Help I've been trying to make my own but every receptor I tri always turns out sweet as hell does this die down after steeping ?
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Well yes thanks for getting back I did a fireballs one on a 70-30 vg-pg mix 6mg nic in a 10 ml bottle was told to use no more than 1.5 mill of flavour in the mix which I did nothing else but my vg of nic and one flavour at 1.5ml for a 10ml bottle flavour from fa the only one I've done that's sort of ok was lemonade pink and was the same figures I love vapeing the hobbie has got me hooked hope this helps you help me
1.5ml PG
5.7ml VG
0.8ml nicotine
Vanilla custard 0.9ml
Vanillqa Bean Gelato 0.6ml
Bavarian Cream 0.3ml
Ethyl Maltol 0.2ml
This was a vanilla custard one too far too sweet but this was only done sat do flavours die down thanks ?
5.7ml VG
0.8ml nicotine
Vanilla custard 0.9ml
Vanillqa Bean Gelato 0.6ml
Bavarian Cream 0.3ml
Ethyl Maltol 0.2ml
This was a vanilla custard one too far too sweet but this was only done sat do flavours die down thanks ?
That's 20% flavoring, which is pretty high. If it's too sweet I'd omit the EM. And I'd probably drop the overall percentage of flavoring down from 20% to 10% and work up from there 1% at a time.
Ps sorry pg-vg I'm new !!!
Thanks Amanda this vapeing is a bug I only started this Saturday making my own only found a few flavours of premium that I like in shops ,it's a lot harder than it looks !!!! I will not be beat tho I can work it out in ml but the % is hard do you have any good sites I could talk on or find good recepies or do you have a favourite I could try again thanks Iain .
We have a fabulous recipe section in this forum - and a whole section on how to DIY
I'm pretty permanently hooked on @HeadInClouds recipes - you can find some in the forums, and some really good ones here: http://www.hicsmixes.com/ I've been vaping the Gooey coconut cookies from that site for months!
again thanks for the help I'm in Scotland and our flavour range is rubbish compaired to the states !!!! But I'll give it a go what is gooie coconut like ?
There are e-juice calculators for that, e. g. http://e-liquid-recipes.com
Thanks nuren can't believe the help I have had already thanks folks happy man !!!
Jimi ace scared tiger laptop out illne on all night lol can't believe the help already vapeing is becoming massive in the uk just wish the flavour range would get better in the premium range I've lost count of bottles I've tried got 3 favourites dopamine,pink man ,Heisenberg but the rest are just plain to me the flavours you hear about in the states blows my mind !!!!!
Scared to take laptop out lol
Also if there are anything I can help with flavours from uk ask if help if I can folks
Ethyl Maltol is basically sugar. It's cotton candy flavor.
I use it as a sweetener in a lot of my liquids since I like sweet stuff.
Eliminate that and your juice wont be as sweet.
Bavarian Cream is pretty sweet as well.
But removing/reducing that will effect the flavor of the mix.
Could try out mixing it with less Bavarian Cream to see how it tastes, then add more if the flavor isn't as good.
I use it as a sweetener in a lot of my liquids since I like sweet stuff.
Eliminate that and your juice wont be as sweet.
Bavarian Cream is pretty sweet as well.
But removing/reducing that will effect the flavor of the mix.
Could try out mixing it with less Bavarian Cream to see how it tastes, then add more if the flavor isn't as good.
I've got a few links that might help in your DIY,
UK
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboar...-vendors-discount-codes?page=1&scrollTo=23191
UK Flavor
http://ukvapers.org/Thread-List-of-flavour-concentrate-suppliers
Good luck
UK
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboar...-vendors-discount-codes?page=1&scrollTo=23191
UK Flavor
http://ukvapers.org/Thread-List-of-flavour-concentrate-suppliers
Good luck
Thanks not giving up that's for sure just need to keep trying till I get it right !!!!
Hmm...these don't sound like Flavour Art (FA) offerings, at least not ones we get stateside. If they are, 15 percent is way too much - the strongest FA recipes go maybe to 10 percent, most of mine are under 8. Could be you have Flavor West, I think they make flavors like that and the percentages wouldn't be out of line, but I don't have much experience with those.
Like has been said, the DIY subforums right here are some of the best on the Web - take a look around and you're sure to find some interesting recipes.
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Thanks ob they are from a company called make my Vape and the flavourings are the flavour apprentice,flavour west ,Capella
Okay, that helps...for your reference, you'll see these names a lot when it comes to concentrate manufacturers:
FA - Flavour Art - generally the highest-rated of the popular flavor companies
CAP - Capella's - also many good flavors, not as strong as FA
TFA - The Flavor Apprentice - see CAP notes
FW - Flavor West - a lower-end supplier, some like them while many think they're crap - I personally think most of their line is garbage, but that Skittles flavor you're got is actually excellent at 10% with 1% TFA Sour added
If you notice I bounce around with my spellings it's because FA is an Italian company and their name translates using British English, the other two are American firms and we've never acknowledged the presence of a 'u' in 'flavor.'
FA - Flavour Art - generally the highest-rated of the popular flavor companies
CAP - Capella's - also many good flavors, not as strong as FA
TFA - The Flavor Apprentice - see CAP notes
FW - Flavor West - a lower-end supplier, some like them while many think they're crap - I personally think most of their line is garbage, but that Skittles flavor you're got is actually excellent at 10% with 1% TFA Sour added
If you notice I bounce around with my spellings it's because FA is an Italian company and their name translates using British English, the other two are American firms and we've never acknowledged the presence of a 'u' in 'flavor.'
I wish it was only spelling I had the problem with !!! I made a fire ball flavour and the sweetness blew my mouth off then the donut strawberry had no flavour at all !!! Pink lemonade was ok nothing to write about I've ordered more flavours the uk market for premium liquid is poor and very expensive to import from the states this forum is brilliant can't believe the help I've got already one thing about being Scottish and same as the Americans we never give up !!!! Will go again till I get it again thanks for the help will need to find charts that tell me % that will work !!!
It's the flavour apprentice cinnamon red hots was told put in 1.5 ml per 10ml if this helps 20pg80vg smells great but wow was it sweet what time is it where you are thanks ?
Okay, so you're using TFA at 15% - I'd have figured that would be more of a spicy vape than sweet...
Here's a somewhat-helpful list of what a bunch of other mixers are using flavors at - notice on here they're referring to TFA as Perfumer's Apprentice (which is what the company used to be called before they split their scent and flavoring concentrate businesses and began marketing them separately).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agXdua8bEp8MV4z1mn3qX4AXCS4P0RxQXcy2lDa7ccc/pub?gid=0#
I'm on Pacific Standard Time, it's just before 12:30 in California and time for me to go grab a burrito...
Here's a somewhat-helpful list of what a bunch of other mixers are using flavors at - notice on here they're referring to TFA as Perfumer's Apprentice (which is what the company used to be called before they split their scent and flavoring concentrate businesses and began marketing them separately).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1agXdua8bEp8MV4z1mn3qX4AXCS4P0RxQXcy2lDa7ccc/pub?gid=0#
I'm on Pacific Standard Time, it's just before 12:30 in California and time for me to go grab a burrito...
Well my man this ain't easy lol and to top it off its freezing cold and snowing in Scotland lol Dave just can't seem to get the flavours like the ones I buy now I know if it was that easy we would all have our own flavours for sale but dam it ain't easy cheered my self up tho bought a new rda thanks for all the help again what are your best flavours do you get dopamine in the states pink man and sharks blood are popular over here ? It's 9.30 at night here lol
Also I looked at the chart don't take the Mick but say I wanted too use a few flavours would they all be used at the said % ? And what's the max % you would advise per mix ?
I'd say it may be better to browse through the recipes posted here to get an example of what we use around here.
And VG is also sweeter than PG, so it may have some impact on sweetness.
You might be more sensitive to the "sweet taste" than others too.
Probably should try some of the more tart citrus types like, Lemon, Lime, Orange, etc.
And VG is also sweeter than PG, so it may have some impact on sweetness.
You might be more sensitive to the "sweet taste" than others too.
Probably should try some of the more tart citrus types like, Lemon, Lime, Orange, etc.
Many thanks
Mate just frustrating lol but I suppose I'll be buzzing when I get my one right
Mate just frustrating lol but I suppose I'll be buzzing when I get my one right
Here's an idea, if you've got a dripping atomizer try vaping a bit of unflavored VG, then unflavored PG - it'll help you to understand what your bases taste like, and it could help you decide if they're the source of this excess sweetness you're having trouble with. I suspect it could be the VG, which is a bit naturally sweet on its own.
I'll second @Heabob - take a look around the recipe threads here in DIY and see what you find that sounds appealing. Unfortunately I wouldn't even know if any of those flavors exist here, I haven't vaped vendor juice in over a year unless someone's given me a bottle they're trying to get help cloning...
For FA flavors, I'd try to keep a recipe under 10% total - other suppliers you might go as high as 20% flavoring, but still under 15% most of the time. The weird (and frustrating) thing about trying to find a flavor's range is that they start fading as you use too much, just the same as if you'd used too little.
I'll second @Heabob - take a look around the recipe threads here in DIY and see what you find that sounds appealing. Unfortunately I wouldn't even know if any of those flavors exist here, I haven't vaped vendor juice in over a year unless someone's given me a bottle they're trying to get help cloning...
For FA flavors, I'd try to keep a recipe under 10% total - other suppliers you might go as high as 20% flavoring, but still under 15% most of the time. The weird (and frustrating) thing about trying to find a flavor's range is that they start fading as you use too much, just the same as if you'd used too little.
Going to have too try something tried a blueberry donut tonight but no nothing no taste bland but I will get one I'm not giving up I've ordered more concentrate so will plod on and if you've made your own juice for that long must be good at it you looking for an apentise !!!
TFA Blueberry Wild may have to go up to 10%, but I've lowered this to 5% and still tastes good.
FW Blueberry & CAP Blueberry start with 5-7%.
Add CAP Glazed Doughnut also 5-7%, (needs to steep for 3 days min, as do many of the CAP flavors)
Or use 5% CAP Greek Yogurt instead for a sour Blueberry Yogurt.
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See when you guys talk about the % are they set at a set one so we get the flavour if so for example if I went by the chart would they all be set at there own % then worked out by the % of the recepies ? Guys I just need that one bit of light at the end of the tunnel !!! Again thanks for your help
Also ob can you email me I would like too send you a bottle of dopamine and pink man they are uk best sellers just so you can see what we are limited too on shop shelves I will upload pics today of our shop you will get a giggle !!!
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There are very few rules here, esstyaberdeen, and I'm not a board cop or anyone, really, but I'd urge you take a peek at them. It takes less than a minute to read them all.
ETA- Am I misunderstanding? Are these flavorings?
There are very few rules here, esstyaberdeen, and I'm not a board cop or anyone, really, but I'd urge you take a peek at them. It takes less than a minute to read them all.
ETA- Am I misunderstanding? Are these flavorings?
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Yes and no.
The percent is in relation to the total volume being mixed
Doesn't matter if your mixing 10ml or 100ml, 2% of a flavor will still be 2%.
But, the physical amount of flavor will change depending on the total volume.
2% of 10ml is 0.2ml flavoring, whereas 2% of 100ml is 2ml of flavoring.
You could use a chart for %s if you were only using a single flavor in a mix. But not when combining flavors.
When combining them, you need to reduce the flavoring in varying amounts depending on how dominant that flavor needs to be. This way they can blend nicely and not have a drastically over flavored end product or only a few flavors being tasted. Plus, you may need to adjust flavoring based on how much you like or hate that flavor.
Flavor percentages must be adjusted to allow them to blend when combining:
FW Natural Tangerine @ 5% is good by itself
FW Cotton Candy @ 2% is good by itself
FW Blueberry @ 3% is good by itself.
Making a Tangerine Blueberry Cotton Candy using those percentages would result in 10% flavoring. Which, honestly isn't bad for FW flavoring. However, the Tangerine and Blueberry would mix and become a dominant flavor, with the citrusy Tangerine being a bit stronger. Cotton Candy is a subtle flavor and easily over powered when combined with other flavors, so you wont get much (if any) cotton candy taste out of that mix, but it will make it taste sweeter. To counter this you would need to increase the percentage of the cotton candy and/or reduce the percentages of the tangerine and Blueberry so the 2 fruits blend nicely yet still leave a cotton candy taste.
Flavor percentages must be reduced when combining or the end product can become ridiculously over flavored:
Some recipes have 10 flavors.
While each my be good standalone at 3-5%, if you were to use that percentage for each of the 10 flavors in the recipe, you'd end up with 30-50% flavoring. lol
Flavor percentages also depend on your personal preference:
I like FW Natural Tangerine by itself at 5%. Somebody else might like it better at 3% or 10%.
I can't stand FA Catalan Cream. So I don't use it in any of my home made recipes, and I don't include it when mixing recipes found online (like HICs recipes). But, I will sometimes increase or add Vienna Cream, Fresh Cream, Cotton Candy, or Marshmallow. Simply because I really like what those flavors bring to mixes.
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That makes perfect sence to me and many thanks for the break down its greatly appreciated .sailcat yes they are flavours made up and cost a penny but they make up my Vape in short they are concentrates if I have broke any rules for that I'm sorry if it looked like I was trying to make money in anyway I can asure you I am not I live in the uk work for myself and vapeing is hobbie that I love was simply looking for advice I've also only been on site a week but rest assured I will not be asking again .
hebob I just seen that you sent recipe many thanks I am home from site tonight so will try it out thank you .
Would like to thank all you guys for your help I also got myself a ultrasonic bath and I have made myself 4x 50 ml bottles of the best juice I have had took me ages to get them spot on add a little and giving them a proper steep then airing them I have the bug now !!! So again many thanks folks I am away thanks to lots of help brilliant site and can't thank you all enough