Dimitri Box Mod.

[Breeezy]

I just picked one up and I'm a little confused. Is it technically series? I have a .08 build in it and it hits like every cloud chasers wet dream. I'm just trying to figure out about how many watts that puts me at. Would it technically be 8 volts on a full charge? (Adding the slight voltage drop) in a perfect world that would be like hella watts. Anyone know if that's how it works? Or is it 4.2 watts? Hurting my head trying to figure this out. Thanks.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

Wattage is calculated by squaring the voltage and dividing it by the ohm rating. Therefore, if you are truly running a 0.08 Ohm Coil at 8 volts that is 800 Watts and 100 amps. I would be careful running that high of power. No batteries are rated to drain at that rate. There is also a app for android phones called Vapers Toolbox. Works wonderfully will tell you how to build your coils and how much wattage and amps you are running.

 

[BoomStick]

Batteries are in parallel so 4.2 volts. You can use one or two batteries.
Btw- .08 is pretty fucking stupid for someone who doesn't even know what kind of voltage they're applying to the load. Rude but honest.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

Yeah that changes things. At 800 watts cotton would instantly catch fire and battery's would fry.

 

[BoomStick]

It's still around 200watts. Pretty ballsy for someone who doesn't even know how their mod works.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

Yeah breeezy, You should do some more studying on electricity and coil building before you hurt yourself or your mod.

 

[Breeezy]

Calm your tits. I know how it works. My battery's don't even get warm... It's half the load of my regular mech mods so if you're just here to be assholes don't need that. I wanted someone with knowledge of the dimitri not try hards to try to tell me I don't know shit.

Someone with actual info on the dimitri please.

 

[BoomStick]

Forget it.

 

[BoomStick]

Calm your tits. I know how it works. My battery's don't even get warm... It's half the load of my regular mech mods so if you're just here to be assholes don't need that. I wanted someone with knowledge of the dimitri not try hards to try to tell me I don't know shit.

Someone with actual info on the dimitri please.

You normally vape at 400 watts? You know what you're doing, but don't know if your mod is series or parallel? Go ahead and blow your face off. Goodbye.

 

[Breeezy]

Either way it's not gonna blow up. But thanks for your uselessness.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

I don't want to be a dick. I'm simply saying that running at 0.08 is 200 watts and 50 amps. That splits the amperage between two batteries 25 per battery. This is pushing the limits of the battery. It is okay for something just to mess around with but you don't want to be running this build a lot.

 

[Breeezy]

Half the load of my mech mod per battery either way.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

It wont blow up persay. But, when you short a lithium ion battery such as is in your vape. They will catch fire and once you short them they wont stop.

 

[Breeezy]

Not even close to pushing the limits. Sony vtc4's and MXJOs. Not like I hold it down for 5 minutes. It's for maybe a 8 second rip.

 

[BoomStick]

Useless? I had to tell you your mod is parallel. Gloves off. You are a fucking idiot. Have a nice day asshole.

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

When building coils you should always do research on the drain limits of the battery. And i know on efest batterys they claim 35a on the battery but they are truly only 20a continuous. So when you are building a coil never build it to draw more than the battery can safely supply even if the batterys aren't getting warm. Try www.steam-engine.org

 

[Northern Michigan Mods]

Useless? I had to tell you your mod is parallel. Gloves off. You are a fucking idiot. Have a nice day asshole.

Theres no need to get angry here. STAY CALM AND VAPE ON MAN.

 

[Sully]

http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php

Put in your resistance (ohms) and your voltage and hit calculate.

 

[Breeezy]

Yo northern your messages were actually helpful

 

[Rommel]

I don't want to be a dick. I'm simply saying that running at 0.08 is 200 watts and 50 amps. That splits the amperage between two batteries 25 per battery. This is pushing the limits of the battery. It is okay for something just to mess around with but you don't want to be running this build a lot.

Thats not pushing any limits. No man ever has had their batteries vent with 0.08 build and the load split to two batteries with 30 amp continuos rating. Continuos rating means quite literally that you can keep the button down safely until the batteries are depleted. Sonys can pulse at 60 amps for a whole minute, so i say that few second pulls with 0.08 even with a single battery is safe. This whole caution thing is great, but sometimes it gets blown waaaay out of proportion.

 

[BoomStick]

Thats not pushing any limits. No man ever has had their batteries vent with 0.08 build and the load split to two batteries with 30 amp continuos rating. Continuos rating means quite literally that you can keep the button down safely until the batteries are depleted. Sonys can pulse at 60 amps for a whole minute, so i say that few second pulls with 0.08 even with a single battery is safe. This whole caution thing is great, but sometimes it gets blown waaaay out of proportion.

Completely agree. Firing that build on a dual battery mech before series or parallel battery configuration is known is not safe.

 

[freemind]

This is an issue in the vape community. Too many people jumping in using/buying devices they don't understand.

Mini sticks of explosives, in those batteries. You should NOT be using a device, if you are clueless from the start, if batts are parallel or series.

Horse before the cart, please.

 

[BigNasty]

@freemind Why I call those mobile Darwin award winners yet to come.

 

[CloudPusher]

In parallel the Amps are doubled up because the load is put on two batts instead of one. And the volt drop is less because you have less batt sag with two batteries pushing the volts instead of one. So at 20 or 25amps continuous ratings you have a 40 or 50amp limit. On pulse... well it could be from 60 up to 100 or more amps depending on the battery’s you are using. So this is why dual battery(or more) setups hit harder. The more batteries in parallel. the more volts you will get hitting the atty. Waiting on my Dimiti to hit the mailbox. I'm excited. It's a clone but whatever. It's a full mech box mod, woohoo!

Btw, make sure your battery's are married in sets and you rotate them after each charge. Battery A goes in left side... charge... Battery A goes in right side. Venting happens the most when battery's were not married and used only for that mod.

Happy vaping!!!

 

[BigNasty]

Seriously I hope the contacts and switch do not fail and weld in open position on a .08 build.
It will get fucky faster than you can react.

 

[freemind]

In parallel the Amps are doubled up because the load is put on two batts instead of one. And the volt drop is less because you have less batt sag with two batteries pushing the volts instead of one. So at 20 or 25amps continuous ratings you have a 40 or 50amp limit. On pulse... well it could be from 60 up to 100 or more amps depending on the battery’s you are using. So this is why dual battery(or more) setups hit harder. The more batteries in parallel. the more volts you will get hitting the atty. Waiting on my Dimiti to hit the mailbox. I'm excited. It's a clone but whatever. It's a full mech box mod, woohoo!

Btw, make sure your battery's are married in sets and you rotate them after each charge. Battery A goes in left side... charge... Battery A goes in right side. Venting happens the most when battery's were not married and used only for that mod.

Happy vaping!!!

Just curious... Why marry bats in parallel? Ina series, I understand. Why parallel?

 

[CloudPusher]

Seriously I hope the contacts and switch do not fail and weld in open position on a .08 build.
It will get fucky faster than you can react.

They wont(not with this mod). Please don't tell me we are becoming like that other forum. Just give some helpful, knowledgeable info and stop being dicks about it. I'm not specifically talking to you BigNasty. But many subohm headz like to push the limits AND know what they are doing.

 

[BigNasty]

Just curious... Why marry bats in parallel? Ina series, I understand. Why parallel?

Discharge rates. think of it as battery memory.

@CloudPusher no worries but it is alarming the amount of shops pumping out builds for people and neither have a clue. better to stay safe and vape than earn a darwin award.

 

[freemind]

Discharge rates. think of it as battery memory.

Discharge rates? In parallel batts are drained equally at the same time. Just like a single bat in a mech.

I don't marry bats to a particular mech, nor do I marry bats to parallel boxes.

In a series, I understand rotation and marriage of batts.

 

[CloudPusher]

Just curious... Why marry bats in parallel? Ina series, I understand. Why parallel?

It does not matter if it is in series or parallel... when you start mixing batteries, the chemistry becomes a mixed bag and makes the weakest link get more stressed than the other. This is battery use 101. Even with devices that use regular Lithium Ion Batteries have that on a label somewhere not to mix batteries when in use. Basically it creates an imbalance and unnecessary stress.

 

[BoomStick]

Just curious... Why marry bats in parallel? Ina series, I understand. Why parallel?

Not as important in parallel, but still a good idea. Here's what battery university says.
"A high-resistance cell, or one that is open, is less critical in a parallel circuit than in serial configuration, however, a weak cell reduces the total load capability. It’s like an engine that fires on only three cylinders instead of all four. An electrical short, on the other hand, could be devastating because the faulty cell would drain energy from the other cells, causing a fire hazard. Most so-called shorts are of mild nature and manifest themselves in elevated self-discharge."

3v and 4v still have a difference in potential of 1v. I'd imagine not using matched cells is hard on them and probably reduces overall battery life. It's a good point to bring up and maybe a battery expert will come along and provide a more definitive explanation.

 

[CloudPusher]

Discharge rates? In parallel batts are drained equally at the same time. Just like a single bat in a mech.

I don't marry bats to a particular mech, nor do I marry bats to parallel boxes.

In a series, I understand rotation and marriage of batts.

Example: If you have two of the same brand batteries but decide to use one in a tube mech one day and then use them both back in your box mod, you now effectively have one weaker battery in your box next to the other. Because of battery cycle life’s. One has been used for a cycle longer than the other(rendering it weaker). This creates imbalance and extra stress on the batteries. This is the MOST common cause for battery leaks and venting. Especially when using higher power devices drawing more amps.

 

[CloudPusher]

Discharge rates. think of it as battery memory.

@CloudPusher no worries but it is alarming the amount of shops pumping out builds for people and neither have a clue. better to stay safe and vape than earn a darwin award.

That is true. I talked to a local shop here and they said they cant even talk about building sub ohm coils without paying more for insurance. I'm not sure what the best rout would be for box mod builders. Some kind of testing cert. for safest draw current allowed from a test lab required? Most people who buy mods for sub ohm builds know what to look for in a mod build for safety. Some even have two Mosfet's in them these days. I would not buy a mod from a random builder on ebay for example. But there are some great builders who only sell through facebook and are in facebook groups that are vouched for. The thing is... no matter what it may be, a chainsaw or gun... there will always be idiots out there doing stupid shit. It's the circle of life, lol. The smarter ones will always know better. Knowledge IS power.

 

[Rommel]

Seriously I hope the contacts and switch do not fail and weld in open position on a .08 build.
It will get fucky faster than you can react.

Propably not. Two Sonys in parallel should be able to handle that.

 

[churhahn]

I have a dimitri box mod. I lost the spring to that pushes down the button, anyone know what kind of spring i need? Please let me know

 

[Xhalin]

Enjoy your Dimitri... I love mine- lowest I've gone was like .3ohms... Came out to about 75 watts I believe after calculating it... I use Samsungs to push mine. At 75 watts the clouds were hellacious- could not imagine a .08 build!

 

[Sin]

Been vaping mine for about 8 months and have a 500 plus watt 20g build at .12, so this all seems like pointless arguing, attack marlboro if your mad bro. As for an explanation, its simply the best mechbox for its price. The Dims made it out of an aluminum shell with (get this) gold plated button and silver negatives below both 40 amp batteries, red copper on top and around the 510 connector. I mean the fuse is god damn copper coated in even more gold and then silver.

 

[Sin]

I have a dimitri box mod. I lost the spring to that pushes down the button, anyone know what kind of spring i need? Please let me know

http://www.evike.com/products/47478/
Try this, been on mine so long I wore it out.

 

[Dmoney!]

I just picked one up

Useless? I had to tell you your mod is parallel. Gloves off. You are a fucking idiot. Have a nice day asshole.

I like how he's telling us to calm down when he doesn't even know if his mod is series or parallel. What a fucking idiot. If his box was series at .08 he wouldn't have a fucking face anymore. Give this man a darwin award for the love of god

 

[BoomStick]

Been vaping mine for about 8 months and have a 500 plus watt 20g build at .12, so this all seems like pointless arguing, attack marlboro if your mad bro. As for an explanation, its simply the best mechbox for its price. The Dims made it out of an aluminum shell with (get this) gold plated button and silver negatives below both 40 amp batteries, red copper on top and around the 510 connector. I mean the fuse is god damn copper coated in even more gold and then silver.

Pulling over 60 amps from 20 amp cells that you think are really 40 amp cells when there's no such thing huh?

 

[Dmoney!]

Been vaping mine for about 8 months and have a 500 plus watt 20g build at .12, so this all seems like pointless arguing, attack marlboro if your mad bro. As for an explanation, its simply the best mechbox for its price. The Dims made it out of an aluminum shell with (get this) gold plated button and silver negatives below both 40 amp batteries, red copper on top and around the 510 connector. I mean the fuse is god damn copper coated in even more gold and then silver.

You honestly belive your batteries have a 40 amp discharge rate? No battery I have ever seen tested pulls above 30. how you manage to pull 400 watts on a .12 build mystify's me

 

[BoomStick]

You honestly belive your batteries have a 40 amp discharge rate? No battery I have ever seen tested pulls above 30. how you manage to pull 400 watts on a .12 build mystify's me

Some places on the Internet say it's series, some say parallel. Series voltage puts .12 way high in power. Parallel voltage isn't nearly as high. Pictures seem to indicate parallel and so does comfortably vaping a .12 build. No way he's applying 8v to that build and not overheating something.

 

[Dmoney!]

Some places on the Internet say it's series, some say parallel. Series voltage puts .12 way high in power. Parallel voltage isn't nearly as high. Pictures seem to indicate parallel and so does comfortably vaping a .12 build. No way he's applying 8v to that build and not overheating something.

If he's talking about the dimitri it's definitely parallel I have an authentic one and I never build lower then .15 and the vape is perfect for me. If it was series I wouldnt go lower then .5 Why build .12 when you think your box is series? Why!!?? At least you have some brains boom lol