crius or mutank or mutation mt?

[cloudyjosh]

Heya guys currently using the subtank mini and been looking to upgrade to dual coil rta these are the three I have been looking which do you think?

 

[ej1024]

Cruis,
Griffin
IMO


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[cloudyjosh]

Yeah I saw the griffin too the reviewers seemed to love it

 

[ej1024]

Im waiting for the Griffin,
Velocity style deck is the shit for the future, it just make sense... This is the year of the RTAS


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[VaperJedi]

Just recently got a Goblin Clone from Fasttech. So far, so good. Not a perfect device, but for like $9, it's definitely worth it.
Pros: tiny, good airflow, rebuilt and wicked twice with no leaking/gurgling, great flavor, price
cons: standard drip tip adapter comes loose too easy, short "stock" glass drip tip, flathead fill screw (no replacement fill screw either)

easy deck to work with for being so small. currently running a .4 ohm build in it, no dry hits or gurgles.. and I am new to it, so it seems like a solid design.

 

[Markw4mms]

I have 2 Crius' and they are a great vape except for the nagging little weeping issue at the juice flow ring. I'm also looking at the Griffin and Mutation MT.

 

[UncleMike]

crius or griffin for sure

 

[raymo2u]

Griffin or VCMT 25mm hands down....
I own all the other tanks and can honestly say all of them are lacking in capability and reliability.
Left to Right:
Crius-Aromamizer-Velocity RDA-Griffin


Biggest and Best and then Mini-Me Setup (Griffin will soon be on the Mini and VCMT on the Biggest)

 

[ej1024]

I change my mind on this
MT is the way to go... You will never get a dry hit of this tank


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[vuJim]

Until there's evidence the OBS Crius problems have actually been addressed by OBS, I would not recommend one.

Perhaps a Griffin if you're looking for a gigantic, Velocity-style build deck. Personally: I'm a flavour-chaser. I've really liked my Billow V2 Nano. I believe I looked at the Mutation stuff, and decided to give it a pass. Don't recall why. Sorry.

 

[Deeks]

I have the Mutation tank and as far as flavor and vape quality go its great. Now the downside is the odd sized post screws that strip very easily and the lackluster topfill. Its definitely made for non standard coils like claptons and stuff like that. You will not get a dry hit with this tank. I have the wicking down fine but it does still leak a bit out out of the afc when I put the top back on.

I know theres ways around it like turning the tank upside down when putting that cap back on, or u gotta stand on your head or some dumb shit. Either way its good for their first shot at RTAs but I prefer my Billow V2 for my needs and vape style

 

[cloudyjosh]

Wow don't know which to get now haha is the juice ring on crius that bad?

 

[raymo2u]

Wow don't know which to get now haha is the juice ring on crius that bad?

Buy the Griffin instead of the Crius for a flawless version thats all around better

 

[cloudyjosh]

I heard the griffin is slow at wicking? :/
"mikevapes"

 

[raymo2u]

I heard the griffin is slow at wicking? :/

From who??? Ive chain vaped at over 150w with 2x22K/42N80 Fused Claptons with it and I have yet to dryhit...Its the exact same experience as a RDA without the dripping, I dont know who said its slow wicking but Im guessing they didnt fluff their wicks or didnt wick it properly..

 

[cloudyjosh]

Mike vapes said it on his review he had claptons in there and he said it struggles to keep up that's the only thing that put me off glad you said this think I'm gonna get one

 

[JMarca]

In my honest opinion there are no other options, I own a Crius a MUTank and a Griffin. The MUTank leaks unless you use a ton of cotton the Crius leaks no matter what you use (thanks to it's poor QC) and has a small chimney. The Griffin is perfect.

PS: The Griffin keeps up just fine on claptons unless you start chain vaping one puff directly after another, give it 1-3 seconds between puffs and it does just fine.

 

[Markw4mms]

Starting to sound more and more like the Griffin is my next tank.

 

[raymo2u]

In my honest opinion there are no other options, I own a Crius a MUTank and a Griffin. The MUTank leaks unless you use a ton of cotton the Crius leaks no matter what you use (thanks to it's poor QC) and has a small chimney. The Griffin is perfect.

PS: The Griffin keeps up just fine on claptons unless you start chain vaping one puff directly after another, give it 1-3 seconds between puffs and it does just fine.

Ill post a video tonight of some chain vaping with the build I just posted It keeps up, Mike Vapes doesnt build much and cant wick to save his life.

I had to record with less then 8mb with the settings for my Camera but it could of went on forever and hits could of been atleast a second or 2 longer each but 2x22K/42N60 Fused Claptons stay hot after they ramp up. I was babying it at 110W and trying to take as any pulls as I could in less then 30 seconds, try this same thing on any other RTA...

Video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByjxYyTSvEyBV3lwd2tIbTdabG8/view?usp=sharing
Remember this is the build in it, the same exact build (One Less Wrap) in the Twisted Messes RDA in the 2nd pic in a 22mm RTA...

 

[cutevape]

In my honest opinion there are no other options, I own a Crius a MUTank and a Griffin. The MUTank leaks unless you use a ton of cotton the Crius leaks no matter what you use (thanks to it's poor QC) and has a small chimney. The Griffin is perfect.

PS: The Griffin keeps up just fine on claptons unless you start chain vaping one puff directly after another, give it 1-3 seconds between puffs and it does just fine.

Ahh I used the mutank and griffin,both of them worked very well.For your problems,share their facebook page,which said how to avoid leak.
Hope it helps you
https://www.facebook.com/Indulgence-Mutank-365939680265139/?fref=ts

 

[JMarca]

Ahh I used the mutank and griffin,both of them worked very well.For your problems,share their facebook page,which said how to avoid leak.
Hope it helps you
https://www.facebook.com/Indulgence-Mutank-365939680265139/?fref=ts

I had leaks the first day, nothing after that. The method to get that tank to stop leaking is to take a ton of cotton and stuff those juice canals (notice how I didn't say holes) full of cotton, all 4 of them! lol Also the top fill on that tank is not very good no juice control at all.

 

[Powerman]

If you have the sub tank mini, then probably the Griffin. The STM is minor league to any of these. You will more than likely have to drop your nic. Any of these are going to be a big step up to what the STM can do. I have the Crius, Griffin, and 25mm VCMT. You can forget the VCMT. It's a fire hose to what you have now. I would tell you the Crius if it wasn't for leaks. It would suit you the best for out put.

The Griffin has the biggest deck and it's super easy to build on. Just doing a moderate build will still put out way more than your STM. It's problem free, and forgiving. There is nothing wrong with juice or air flow.

 

[Powerman]

I change my mind on this
MT is the way to go... You will never get a dry hit of this tank


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I really don't know how you can say that when you don't own one. There is no tank on the market that will not dry hit. The tank isn't in charge of wicking, you are. And any wick can be out done. It's an art, not a science. Too much wick or too little will both dry hit. I don't care what you are using.

 

[JMarca]

The MT/MU Tanks by Indulgence are vastly inferior to the Griffin.. I own both the Indulgence tanks and the Griffin.

 

[ej1024]

I really don't know how you can say that when you don't own one. There is no tank on the market that will not dry hit. The tank isn't in charge of wicking, you are. And any wick can be out done. It's an art, not a science. Too much wick or too little will both dry hit. I don't care what you are using.

Ur wrong dude, wick it right
NO DRY HIT


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[ej1024]

The MT/MU Tanks by Indulgence are vastly inferior to the Griffin.. I own both the Indulgence tanks and the Griffin.

I agree 1 and 2
Griffin
MTank


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[ej1024]

I had leaks the first day, nothing after that. The method to get that tank to stop leaking is to take a ton of cotton and stuff those juice canals (notice how I didn't say holes) full of cotton, all 4 of them! lol Also the top fill on that tank is not very good no juice control at all.

U have no idea how to wick the
MUTANK
DID YOU JUST STUFF THE COTTON? LOL


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[Powerman]

Ur wrong dude, wick it right
NO DRY HIT


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Ya, wick it wrong, dry hit. Your statement was the tank can never dry hit. Patently false statement. The tank isn't magical. Any tank will dry hit. And, not only that every single tank has a limit no matter how perfectly it's wicked. Give it more power than the wick can supply, dry hit. Blanket statements to the contrary are false.

 

[ej1024]

Ya, wick it wrong, dry hit. Your statement was the tank can never dry hit. Patently false statement. The tank isn't magical. Any tank will dry hit. And, not only that every single tank has a limit no matter how perfectly it's wicked. Give it more power than the wick can supply, dry hit. Blanket statements to the contrary are false.

DUH it's a tank this ain't a dripper
.13 ohms 65 watts never a dry hit...
Use common sense man


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[Powerman]

DUH it's a tank this ain't a dripper
.13 ohms 65 watts never a dry hit...
Use common sense man


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How about don't make over the top blanket statements about tanks you don't own. And if your statement needs a qualifier, maybe you should say that. I mean there is always that. You know... Common sense stuff...

 

[ej1024]

How about don't make over the top blanket statements about tanks you don't own. And if your statement needs a qualifier, maybe you should say that. I mean there is always that. You know... Common sense stuff...

I never talk about stuff I don't own, I'm not one of those....


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[Powerman]

I thought you decided not to get one... I guess I'm not keeping up.

 

[ej1024]

I thought you decided not to get one... I guess I'm not keeping up.

Yeah man I have the MTANK for 4 days now,I haven't drip, when I say it doesn't get dry hits, what I meant was compared to the others this tanks is legit... I can do seven 3sec draw at 60 watts and never get a dry hit...
Let's wait for the Griffin let's go


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[Powerman]

Cool. Ya, you were talking about the sub ohm project. Glad that's cleared up....

Plenty have done crazy builds. But most seem to have been moderate. I know I have. Crown was a jump for me. Now all these new RTAs are stepping up. Used to be RBAs were tiny and wicking was finicky and critical. But now, all these decks can handle plenty in a wide range for most. It's nice not to worry about dry hits as much. But once people start to push these, it will be the same.

I got a dry hit on the Griffin at 50w in power mode. But that was too much wick. Juice ports are plenty big enough. I'm always in TC though so I couldn't tell you what my limit is. No burnt hits in TC, just weak vape.

 

[ej1024]

Cool. Ya, you were talking about the sub ohm project. Glad that's cleared up....

Plenty have done crazy builds. But most seem to have been moderate. I know I have. Crown was a jump for me. Now all these new RTAs are stepping up. Used to be RBAs were tiny and wicking was finicky and critical. But now, all these decks can handle plenty in a wide range for most. It's nice not to worry about dry hits as much. But once people start to push these, it will be the same.

I got a dry hit on the Griffin at 50w in power mode. But that was too much wick. Juice ports are plenty big enough. I'm always in TC though so I couldn't tell you what my limit is. No burnt hits in TC, just weak vape.

Oh shit ur not the first one I heard about the Griffin getting dry hits, if you remove that ring on the deck that will allow more juice and there's more wicking especially if u VAPE low, hmmmm interesting though... This MTSNL is out OF control!!



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[ej1024]

And The craze thing is
They came out with the new MTANK RDTA and they priced at 39.99 With velocity deck


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[Powerman]

Na, I like the ring to retain the wick ends. They are plenty big enough. Just used too much. I puts out plenty.

 

[Debbiej]

Sounds like I should get a griffin. I have an aromamizer. It leaked through air flow until I started vertical build. Wicking is an art with these things. Get dry hits when a hit it too many times in a row. Only have 10 minutes of break at work, need to puff fast lol.
After reading all this you should get a griffin and let us know how it does for you

 

[Nightowl001]

My setup is a little off topic, but it is crazy great! I have the Kangertech Subtank Mini with an IPV D2. I chain vape the RTA built at .8 Ohm and 7 to 20 watts with about 5-7 second draws. I rewick once every 1-2 weeks and might replace the coil once every few months. I get a couple of hours out of each full tank and ridiculous clouds! Everyone is just dumbfounded with this setup. I am asked if I have somehow modified this setup, or if I'm vaping at 50+ watts. When I tell them I'm at 7 watts no one believes it. The only thing is I wish it had top fill and a better air flow. I might order the newer version of the Subtank because it has multiple air flow holes. With some of the other non-RTA tanks that I have had, such as the Atlantis, I am getting bigger clouds, better flavor, and much longer times between fills with the Subtank. The Atlantis would blow through a full tank in 30 minutes!

 

[vuJim]

And The craze thing is
They came out with the new MTANK RDTA and they priced at 39.99 With velocity deck

What is a "MTANK" RDTA, please?

 

[ej1024]

What is a "MTANK" RDTA, please?

Jim the one I have is called
Mutation tank RTA
THEY HAVE A NEW ONE
CALLED MUTATION RDTA WITH VELOCITY DECK


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[JMarca]

U have no idea how to wick the
MUTANK
DID YOU JUST STUFF THE COTTON? LOL


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I have no idea how to use the tank? Funny, coming from someone who's known me less than 2 mins, you know what they say about making assumptions? YEAH...

Jim the one I have is called
Mutation tank RTA
THEY HAVE A NEW ONE
CALLED MUTATION RDTA WITH VELOCITY DECK


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WRONG... They have a new tank called the Mutank by indulgence, no where in the name is there "Mutation", also the velocity style deck doesn't come with the tank it's a separate purchase.

Review:

I find it funny how you were telling me I was building this tank wrong up above and yet you don't even know the name of the tank or the fact that it doesn't even come with a Velocity style deck. Gotta love when people speak from the butthole without every using the item in question.

 

[ej1024]

I have no idea how to use the tank? Funny, coming from someone who's known me less than 2 mins, you know what they say about making assumptions? YEAH...


WRONG... They have a new tank called the Mutank by indulgence, no where in the name is there "Mutation", also the velocity style deck doesn't come with the tank it's a separate purchase.

Review:

I find it funny how you were telling me I was building this tank wrong up above and yet you don't even know the name of the tank or the fact that it doesn't even come with a Velocity style deck. Gotta love when people speak from the butthole without every using the item in question.

They have 3 types of tanks?
The original MTANK WHICH I HAVE
THE MUTATION SUBOHM TANK WITH THE OPTION OF PRE BUILS COIL LIKE THE THE ONE YOU POST
AND THE BRAND NEW MTANK RDTA, it comes with the velocity deck
I said it before,my butthole doesn't talk about shit I don't use...

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[JMarca]

AND THE BRAND NEW MTANK RDTA, it comes with the velocity deck

Care to link to this mysterious MTank?
The only 2 RTAs (not to be confused with RDA) they have is the old MT and the MU being the new one. the velocity style deck is a separate purchase doesn't come with one, searched all over google, what MTank?

This is sold separately:
https://originvape.com/product/indulgence-mutank-velocity-rta-deck/

Never heard of an MTank care to link?

 

[ej1024]

Care to link to this mysterious MTank?
The only 2 RTAs they have is the old MT and the MU being the new one. the velocity style deck is a separate purchase doesn't come with one, searched all over google, what MTank?

This is sold separately:
https://originvape.com/product/indulgence-mutank-velocity-rta-deck/

Never heard of an MTank care to link?

According to t vapor DNA , The MTANK RDTA velocity deck is not up yet, but they have it for 39,99 I didn't buy it,
Yes u are correct the velocity deck is a separate purchase for the MUTATION SUB OHM TANK
The original is the MUTANK quad post AND THATS THE ONe I posted



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[JMarca]

According to t vapor DNA , The MTANK RDTA is not up yet, but they have it for 39,99 I didn't buy it,
Yes u are correct the velocity deck is a separate purchase for the MUTATION SUB OHM TANK,
The original is the MUTANK AND THATS THE ONe I posted


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Ah, so it's a magical device that can't be seen online and not posted on any website on the internet, but you got to hold one... gotcha.
PS: The MT what you call the "old tank" was also a sub ohm tank. The only difference is one has dual fill holes and the deck is different, that's all indulgence makes besides the Mutation drippers.

New and old side by side:

 

[ej1024]

Ah, so it's a magical device that can't be seen online and not posted on any website on the internet, but you got to hold one... gotcha.
PS: The MT what you call the "old tank" was also a sub ohm tank. The only difference is one has dual fill holes and the deck is different, that's all indulgence makes besides the Mutation drippers.

New and old side by side:

There's nothing magical, just wait for it , it should come out pretty soon, btw they gonna have an event at the new vapor DNA HB branch,if u in OC Orange County ca stop by ask for the tank.... They will show it to you...
M tank is the original/ 4 post deck
Mutation sub ohm tank/ optional velocity deck 9 bucks additional
Then the mutation tank RDTA... Came out 3days ago... Vapor DNA and indulgence are like best friends, they are excludive WITH Vapor DNA..
Are YOU even aware OF projection sub ohm?
Mutation series?
That's all vapor DNA!!
Btw ur photo SUCKS


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[JMarca]

There's nothing magical, just wait for it , it should come out pretty soon, btw they gonna have an event at the new vapor DNA HB branch,if u in OC Orange County ca stop by ask for the tank.... They will show it to you...
M tank is the original/ 4 post deck
Mutation sub ohm tank/ optional velocity deck 9 bucks additional
Then the mutation tank RDTA... Came out 3days ago... Vapor DNA and indulgence are like best friends, they are excludive WITH Vapor DNA..
Are YOU even aware OF projection sub ohm?
Mutation series?
That's all vapor DNA!!
Btw ur photo SUCKS


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Project Sub Ohm is the gimmick VaporDNA uses to re-brand other people's stuff and pretend it's something special, yes I'm aware.
NO, Indulgence is FAR from exclusive to Vapor DNA in fact every Indulgence product I've ever owned was bought somewhere else.

For the record if you buy enough quantities of anything China will be more than happy to slap any logo you want on a product.

 

[ej1024]

Project Sub Ohm is the gimmick VaporDNA uses to re-brand other people's stuff and pretend it's something special, yes I'm aware.
NO, Indulgence is FAR from exclusive to Vapor DNA in fact every Indulgence product I've ever owned was bought somewhere else.
Gimmick/branding it's all about money, and I believe after the government regulation bull shit vapor DNA is the only one that will be standing...


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[JMarca]

I believe after the government regulation bull shit vapor DNA is the only one that will be standing...

ROTFL... Vapor DNA going to use their mystical powers or are they going to hire Larry the cable guy to put on a project sub ohm costume so they'll be taken more seriously? LOL

The only ones who are going to be left standing are China because they're immune to US law, Vapor DNA isn't god, lol fanboy/girl much?