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Because most people even if they they

I believe I answered that already.
And I don't think you are feeble minded or a schlub...Cheers!
did they teach you how to form a coherent thought at the university what is.....because most people even if they they ......supposed to mean
 

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and despite ISIS openly saying that they were going to plant fighters among the so called immigrants.It would be like Hitler saying OK America we are going to plant special forces units of the SS in with this boatload of jews and with the same passports...but if you don't take this boatload you're anti semetic.
 

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Because most people even if they they

I believe I answered that already.
And I don't think you are feeble minded or a schlub...Cheers!
You did, youre badically saying we need to let them in otherwise we are racist.
So youre choosing not being racist at the risk of letting terrorist come blow shit up and kill people over waiting and closing the door for a while and establish a system of checks and balances then reopening the door?
is that correct?
 

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It wouldn't be smart...However treating people with respect might go quite a long way towards stopping all the hate.
OK we have a winner for the stupidest utterance on this thread ding ding ding........all it took was a Phd.
 

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It wouldn't be smart...However treating people with respect might go quite a long way towards stopping all the hate.
ok, I think I see your standpoint.... but as a theologian you know they are going to want to kill non-Muslims no matter what just because that's what ala said to do. in their world you kill all infidels, no matter age or gender.
So trat their hatered with tolerance is like being a duck in a barrel
 

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and despite ISIS openly saying that they were going to plant fighters among the so called immigrants.It would be like Hitler saying OK America we are going to plant special forces units of the SS in with this boatload of jews and with the same passports...but if you don't take this boatload you're anti semetic.
Well at least we know their plan now maybe we should do something about that.
Like secure our borders properly...That'd be a great place to start.But we do have to do it right.And not base it on race,religion, or anything else.
Just make it almost impossible for anything to get in without complete documentation.
 

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Well Doc. how about we don't let anybody in until they are vetted for like say 5 years. You say your a theologian and you don't see the glaring diffrence between the teachings of Christ and the Buddha and the teachings of Momo.
and really Doc what kind of asinine remark is...treating people with respect might go a long way toward stopping the hate.....
 

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yeah I know a few felons they are twice the men you'll ever be I'd trust them with my childs life...funny you villify someone who committed a non violent crime and paid their dues, but you welcome a boatload of people who you know conatians murderers.....yeah so much for your Phd.....I gues it doesn't take alot of brains to get a Phd in theology.
Once again your reading more into what I said than what I actually said.
Please pay attention.
 

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If you were following what I was saying you'd get what I meant.
Nice poster though in it's time and place.

No. I don't get what your saying. The race card, claims of bigotry and such are never useful tools for dialog. It's usually a refusal by one side to consider the arguments of the other. I thought to answer your question about how it's not racist but the race card has given you the win. It's impossible to argue against. The person that played it simply re-plays the card over and over. You win. It's the most despicable method of debate I can think of but it does accomplish your goal. There isn't anything else to discuss.
 

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did they teach you how to form a coherent thought at the university what is.....because most people even if they they ......supposed to mean
Reread that post and you'll know why it doesn't make much sense.
I swear my cat has either an awesome sense of humor...Or just hates me.
 

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Taliban USA
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Don't believe everything u see on ur big screen
Knowledge is power
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Really Ivan.....Stalin displaced 75% of the people of chechnia and spread them thoughout the USSR and filled it full of ethnic russians....and you think the chechnians are cool with that.
 

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You did, youre badically saying we need to let them in otherwise we are racist.
So youre choosing not being racist at the risk of letting terrorist come blow shit up and kill people over waiting and closing the door for a while and establish a system of checks and balances then reopening the door?
is that correct?
Actually I'd love to just close the door completely for at least 10 - 25 years.
That way we can build up our military,infrastructure, and schools.
 

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Actually I'd love to just close the door completely for at least 10 - 25 years.
That way we can build up our military,infrastructure, and schools.
So youre debating this for the sake of debating
 

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ok, I think I see your standpoint....
Thank you
but as a theologian you know they are going to want to kill non-Muslims no matter what just because that's what ala said to do. in their world you kill all infidels, no matter age or gender.
Allah never said any of those things.The people behind these attacks are perverting his teachings.
So trat their hatered with tolerance is like being a duck in a barrel.
There's a difference between kindness and weakness,and I'm pretty sure you meant fish not ducks.
Quack quack.
 

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Countries aren't religious the people that live in them are.
Oh and banning them from entry based solely on their religion = Unconstitutional.

You may want to read my post carefully. I never said they would be prohibited entry based on their religion...
 

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Taliban USA
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Stupidity is weakness



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really ..this from someone living in one of the most repressive goverments on the planet a country whose control over books and thought were so draconian the only book in russia was the phone book...how are the pussycats doing in prison...
although I do admitt I'd love to go fishing in Kamkatchka.
 
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you are simply lying now ...Momo was a violent man there is no way around the story of his life compared to the words and life of the buddha and the christ...
 

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Well Doc. how about we don't let anybody in until they are vetted for like say 5 years. You say your a theologian and you don't see the glaring diffrence between the teachings of Christ and the Buddha and the teachings of Momo.
and really Doc what kind of asinine remark is...treating people with respect might go a long way toward stopping the hate.....
Please just call me "Snake"
It'd be easier just to give the border patrol back it's teeth.
As for the Christ/Buddha question in essence they had similar teachings if you NEED/WANT more in detail information.I suggest going to a church or temple near you.
I never thought obeying the golden rule was asinine.I know in a harsh modern world it might be thought of as naive or antiquated.But asinine? Never.
 

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The biggest problem is the 'radicals' aren't radical at all. They are devout...
 

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No. I don't get what your saying. The race card, claims of bigotry and such are never useful tools for dialog. It's usually a refusal by one side to consider the arguments of the other. I thought to answer your question about how it's not racist but the race card has given you the win. It's impossible to argue against. The person that played it simply re-plays the card over and over. You win. It's the most despicable method of debate I can think of but it does accomplish your goal. There isn't anything else to discuss.
There's always things to discuss.However when people start talking about passing laws based solely on religious beliefs or race.Then that's a problem.
 

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Please just call me "Snake"
It'd be easier just to give the border patrol back it's teeth.
As for the Christ/Buddha question in essence they had similar teachings if you NEED/WANT more in detail information.I suggest going to a church or temple near you.
I never thought obeying the golden rule was asinine.I know in a harsh modern world it might be thought of as naive or antiquated.But asinine? Never.
Snake Plisken?
 

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I don't knoe that I would call the modern world harsh.
if we are the modern world they (being the terrorist) are lick g via a religion from the first millennium. who is waving war pver religion? Who is beheading women that they won't allow to be educated? Who claims a woman needs three family members tl wotmess a rape on order for a rape to occur?
 

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Who the hell is momo? Mohammed?
 

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There's always things to discuss.However when people start talking about passing laws based solely on religious beliefs or race.Then that's a problem.

Nobody is talking about race. But it is prudent to talk about and limit who enters our country. The word I believe that would fit better is "discrimination". It is discrimination. Not racist. Not bigotry.

Discrimination isn't always a bad thing.

Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit.

I discriminate on who I let in my house. If I feel they may be bad news to me and mine they don't get to come in. ;)
 

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I don't knoe that I would call the modern world harsh.
if we are the modern world they (being the terrorist) are lick g via a religion from the first millennium. who is waving war pver religion? Who is beheading women that they won't allow to be educated? Who claims a woman needs three family members tl wotmess a rape on order for a rape to occur?
Yep it's been harsh for quite sometime now...Don't you think it's far past time to stop laying head on brick of the same stupid wall?
 

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Nobody is talking about race. But it is prudent to talk about and limit who enters our country. The word I believe that would fit better is "discrimination". It is discrimination. Not racist. Not bigotry.

Discrimination isn't always a bad thing.

Discrimination is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit.

I discriminate on who I let in my house. If I feel they may be bad news to me and mine they don't get to come in. ;)
I've stated repeatedly that what we as a country need is to just completely close our borders to everything except for commerce.
 

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Yep it's been harsh for quite sometime now...Don't you think it's far past time to stop laying head on brick of the same stupid wall?
My head is fine, and the walls are padded.

What I can't understand is where you're coming from with the cyclical speak.
I may not be a theologian; but, I grew up devout catholic; so I've read the Torah and new testament several times as well as have a fair bit of knowledge of the culture at the time,
Ive also read the Koran, while trying to understand a woman whom I was seeing's heritage,
I may not know who the hell memo was but I know enough about that part of the world and the three major religions

What I don't get is tour cyclical speak. On one hand you want to shut down the border, on the other you want us to let everyone in without prejudice.
Or
You Call the modern world harsh yet; we are tolerant of a harsh society living as if they are still in 700ad.

Perhaps you should stop slamming your head and decide which ideals you want to follow. Or maybe you are ashamed of being in the USA? Is that it? Do you feel some sort lf societal guilt? I think we are more than accepting as a people here, at least where I live, but I draw the line at importing killers, we have plenty here already.
 

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My head is fine, and the walls are padded.

What I can't understand is where you're coming from with the cyclical speak.
I may not be a theologian; but, I grew up devout catholic; so I've read the Torah and new testament several times as well as have a fair bit of knowledge of the culture at the time,
Ive also read the Koran, while trying to understand a woman whom I was seeing's heritage,
I may not know who the hell memo was but I know enough about that part of the world and the three major religions

What I don't get is tour cyclical speak. On one hand you want to shut down the border, on the other you want us to let everyone in without prejudice.
Or
You Cal the modern world harsh and are tolerant of a harsh society living as if we are still in 700ad.

Perhaps you should stop slamming your head and decide which ideals you want to follow. Or maybe you are ashamed of being in the USA? Is that it? Do you feel some sort lf societal guilt? I think we are more than accepting as a people here, at least where I live, but I draw the line at importing killers, we have plenty here already.
Momo is what I cal mohamed it's just easier to write out...and it's endearing.
 

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I've stated repeatedly that what we as a country need is to just completely close our borders to everything except for commerce.

Imagine if we had closed our border to Einstein. Just one example. I prefer discrimination.

There is a strong case to be made to stop immigration, under any pretext, from the middle east at the moment. Now, banning muslims only is a bit far fetched. For instance, there are many christians and jews in the middle east so banning muslims only is not possible. A syrian or turkish or egyptian or pakistan terrorist only needs claim he is a christian or athiest. Banning a religion is not possible. It only forces the religion underground which is just a dumb idea.
 

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well now you're the theologian so share with everyone..what are the first and last words a muslim is supposed to hear in there lives.
Your Answer = "God is great, there is no God but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Come to prayer."
Happy?
 

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Your Answer = "God is great, there is no God but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Come to prayer."
Happy?
exactlly ...there is no God but Allah and mohammad is his prophet...so you see it is impossible to talk about Islam without aknowledging that momo is his central prophet...and you can't talk about momo without talking about his inherent violence.which is in stark contrast to the lives of the christ and the buddha
 

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My head is fine, and the walls are padded.

What I can't understand is where you're coming from with the cyclical speak.
I may not be a theologian; but, I grew up devout catholic; so I've read the Torah and new testament several times as well as have a fair bit of knowledge of the culture at the time,
Ive also read the Koran, while trying to understand a woman whom I was seeing's heritage,
I may not know who the hell memo was but I know enough about that part of the world and the three major religions

What I don't get is tour cyclical speak. On one hand you want to shut down the border, on the other you want us to let everyone in without prejudice.
Or
You Call the modern world harsh yet; we are tolerant of a harsh society living as if they are still in 700ad.

Perhaps you should stop slamming your head and decide which ideals you want to follow. Or maybe you are ashamed of being in the USA? Is that it? Do you feel some sort lf societal guilt? I think we are more than accepting as a people here, at least where I live, but I draw the line at importing killers, we have plenty here already.
I know it seems contradictory...Just think about it though.
And I'm happy to be an American and totally guilt free.
 

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Momo is what I cal mohamed it's just easier to write out...and it's endearing.
I assumed as much but wanted to make sure.... before I get another Gif for thinking
 

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