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Spyg0at

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I'm killing two birds with one stone. 18650's no more! DNA's with lipo's use RC hobby batteries that are immune from FDA deeming regulations.
 

TheKiddVapes

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Well they do have flashlights that requires 18650, I have the high end ones that use them, I hope they'll still sell them. But the lipo are immune because of RC hobbies

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Spyg0at

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Well they do have flashlights that requires 18650, I have the high end ones that use them, I hope they'll still sell them. But the lipo are immune because of RC hobbies

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the 18650 specifically is named in the deeming regs and is considered a tobacco product. Stupid, I know. Lipo's are not mentioned.
 

TheKiddVapes

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the 18650 specifically is named in the deeming regs and is considered a tobacco product. Stupid, I know. Lipo's are not mentioned.
Well F me! Ok that's next in my list, they're going to put flashlights out of reach, effing stoopid

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outwest

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the 18650 specifically is named in the deeming regs and is considered a tobacco product. Stupid, I know. Lipo's are not mentioned.
Damn. I guess i need to read that massive mess. That's crazy

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SuperMidget

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(Comment 75) Some comments stated that items also used for purposes other than for
tobacco use (i.e., a lighter or matches that can be used to light candles) should be classified as
accessories and, therefore, not subject to FDA's chapter IX authorities. For example, batteries
used in advanced personal vaporizers can be found in laptop battery packs or cordless drill packs.
These comments also stated that items such as lighters and batteries may (or may not) be used in
consumption of a tobacco product or are regulated by the Consumer Product Safety Act (as are
child-resistant lighters) and, therefore, should not be subject to FDA's tobacco product
authorities.
(Response) FDA agrees that it is not necessary to regulate batteries that are not intended
or reasonably expected to be used with a tobacco product under its tobacco product authorities.
However, it is important that batteries that are co-packaged with other parts of an ENDS (e.g.,
cartridges and tanks) or otherwise intended or reasonably expected to be used with ENDS are
components subject to FDA's tobacco product authorities. FDA remains concerned about reports
of exploding e-cigarette batteries and finds that regulating them can help address these problems.
Toward that end, elsewhere in this issue of the Federal Register, FDA has made available draft
guidance, which when final will describe FDA's current thinking regarding some appropriate
means of addressing the premarket authorization requirements for newly deemed ENDS
products, including compliance with existing voluntary standards for ENDS batteries.

So if i hit up IMRbatteries.com and order some 18650s i'll be fine but if i order something like a kanger subvod kit the battery has to be approved?

I don't see anything specific about an 18650, just "batteries packaged with other parts"
 
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Spyg0at

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So if i hit up IMRbatteries.com and order some 18650s i'll be fine but if i order something like a kanger subvod kit the battery has to be approved?

I don't see anything specific about an 18650, just "batteries packaged with other parts"
It has more to do with the sourcing and who is selling it. The 18650 was mentioned by name in an article. I don't have it handy as I've read about 40 million stories about it.
 

JuicyLucy

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My strategy is to not buy anything from a "vape supplier" after Aug. 8 until we see how it all shakes out

The way one state after another institutes ridiculous taxes, restrictions, etc. The FDA thing may just be a drop in the bucket in the shape of things to come
 

shawn.hoefer

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My strategy is to not buy anything from a "vape supplier" after Aug. 8 until we see how it all shakes out

The way one state after another institutes ridiculous taxes, restrictions, etc. The FDA thing may just be a drop in the bucket in the shape of things to come
My plan is to place an order for one of everything from FastTech on August 9th ;-)

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Dawn0810

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Do I do it?
Or for 1/3 of the price I can get these 3
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Spyg0at

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I've stocked up on mods. I got 15 boxes of coils for my TFV8's. I have gallons of juice. I'm waiting on some flavor extracts but that's about it. I have orders coming inform a few more places but I believe my pantry is about full.
 

Dawn0810

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I've stocked up on mods. I got 15 boxes of coils for my TFV8's. I have gallons of juice. I'm waiting on some flavor extracts but that's about it. I have orders coming inform a few more places but I believe my pantry is about full.
You and I will survive the vapapocalypse


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Dawn0810

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Got it.

You need to get on VU Live and have "Dawn's Vapepocalypse Prep Show"

Lol
Oh boy I wish I wasn't shy I'd really like to do reviews ESP when I watch a review or maybe more a how to video I know more than so many of them and I don't know of too many females who make really nice vids trust me I have long ass nails and if I can do it so can anyone else but I couldn't sit there and watch myself cuz I'd laugh. I've always worked with my hands and have always done crafts which helped me work in tight spaces and for mixing I love to cook and bake which helps a lot when making juice


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MOMABEAR

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Y'all making my nerves hurt....lol....my nephew teaching his kids to fire aka s and pistols and gunman in Baton Rouge shot 7 police officers killing 3...I try to escape and Y'all talking about the impending doom of vaping...what happened to my happy place...guess I'll go find that cave that dawn rejected and vape....it's not looking good for the home team ppl....ugh....

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Dawn0810

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Y'all making my nerves hurt....lol....my nephew teaching his kids to fire aka s and pistols and gunman in Baton Rouge shot 7 police officers killing 3...I try to escape and Y'all talking about the impending doom of vaping...what happened to my happy place...guess I'll go find that cave that dawn rejected and vape....it's not looking good for the home team ppl....ugh....

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We will rally and we could probably last a year on what I have now but I'm stocking up every week I'm might be rich when I'm forced to stop buying gear.


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MOMABEAR

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We will rally and we could probably last a year on what I have now but I'm stocking up every week I'm might be rich when I'm forced to stop buying gear.


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That the most valuable thing about pif boxes that few ppl realize it is a networking of sorts...you make trusted ppl that you can really count on....

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Spyg0at

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Y'all making my nerves hurt....lol....my nephew teaching his kids to fire aka s and pistols and gunman in Baton Rouge shot 7 police officers killing 3...I try to escape and Y'all talking about the impending doom of vaping...what happened to my happy place...guess I'll go find that cave that dawn rejected and vape....it's not looking good for the home team ppl....ugh....

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Wel'll start a Vaping Commune. We'll all live in Yurts and share our vape resources. Lol.

Maybe that's a cult?
 

JuicyLucy

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Ever seen a 3 legged kitten who has learned to use toys and amuse herself like this?


That's Nova Bomb. She's our 3 legged rescue kitten. She's awesome.

Awe - that is awesome!

We had a tripod cat named Artie.

He lived to age 21 and in his final years had to use a modified cookie sheet in place of a catbox.

I called his hind leg his pogo stick
 

Spyg0at

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Oh boy I wish I wasn't shy I'd really like to do reviews ESP when I watch a review or maybe more a how to video I know more than so many of them and I don't know of too many females who make really nice vids trust me I have long ass nails and if I can do it so can anyone else but I couldn't sit there and watch myself cuz I'd laugh. I've always worked with my hands and have always done crafts which helped me work in tight spaces and for mixing I love to cook and bake which helps a lot when making juice


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I'd watch your vape show. I'm betting a lot of people would. Think of all the gear you'd get for free. Lol. Joe said last night he has over 400 mods. They each got 33 30ml bottles from TMAXX last week.
 

MOMABEAR

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I don't get they let smoking go for decades before they cracked down why are they doing it now to us I get kids are getting into it but those are the kids that would've ended up smoking I get so mad


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It all comes down to greed we are costing them money.....alot of money...big pharmacy and tobacco companies....they can't stop it...may slow it down but they will never stop us from vaping

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Spyg0at

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Alright guys I usually keep up with this thread in the back ground, but I just got back from working in Fl. I was way to busy to keep track of of the thread. Would any one mind catching me up
Dawn got a bunch of stuff. I commissioned another custom wood DNA and the end is nigh!!

That's about it.
 

Dawn0810

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I'd watch your vape show. I'm betting a lot of people would. Think of all the gear you'd get for free. Lol. Joe said last night he has over 400 mods. They each got 33 30ml bottles from TMAXX last week.
Thank you I'd really like to do it but I don't even know what equipment if need or where to start I know Shawn offered to help but I don't know where to begin


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JuicyLucy

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Alright guys I usually keep up with this thread in the back ground, but I just got back from working in Fl. I was way to busy to keep track of of the thread. Would any one mind catching me up

Sean bought out Fast Tech and Dawn got everything else.

Oh, and Spygoat got a three-legged kitty.

That's about it
 

Dawn0810

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It all comes down to greed we are costing them money.....alot of money...big pharmacy and tobacco companies....they can't stop it...may slow it down but they will never stop us from vaping

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I'll starting vaping antifreeze maybe I'll catch a buzz too lol


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Pancho_Brown

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Dawn got a bunch of stuff. I commissioned another custom wood DNA and the end is nigh!!

That's about it.

Sean bought out Fast Tech and Dawn got everything else.

Oh, and Spygoat got a three-legged kitty.

That's about it
Sounds about right, glad I didn't miss to much.

Congrats on the kitten man!!
 

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