats what it is but ive never just secured the center. I get worried cause pullin the wrap wire is like pullin a loose thread on a sweater, how far do I pull? is it gonna unravel if I do this? It IS pretty springy stuff at times....if I bump up the tcr it usually does ok but its more likely to burn. Wattage almost seems to work better because its cut and dry I guess, but when it burns its all the same though. Just trying to get the best production from my device while still being sure I aint killin myself...is that too much to ask?

 

[VAPESWAPSHOP]

0.00088 (10-5)

The way I think about it is TCR is the average linear line of resistence change for that metal type per 1.c ... just because you have more of it doesn't affect that it just takes longer to heat it but for every degree change it goes through it's resistence still only changes by that TCR

Obviously not all metal is born equally when smelting so those TCRs will vary slightly depending on who manufactured the metal

Then why does a twisted or claptoned 316L require a higher tcr to get cranking to the same production as a single strand? I would think suface area and amount of wire WOULD change how fast a wire gets hot because its all about conduction right? I mean I use the same brand wire till its out so my tcr should stay the same no matter the build then, but they vary from 90s to 130s so that doesnt seem logical to me. I build the same clapton wire and just make diff size/type coils with it...so how would it need to vary so much in tcr to make my build work ok? Sidenote it varies in wattage too not just in tcr mode

 

[KingPin!]

It doesn't require a higher TCR (unless there are impurities in the metal) You are mixing heat flux, ambient temperature and heat capacity
up with TCR

Whilst they directly affect each other in terms of the collision process that occur, the atoms in the wire you are using behave the same so doesn't matter whether you use a big fat peice of wire or a tiny thin peice those atoms for that metal type are still structured in the same way and will still resist the same on average over the heating process (assuming same metal from the same manufacturer)

It's the other properties I mentioned that affect the experience you are seeing that's why cracking up the wattage or preheat functions maybe needed

Don't forget the more mass the longer it takes to cool down as well so maybe only the preheat function needs to be modified

PG/VG ratio Also matters VG has a higher boiling point than PG, wicking and airflow and heat dissipation in the chamber also play a big role in the TC experience

The best article I've read on the introduction to TC is the below I'll paste this into my Q&A thread as well

https://www.ecigssa.co.za/guide-to-fine-tuning-temp-control-vaping.t18206/