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When I saw and then read Gone With the Wind and developed the usual young girls' fascination with all things antebellum, I wondered the same thing. That, and also my experience with trying an actual corset, gives a great deal of understanding of why women so often succumbed to "the vapors", and there was an actual article of furniture called a "fainting couch."

In the course of my historical researches though, I turned up an interesting factoid -- although there was a female undergarment called "pantalettes", they were considered rather scandalous, and were usually only worn during "that time of the month" -- women mostly went completely under their skirts and layers of petticoats. So that explains a little about how they were able to endure those layers of skirts and petticoats, and again, why they so often fainted... along with the tightly-laced corset, of course -- pull that thing tight enough, and you see black spots before your eyes, the prelude to passing out cold. It also explains why women wore those enormous broad-brimmed hats -- yes partly to keep their skin milky-white, but also for coolness.

The Victorian multi-layered costumes were really only appropriate to England, where it's cold and damp pretty much 12 months of the year. I've often heard brits bitching about the heat in America... which tells you, it's cold there ALL the time. Even when they say it's summer over there... it's barely 60-70 degrees -- which I consider rather chilly! And Scotland, even colder and wetter.

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I watch quite a bit of British television..they bitch about the heat when it's what I would call wonderful weather if not a little chilly. If it goes 80 there people start dropping it seems like..

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I've said that so many times to my friends and family that whenever I say alaska, eyes start rolling. I've lived in kentucky my whole life and I've never felt "at home" during the summer months. Can't stand the heat/humidity
I grew up in the hills of eastern KY. In summer it is like a greenhouse there. Miserable and horrible on allergies and such.
 

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I watch quite a bit of British television..they bitch about the heat when it's what I would call wonderful weather if not a little chilly. If it goes 80 there people start dropping it seems like..

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Actually I feel quite amused when people in NY start complaining about the heat. :D C'mon down to Atlanta, find out what heat REALLY IS. :D

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If you think Shelbyville and Lexington are flatlander's, you should come to Houston. LOL
Been all over the world. Spent close to a year in TX mostly around DFW area.
Compared to the hills of eastern KY your area is a flatland unless down by the river some places.
Where I grew up you had to look up the chimney to see if the sun was shining.
Direct sunlight never hits some of the northern facing hillsides.
 

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And have you ever been to NY in the winter? They heat the buildings to like 85 degrees. :facepalm:

Good god. I would hate that -- even down here, most people overheat their houses in the winter. I usually only let it get to about 72-73 in the house in the winter, so there's not such a huge diff to the temp outside, and it doesn't dry the air so much -- that drying is why it's so easy to get colds/flu in the winter, along with the fact that people are indoors all together -- the drying causes microscopic cracks in the mucosa, which permits ingress to virii. I got a cool-air humidifier last winter, to run at night when I'm sleeping, and it helped a LOT! Didn't wake up with my throat/sinuses/nose all dried and cracked.

But I noticed the same thing in MI, which also gets very cold winters, especially as you get further from Detroit's industrial areas -- no way is it healthy to heat the indoors that extremely.

Just another reason I've become a hermit. Apparently it's rude to walk in someone else's house and complain about the temperature. :D

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Good god. I would hate that -- even down here, most people overheat their houses in the winter. I usually only let it get to about 72-73 in the house in the winter, so there's not such a huge diff to the temp outside, and it doesn't dry the air so much -- that drying is why it's so easy to get colds/flu in the winter, along with the fact that people are indoors all together -- the drying causes microscopic cracks in the mucosa, which permits ingress to virii. I got a cool-air humidifier last winter, to run at night when I'm sleeping, and it helped a LOT! Didn't wake up with my throat/sinuses/nose all dried and cracked.

But I noticed the same thing in MI, which also gets very cold winters, especially as you get further from Detroit's industrial areas -- no way is it healthy to heat the indoors that extremely.

Just another reason I've become a hermit. Apparently it's rude to walk in someone else's house and complain about the temperature. :D

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I'm with you except I think we turn our heat on here maybe twice a year. My house is usually in the mid 60's in the winter. In the summer we set our AC to about 75.
 

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I'm with you except I think we turn our heat on here maybe twice a year. My house is usually in the mid 60's in the winter. In the summer we set our AC to about 75.

I'm pretty chilly if it gets below 70 degrees. In the spring when we first turn on the AC, I like it about 73-74, but as the heat grows outside, I go up to about 75-76. Generally I'm pretty comfy around 76, unless I'm cooking, then it's back to 74. :D

I've always been a fairly "cold-natured" person... till this hot flash shit started. *sigh* They're not as bad as they used to be, and I've learned how to deal with them very effectively -- cold water on the ears! and then fan myself like a mad thing. But 10 yrs ago, I swear to god, all of a sudden it would feel like there was a 10,000 watt spotlight shining right between my shoulder blades.

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I'm with you except I think we turn our heat on here maybe twice a year. My house is usually in the mid 60's in the winter. In the summer we set our AC to about 75.
I think you had the AC running when we were there one time when it was cold outside! I must admit, your house does feel nice in the summer!

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I'm pretty chilly if it gets below 70 degrees. In the spring when we first turn on the AC, I like it about 73-74, but as the heat grows outside, I go up to about 75-76. Generally I'm pretty comfy around 76, unless I'm cooking, then it's back to 74. :D

I've always been a fairly "cold-natured" person... till this hot flash shit started. *sigh* They're not as bad as they used to be, and I've learned how to deal with them very effectively -- cold water on the ears! and then fan myself like a mad thing. But 10 yrs ago, I swear to god, all of a sudden it would feel like there was a 10,000 watt spotlight shining right between my shoulder blades.

Andria

I think I'm going through male menopause as I get hot flashes all the time. :teehee: It probably has more to do with the extra 50lbs I'm carrying. :facepalm:
 

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I think I'm going through male menopause as I get hot flashes all the time. :teehee: It probably has more to do with the extra 50lbs I'm carrying. :facepalm:

Might... when men acquire enough excess lipids, their estrogen goes up -- which is why overweight men get "moobs". (aside from the fact that breast tissue is about 80% fat!) Men's bodies aren't accustomed to much estrogen, so having more of it would definitely have an effect on the hypothalamus, where temp. is regulated. In my case though, it's because there ain't NO MO estrogen. :D I think my hypothalamus is finally starting to come to grips with that, since the hot flashes aren't nearly as devastating as they used to be.

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What's it called? I'm looking for someplace to have lunch tomorrow in that area.
it is called El Camino and is beside the Ale8 plant. If you take the 1st Winchester exit, then left at the major US 60 light. and then another immediate left. At the end of that road. BTW never eat at the El Camino in MT Sterling. Different as night and day from the one in Winchester..
Would meet you there but dealing with batshit crazy SIL and have no idea what tomorrow will bring.
 

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One of the cars best Audiophile songs to listen on your headphones is "Moving in Stereo"......

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Funny you said that.... it just came on my Pandora. No headphones, but excellent Logitech speakers on my desk, widely separated (about 5 ft) so I get why it would be great on headphones.

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it is called El Camino and is beside the Ale8 plant. If you take the 1st Winchester exit, then left at the major US 60 light. and then another immediate left. At the end of that road. BTW never eat at the El Camino in MT Sterling. Different as night and day from the one in Winchester..
Would meet you there but dealing with batshit crazy SIL and have no idea what tomorrow will bring.

Thanks, I'll text you tomorrow when I'll be there. If you can make, cool. If not sorry about the crazy. :cheers:

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FUUUUUCK that shit! lol

You ain't lying. My ole man retired to Vegas. He was towing a trailer of belongings, I was behind him driving his '67 mustang there for him. Stang overheated in the desert, and I pulled over only to watch him fade off in the distance. No A/C, no nuttin. It took him 45 minutes to realize I wasn't behind him anymore, and then ANOTHER 45 to get back. I stepped outta that car, and in 10 minutes, I could feel my SKULL getting hot! Trooper happened along, had antifreeze (funny name for it at that moment) and by the time The Dad got back, I was chatting up the troop in his air conditioned cruiser, and was ready to go. We both figured best thing was to just wait for him, instead of TWO lost cars searching the desert.

I love Michigan. About the time I'm sick of the heat, it gets cold. About the time I'm sick of the cold, it gets warm. FINE by me.
 

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Wyoming is the state to retire in for tax purposes, but it is hard to find as much pretty land as in Colorado. I have looked at Montana too though.

South Dakota too. No state tax. But they do levy sales tax on goods AND services. TRULY weird invoicing a large refinery for sales tax...
 

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So after 4 days of getting beat up in a quality audit, I got to come home early. Course I already worked more than 40 hours this week, but still...
Time to chilax.
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