Coil Naming Conventions

[BrokenChef]

I've been vaping for 14 years but after the last 2 weeks of reading in here, I'm quickly realizing I don't know Jack (or Jill - or Sam for that matter)!

Can someone please comment on the name differences for these items so I am not confusing others when I talk about stuff/ask questions?

Perhaps there is already a thread somewhere that I couldn't find.

COILS:
1. We have the (mostly) Chinese made coils that screw into a tank - machine made, use em, throw em away, screw in another.

2. We have coils made by consumers from a spool of wire for an RDA .

3. We have premade coils (just the wound wire) from China that are for RDA's.

4. Coils for RDA's made by fellow vapers , then sold. b_d_builders stand out from recent readings.

Regular ohm, sub ohm, built by me, built by you, built in china, etc, etc You get the idea! Then we get into staples, double, triple, framed, alien, clapton, etc, etc.... Framed Staggered Stapled Clapton Coils - Who the what?!?!

These are ALL known to me as just COILS!

Are there specific naming conventions I should be using when referring to these different types of coils?

Thank you!

 

[5150sick]

The sub ohm tank or pod coils are disposable, you have to throw away the metal casing, the coil, and cotton every time the cotton goes bad. This is the most expensive but convenient method
The coils that go into an RDA, RTA, etc... are replaceable, You can get away with just rewicking it after burning (and/or scraping with a small brush) the coil gunk off for up to a dozen times.
2, 3, and 4 are all similar because the Chinese or the coils made by fellow vapers all come from intertwining different regular wire together.

The names we use:
1) Factory coils
2) Just regular Wire - The wire types are most important here - Stainless steel, kanthal, NiChrome, nickel, etc...
3) Pre Made exotic coils
4) Hand made exotic coils.

Exotic coils come in different types or wire patterns.
Each name is a different style of coil.
Fused & Staggered is the way the wire is on the coil, staggered is spaced equally, fused has no spaces.

 

[Vape Fan]

1. These are generally referred to as "sub ohm" coils since they mostly go in a sub ohm tank. Another term, and I use, is coil heads, so there's no mistake.
That being said, ANY coil below 1.0Ω is sub ohm[<1.0Ω] vaping.

My take is that usually if it's a factory coil ie "coil head" it will have a qualifier when someone describes it [like sub ohm, factory, coil head] unless its obvious, like someone talking about a coil for a certain device.

2, 3, 4 - Yeah, just coils. Handmade, home made, pre wound, custom, machine made, etc. If there's more that 1 wire then it probably has a core wire[or wires] that's wrapped with an outer wire[wrap]. Something like twisted would be more than 1 wire but no core(s). Some have multiple cores and a wrap[clapton], if the wrap is wavy the it's Alien and hand made because I don't believe that there's yet been a machine invented that can do the alien wrap. Some places adv coils as alien but they don't have a wavy wrap, and that's because they are trying to be deceiving.

Specific naming? Not necessarily. Depends on context.
Naming is how they are built, should be able to find those definitions pretty easy.
Ex: "framed" could be that the usually round core wires have a flat wire[ribbon] on each side, making it "framed", and those are held together with a wrap. That wrap makes it a clapton unless the wrap is wavy, then its an alien. This is actually how one of my favorite coils are made- framed + alien = Fralien.

 

[Frogger]

1. Stock coil (or factory coil i guess, but stock coil everyone will know exactly what u mean)

2. just plain 'coil' what everyone who builds considers the correct word for a coil u have wrapped yourself.

3. pre-wrapped, pre-made coil, or just 'coil' because its there is no difference unless u r talking about the actual wrapping process.

Awg=round wire
Clapton/fused clapton is an inner wire/wires [respectively] wraped in an outer wire.
Alien is essentially just a de-cored clapton, then re wrapped around a new wire giving it its distictive ridge pattern. (I believe a true alien coil has other pre-requisites, but thats essentially what they r)

The expensive specialty ones i have seen referred to as specialty coils, or by the person who wrapped them or by what type they r, framed staple, alien, etc.

(Im not really into aliens so if i am mistaken slightly about how they r created i apologize)

 

[MyMagicMist]

My take is that usually if it's a factory coil ie "coil head" it will have a qualifier when someone describes it [like sub ohm, factory, coil head] unless its obvious, like someone talking about a coil for a certain device.

Agreed, or "coil assembly" is a term I use. Ones like that I think of as "plug n play" coil/s.

 

[VapeOn1960]

1. We have the (mostly) Chinese made coils that screw into a tank - machine made, use em, throw em away, screw in another.

"factory" or what I call "drop-in" coils. Easy to use but expensive in the long run (and after awhile can you even find them?) They don't all screw in... some just press in. Too bad that when the cotton get's "icky", you cant replace it... rebuildables you can replace the cotton many times over.

 

[VapeOn1960]

2. We have coils made by consumers from a spool of wire for an RDA .

Umm... did you forget RTAs (and RDTAs) and don't forget RBAs (a small rebuildable replacement for "drop- in" factory coils)
Simple wire (round wire, flat wire) and then you can wind your own "fancy" wire (single core clapton, multi "fused" core claptons and so on) can also be wound by the user. They can be wound "spaced" or "contact". Keep in mind they can be wound "clockwise" or "counter-clockwise" depending on the building deck you are using.

 

[VapeOn1960]

3. We have premade coils (just the wound wire) from China that are for RDA's.

Once again... (and RTAs, RDTAs and RBAs) sorry to repeat that.
What you mean is "pre-wound" coils. This is where it gets complicated... so many variations and styles (and crazy names) Also be aware of "clockwise" vs "counter-clockwise" winds... this can suck because most are the same and may not be what you desire (but it's easy to fix... sort of... I wish they gave you a choice) Also, you are stuck with a coil that has a fixed number of wraps (like 6... but maybe you want 5 or 7) Something to keep in mind (for all rebuildable coils) is how they fit the build deck (the distance between mounting holes) BUT... if you find some you like (avoid those variety packs... nothiing wrong with them, just most may not be what you want/need and many tend to be very low ohm) get a bunch of them.

 

[VapeOn1960]

4. Coils for RDA's made by fellow vapers , then sold. b_d_builders stand out from recent readings.

Just like #3... many fancy names and styles (this is all over my head) these are mostly hand-made and require a lot of work to make (and can be VERY good) I have not come even close to this level (and can't afford what I would assume a quality hand-made coil would cost) These may very well be excellent coils but have no experience so don't know.

 

[VapeOn1960]

It is important to learn about the materials (metals... alloys) that are used for coils.
And about wattage vs temp control: Kanthal (A1) and Nichrome (Ni80 or 90) are only for wattage control. SS (stainless steel) can be used for wattage or temp control. Nickel (N200) and Titanium are just for temp control (I have never used TC so can't advise on that)
I am obviously less experienced than many others here but hope my comments help.

 

[VapeOn1960]

Did you know a "clapton" wire (one, two or more core wires wrapped in a thinner wire) is name after the rock star Eric Clapton because they resemble and electric guitar string. Honestly, a simple dual core fused clapton is a good wire to start with (before trying really fancy stuff)
For a total beginner, there is nothing wrong with learning to wind your own simple "round wire" coils (I still do this for some simple old school RTAs)

 

[MyMagicMist]

Did you know a "clapton" wire (one, two or more core wires wrapped in a thinner wire) is name after the rock star Eric Clapton because they resemble and electric guitar string. Honestly, a simple dual core fused clapton is a good wire to start with (before trying really fancy stuff)
For a total beginner, there is nothing wrong with learning to wind your own simple "round wire" coils (I still do this for some simple old school RTAs)

Still like using a basic round wire, single strand coil. Can do as well as I desire, even being pleasantly surprised at times rolling a cloud off the mountain here. *grin* Not a cloud chucker or chaser, not a toodle puffer either. Fall somewhere between. I stay real simple.

Have tried Ni80/90, SS316L. Not done anything with temp control. Bit of a Luddite regarding regulated devices. Seems anything with more than a MOSFET "safety" chip will turn into an unusable brick for me.

Not an electronic fidgeting type here so no real interest in trying to buy new chips, fix mods. You can buy new for $30 or less, no need to bother fixing. Tells you the level of quality control, too. Mechanical gear can usually get fixed in a few moments, maybe visit local hardware.

Simple, see? Keep It Simple Silly ---> K.I.S.S. If you do, there's less to hassle over, less drama, stress. Hm, gee anyone ever note I flow to less stress? He he get told it could kill you decide soon enough to let stress go its own merry and you, your own. Used to do nothing but stress, constant. *sighs* Young and dumb.

Not telling anyone to not use regulated devices. If anyone likes that, have at it with brightest blessings. Charge the ramparts vaping on a temperature controlled device! Will just follow that other drummer meself. Saul Goode helped me write this.

Needed his insight as sciatica is being a fracking something or 'nother. Blaming our recent chill down for that, drew it inside as one is wont to do.

La vie, absurde qu'elle est, nous devons encore la vivre.

Elämä, absurdi hän on, meidän on silti elettävä hänen kanssaan.

Das Leben, so absurd sie auch ist, wir müssen sie noch leben.

Beatha, absurd a tha i, feumaidh sinn fhathast a bhith beò.

Saol, áiféiseach go bhfuil sí, ní mór dúinn fós chun cónaí uirthi.

Viață, absurdă ea, mai trebuie să o trăim.

Life, absurd she is, we still have to live her.

 

[Just Frank]

I make fancy pants wires . There's tons of different names for exotic wires. I mainly make and use staggered fused claptons. The difference between those and regular fused claptons, is basically every core gets a (Spaced) Clapton wire. I've made them with 2 cores, and some with up to 20 cores (not a typo ). Each of them gets "Fused" together with a separate wire that falls into the spaces I initially created.

Fused Clapton wire has bare round wire cores. They're positioned side by side like with SFC, them fused together with a separate wire. You'd think that they'd be similar vape wise but no. The staggered ones are usually way more flavorful. Some can be top of the food chain, flavor beasts. I say "some" because not all of them are created equal. There's gotta be hundreds of different ways to make just this one style.

 

[Frogger]

I make fancy pants wires . There's tons of different names for exotic wires. I mainly make and use staggered fused claptons. The difference between those and regular fused claptons, is basically every core gets a (Spaced) Clapton wire. I've made them with 2 cores, and some with up to 20 cores (not a typo ). Each of them gets "Fused" together with a separate wire that falls into the spaces I initially created.

Fused Clapton wire has bare round wire cores. They're positioned side by side like with SFC, them fused together with a separate wire. You'd think that they'd be similar vape wise but no. The staggered ones are usually way more flavorful. Some can be top of the food chain, flavor beasts. I say "some" because not all of them are created equal. There's gotta be hundreds of different ways to make just this one style.

Wait, im trying to follow this, so inside a staggered fused, the cores go spaced clapton-awg-spaced clapton, then wrapped in outer wire?

 

[Frogger]

Oh wait...i get it, i think, the cores are speced claptons, and then u wrap them in a wire that fills in the spaces on the cores...i know that is exactly what u said, but now i understand

Ive always been a fused clapton man, cause they taste a little 'wetter' or 'fuller' then awg as far as vapor...might have to try these

 

[Frogger]

I make fancy pants wires . There's tons of different names for exotic wires. I mainly make and use staggered fused claptons. The difference between those and regular fused claptons, is basically every core gets a (Spaced) Clapton wire. I've made them with 2 cores, and some with up to 20 cores (not a typo ). Each of them gets "Fused" together with a separate wire that falls into the spaces I initially created.

Fused Clapton wire has bare round wire cores. They're positioned side by side like with SFC, them fused together with a separate wire. You'd think that they'd be similar vape wise but no. The staggered ones are usually way more flavorful. Some can be top of the food chain, flavor beasts. I say "some" because not all of them are created equal. There's gotta be hundreds of different ways to make just this one style.

Does anyone like coilogy make a 28/38 paralled dual core with a 38 wrap? Not sure the naming convention

 

[BrokenChef]

Holy crap, I didn't even see all the replies here... Thanks for all the replies!! I will read them when I get a chance... working on moving my son this weekend!

 

[Frogger]

Does anyone like coilogy make a 28/38 paralled dual core with a 38 wrap? Not sure the naming convention

N/m, I found their staggered fused (exactly the same guage actually)...4 dollars for 2 coils...too pricey for my blood

 

[VapeOn1960]

I make fancy pants wires

And I have seen them... seems like you advanced very quickly! Some day I will take this sort of thing on (slow winter days maybe)

 

[VapeOn1960]

Who knows... maybe someday I will create my own wire design and name it "in through the out door" (Led Zeppelin album name) just to really confuse things LOL

 

[Just Frank]

Oh wait...i get it, i think, the cores are speced claptons, and then u wrap them in a wire that fills in the spaces on the cores...i know that is exactly what u said, but now i understand

Ive always been a fused clapton man, cause they taste a little 'wetter' or 'fuller' then awg as far as vapor...might have to try these

Yep, I think you're getting it . My latest version is so wide that I only used three wraps. This isn't one of my norms, but here's a visual:

The specs are- N80 SFC: 10x32/42ga. I made it by making one really long piece of 32/42ga spaced clapton wire. I cut that into ten pieces and (after some prep work), fused them all together with a separate piece of 42ga. The legs were so wide they wouldn't fit into the post holes . I had to do some doctoring to make it work.

I mentioned 20 cores earlier. Those are for really short pieces that go into mesh rebuildables like the Profile. Here's one of those:

There's LOTS of ways to make SFC wire. I have control over how many cores, what sizes, Clapton wrap size, metal type (for every single core wire, clapton wrap, and fusing wire which can be a mix of whatever I want). I'll post a couple more coils that I've used in my dragons.

This one is 7x31/42ga:

I usually use 6x31/42ga, but tried one more core there.

Smaller 6x34/42ga:

I prefer the size of the clapton wraps to be pretty thin. 36 or 38ga can add a lot more bulk when using multiple cores. I mainly use 42ga but also 40 sometimes.

I forgot to post a mixed coil so here's one of those too :

The center ones are SS316L, and the outsides are KA1. Fusing wire is also SS. I really love stags.

 

[Just Frank]

And I have seen them... seems like you advanced very quickly! Some day I will take this sort of thing on (slow winter days maybe)

My whole first year, I pretty much alien wrapped everything. I got into staggering because I was a little bored doing the same thing all the time. I didn't expect to gain as much improvement in flavor as I did. It was surprisingly much better (Than aliens/fraliens etc.) once I started learning what to do. I figured out a repeatable/reliable routine for everything and it was off to the races! I remember being frustrated a few times but worked through it. In about four or five months I was making things I didn't believe was possible (For me ). Like anything, if you practice enough and actually pay attention, improvement is bound to happen. Thankfully I've always been blessed with good vision and steady hands.

 

[BobsHere]

Thankfully I've always been blessed with good vision and steady hands.

I have neither....

 

[BrokenChef]

I remember being frustrated a few times but worked through it.

I got frustrated wrapping one single strand around a post, I'd pull all 3 strand of hair out trying to do some of the coils you posted pics of. Before I read it and at first glance, I thought it was just mesh but WOW... those are some wild coils!! I don't think I'll be attempting anything like that, ever...

I need to find someone to buy coils from, I don't have the patience to make them.

Tried my hand years ago wrapping gemstones with gold wire. Never made one thing I considered salable, esp next to what I saw others doing. I'll stick to cooking food and buy my coils, lol.

 

[Frogger]

Like anything, if you practice enough and actually pay attention, improvement is bound to happen. Thankfully I've always been blessed with good vision and steady hands.

My eyes started going a few years ago, reading glass city. Took me a while to figure out what the deal was too (medication, watery eyes, bad lighting, whatever) until i put on a pair and was like oh, so thats what its like to need glasses, because i had never worn them before.

 

[BrokenChef]

My eyes started going a few years ago, reading glass city. Took me a while to figure out what the deal was too (medication, watery eyes, bad lighting, whatever) until i put on a pair and was like oh, so thats what its like to need glasses, because i had never worn them before.

Same here... Went back to college around age 45 for IT Systems Specialist. Started getting headaches and the screen would get blurry. Got some blue blocking prescription glasses that I keep on computer desk - just use the cheap +2 reading glasses if I'm not at the computer. Not taking the chance of losing, breaking, scratching $300 glasses!

 

[BrokenChef]

Due to leaking (cant tip it over or squeeze too hard on the bottle), I am realizing that Squonking will be my "at-home" method and will probably end up using my old tanks for 'on-the-go" so I am wondering: What's the difference between Geekvape Super Mesh, Aero Mesh and IM coils? Does anyone make Nichrome factory coils or are they all Kanthal? Thanks!!

 

[Frogger]

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[Frogger]

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[BrokenChef]

Ok, why not got to an rta instead?

Mainly because I have one new squonk in my hand and another otw from vaChina, including 2 more RDA's.

I have 5 tanks that all take the same PnP coil so I'm just looking to buy a few coils for backup and the 2 hours a week I'm not at home.

This little Smok Priv V8 is super small and sleek, slides out of my pocket like a Zippo. I can live without a squonk for 2 hours a week.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Due to leaking (cant tip it over or squeeze too hard on the bottle), I am realizing that Squonking will be my "at-home" method

Usually there are simple "fixes" for these. You spot the first regarding RDAs and afc holes. Don't tip your mod or get juice out of the holes if you got in a deck's well/s. Another good work around. I like to squonk a bit less probably less than most do. I go 8-12 good draws off a squonked wick before needing to squonk again. Some others squonk for every draw.

After squonking a while you'll develop your own "feel" on what you can "get by" with before running afoul of that cursed troll, "dry hit". This can also be subjective to the gear used, juice viscosity and the litany of "other factors". *smh* But you'll get the "basic idea" and "be off" from that.

Got a Signature Tips SQ sqounker. The bottle in it has a tube which is coming up just a hair or two too short to fit snug on the 510 post. So, squonk and get juice in the mod not RDA. Well, I took a bit of scrap cardboard (the lighter kind) folded it up into a little "shim". Put that under the bottle to lift it up. Not sure I've appropriate tube on hand currently to fashion a new tube for the bottle. It slides up snug on the post being shimmed up.

I carry squonks out of the house all the time. Got plenty of tube mods around, a couple "tanks" but seems I'm just a squonk-a-holic. Normally have at least 3 squonks in rotation all the time. Hm, yep all three are mechanical too.

Apologies, this isn't to read as me "telling" anyone "what to do". It's just anecdotes expressed sharing experience for thought. Take & leave what you choose.

 

[nadalama]

Usually there are simple "fixes" for these. You spot the first regarding RDAs and afc holes. Don't tip your mod or get juice out of the holes if you got in a deck's well/s. Another good work around. I like to squonk a bit less probably less than most do. I go 8-12 good draws off a squonked wick before needing to squonk again. Some others squonk for every draw.

After squonking a while you'll develop your own "feel" on what you can "get by" with before running afoul of that cursed troll, "dry hit". This can also be subjective to the gear used, juice viscosity and the litany of "other factors". *smh* But you'll get the "basic idea" and "be off" from that.

Got a Signature Tips SQ sqounker. The bottle in it has a tube which is coming up just a hair or two too short to fit snug on the 510 post. So, squonk and get juice in the mod not RDA. Well, I took a bit of scrap cardboard (the lighter kind) folded it up into a little "shim". Put that under the bottle to lift it up. Not sure I've appropriate tube on hand currently to fashion a new tube for the bottle. It slides up snug on the post being shimmed up.

I carry squonks out of the house all the time. Got plenty of tube mods around, a couple "tanks" but seems I'm just a squonk-a-holic. Normally have at least 3 squonks in rotation all the time. Hm, yep all three are mechanical too.

Apologies, this isn't to read as me "telling" anyone "what to do". It's just anecdotes expressed sharing experience for thought. Take & leave what you choose.

I'm with you on not over-squonking - I probably also replenish the juice at a slower rate than most people. I want the cotton wet, but without much juice buildup in the RDA well. Best way to do that, I've found, is to squonk and hold the bottle in for about 8-10 seconds, then let it go, and the suction on the bottle will pull most of the excess juice back out of the deck. At least it will on a well-designed RSA. But I definitely don't want the deck so full of juice that it leaks out if the mod isn't standing straight up. I also do not hit the bottle after every draw.

Also with you that it takes a little while to get the feel of it, especially if you're running a bunch of different squonkers and each of them behaves a little differently. It is possible to tell when the cotton begins to dry out, before it gets to the point of a burnt hit (most times - as in everything, we strive for progress, not perfection).

I think all of these points relate to why I like my Asmodus Pumper squonker so much. It's easy to tell when the cotton starts to run dry, and I know if I give it three pumps on the old silver squonk lever, it will be good to go for another dozen hits or so. That lever acts as a regulating mechanism for the juice.

 

[BrokenChef]

Will def take some time to get used to squonking. Not sure what (flake of paint maybe), but there was a little piece of something in my RDA that was blocking the hole so it wasn't drawing the excess back into the squonk bottle.. prob why juice dumped out when I tipped it.

I ordered a couple of those Wotofo V8 SMRT kits just to check them out and because SmartSource had them for $5. I won that VOOPOO Drag kit giveaway so I like having something on hand that's easy and simple to get someone started on switching from cigs or from those expensive garbage throw aways. The money I will save by switching to an RDA from PnP coils will allow me to stock up a bit more.

Still PO'd about the new Zeus coils turning to sh!t after 1 day when I used to get a month out of 1 coil.

 

[nadalama]

Will def take some time to get used to squonking. Not sure what (flake of paint maybe), but there was a little piece of something in my RDA that was blocking the hole so it wasn't drawing the excess back into the squonk bottle.. prob why juice dumped out when I tipped it.

I ordered a couple of those Wotofo V8 SMRT kits just to check them out and because SmartSource had them for $5. I won that VOOPOO Drag kit giveaway so I like having something on hand that's easy and simple to get someone started on switching from cigs or from those expensive garbage throw aways. The money I will save by switching to an RDA from PnP coils will allow me to stock up a bit more.

Still PO'd about the new Zeus coils turning to sh!t after 1 day when I used to get a month out of 1 coil.

Which Drag did you win? I love my Drags, think I have 7 of various models (2xOG Drag, 2xDrag 2, Drag 3, and 2xDrag X). Have some other Voopoo gear, too, all of which I like and frequently use.

It sure seems that Geekvape has just turned to junk lately. I hate saying that, because they were also one of my favorite gear manufacturers for a long time. Not any more, unfortunately.

 

[Frogger]

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[BrokenChef]

I have a drag x pro and a drag x pro plus and neither one of them will hold their wattage in rba mode. Always auto adjusting. Annoying as f***.

VOOPOO Drag E60 from SourceMore... I like the contests where you comment on post, enter 3 times answering diff questions or posting links to stuff on their site and then they do a random numb generator. There were only 85 entries... pretty decent odds when you get 3 entries. I dont have 30 social media accounts and 3000 friends to drag into entering the points contests. Noticed a bunch of "congrats" posts in my notifications so I checked and sure enough, I won. This is the second mod I've won here.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Best way to do that, I've found, is to squonk and hold the bottle in for about 8-10 seconds, then let it go, and the suction on the bottle will pull most of the excess juice back out of the deck

I sometimes do likewise squonking, not to merely interject a me 2.

 

[MyMagicMist]

This is the second mod I've won here.

"Laugh it up furball."

Not won a thing here or on ECF. Reckon if I did that bit called "play more" I might stand a better chance. Nah, I'll just not mind either way. Still got to razz ya though, that's like contractual or something.

*flips over a card on table* "Member of International Curmudgeon Union" *points to ultra fine, fine print "Must razz others."*

 

[VapeOn1960]

Still PO'd about the new Zeus coils turning to sh!t after 1 day when I used to get a month out of 1 coil.

That happened to me once (ordered stock coils from e-bay) big mistake I will never make again!

 

[VapeOn1960]

Not won a thing here or on ECF

I used to think the contests were "rigged" on ECF (always the popular people winning) Then I realized they enter so many... and then I won something... and then won another item (both crappy auto draw pods)
I don't enter contests anymore because I don't want to have to order more/different stock coils (but if it was a RTA or RDA heck yes!)

 

[Just Frank]

I entered just about every contest I could for over two years. I won so much stuff it was crazy. I used to keep a list of all the free stuff I got and it was well over 40 different items. I won just about everything: Mods, kits, subohm tanks, RDA's, RTA's, (Early) pod devices and even a nice wooden stand one time. I might've been one of the luckiest players back then. I stopped entering around the time I noticed a lot of Russian people started showing up. I suspected people were making multiple accounts as well but who knows. It was a chore to stay on top of all the rules and entries, but it payed off a lot back in the day (around 2017 through 2019).

 

[nadalama]

I entered just about every contest I could for over two years. I won so much stuff it was crazy. I used to keep a list of all the free stuff I got and it was well over 40 different items. I won just about everything: Mods, kits, subohm tanks, RDA's, RTA's, (Early) pod devices and even a nice wooden stand one time. I might've been one of the luckiest players back then. I stopped entering around the time I noticed a lot of Russian people started showing up. I suspected people were making multiple accounts as well but who knows. It was a chore to stay on top of all the rules and entries, but it payed off a lot back in the day (around 2017 through 2019).

I remember some of that time. For a while it was more surprising to hear that you hadn't won a contest than to hear that you had!

I won an RDA and some flavors from DIYFS, and I think that was about all. I never was very consistent about entering because most of the prizes just weren't things I could get excited about.

 

[MyMagicMist]

I never was very consistent about entering because most of the prizes just weren't things I could get excited about.

Notice that myself. Then, I don't do "all aflutter" over much in life generally. Part of my *pointing to head* appendix trouble.