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First successful build .12 ohms
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Looking for general advise , generic how to videos and walk throbs only go so far
Great cloud production
I've included my vape calculator
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Looks good to me man. Just fix the coils a bit so they mirror each other. And honestly I don't believe there's a need to vape at that high of a wattage. I mean to each their own. I prefer 70w as a nice vape with nice cloud production. I use 20g kanthal 6 wrap dual 3mm id @ .11 ohms.....2.77v
Just an observation...your calculator says 7 wraps, but you clearly have more than that?
Just an observation...your calculator says 7 wraps, but you clearly have more than that?
Thanks so much I have started at a lower wattage
The reason it looks like so many wraps is because it's parallel so I doubled the wire over squeezed it together then wrapped it
so it's really 7 but looks like 12 -14
Pretty sick, man! Bit janky-lookin, but not bad. I know how much of a pain those parallel 24's can be get centered and neat.
I bet you'd get better performance at that same wattage if you could get the resistance up just a tad though. Something like a .15-.18 would probably give you a bit more vapor at that power level. Slightly less risky, too. Same power, more surface area. Not sure what the ramp up would be like, though. You might need a bit more voltage/wattage to get it snappy. Just a theory. If I had that kind of power in my hands, that's what I'd do.
I will say that I never had any problems getting a dual 22 to chuck like that at .16. Still every bit of 100w going to it. I'm not sure how comparable to a dual 24 that is with what you're using, though. I find them to be pretty similar in a mech, though the dual parallel 24 tends to be a bit slower and hotter than the dual 22 at the same resistance.
By the looks of it, you'd have to go up in diameter rather than wraps, though!
I bet you'd get better performance at that same wattage if you could get the resistance up just a tad though. Something like a .15-.18 would probably give you a bit more vapor at that power level. Slightly less risky, too. Same power, more surface area. Not sure what the ramp up would be like, though. You might need a bit more voltage/wattage to get it snappy. Just a theory. If I had that kind of power in my hands, that's what I'd do.
I will say that I never had any problems getting a dual 22 to chuck like that at .16. Still every bit of 100w going to it. I'm not sure how comparable to a dual 24 that is with what you're using, though. I find them to be pretty similar in a mech, though the dual parallel 24 tends to be a bit slower and hotter than the dual 22 at the same resistance.
By the looks of it, you'd have to go up in diameter rather than wraps, though!
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Very helpful tyvm I do wanna try some other builds I've omlnly built the two coils there this is my first box mod and my first deck.
I've been very excited about it all and it's hard to talk to anyone about this stuff because it scares people lol
Vapor calculator has got to be the best app ever it makes thus while process so much easier
And also with a 3 post dark horse deck I have no more room for more wraps anyway and knowing how I get into things I'll probably end up buying a mutation and going four post I was neiev to think that 4 post was more complicated when really it's more user friendly
I've been very excited about it all and it's hard to talk to anyone about this stuff because it scares people lol
Vapor calculator has got to be the best app ever it makes thus while process so much easier
And also with a 3 post dark horse deck I have no more room for more wraps anyway and knowing how I get into things I'll probably end up buying a mutation and going four post I was neiev to think that 4 post was more complicated when really it's more user friendly
Waitwaitwait... ...you mean this is your first build ever?! That's craaaazy, man! There aren't batteries out there that can handle the kinds of amps you're pulling from whatever batts you have. You really should play around with the .2-.3 ohm range a bit, assuming you at least have some VTC4's on hand. They can perform pretty nicely at that range, but they won't literally blow your face off, if you catch my drift.
There's more to clouds than just resistance, yanno? A number of factors come into play. Airflow and wicking are at least as important. And beyond that, there is a whole world of thermodynamics behind the art and science of coil-building. You don't have to build nearly that low to get mad flavor and vapor, especially on something like a sigelei 150. Hate to scold, but I feel like caution is necessary, here.
It's alright, you're safe here. But seriously, do be safe. That's some serious power you're playing with building to .12. Know that building that low is seriously dangerous, and in your case, unnecessary. People build low for power. Your box can get you the power without going so low because it has a lot of voltage. And it will be a lot easier on your batteries. No need to max it.
Haven't used it myself. I do like steam engine quite a lot for the same reasons, though.
Oh yes, the 4 post design is definitely the way to go for dual builds. It'll change your whole world. I don't think it's any more spacious though. It just makes the process easier. Part of the challenge of building is making it compact enough to fit comfortably while still keeping the surface area up. Surface area and temperature are your friends. Figure out how to make them play nicely with form factor and you'll be sitting pretty.
Wow I have that noted I thought the high temp that my mod has been getting was normal and I would just give it a rest, which was probably a good idea!
Really expanded my understanding because it was just that lol good cotton and low resistance and some juice for big cloud
I really appreciate all the advise I don't have a knowledgeable local shop and the closest shop that is a good vape shop is like an 2 hour drive because head shops that sell vape supplies aren't the same or at least in my area and none of my friends family or coworkers know anything about vaping asides from ecigs lol
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I fixes the post that was way harder to do than it should've been
7 wraps parallel wires, so it looks like 14
You mean it's feeling hot, or it's cutting off and showing that on the display? Either way, yeah, that's a good sign that you're building too low.
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...-sick-clouds-bro-thread-sticky-edition.78126/
^A good place to start.
I hope you're also using an ohm meter to check your coils. I know your mod has one, but it's best to have a dedicated one that you can use while building. You also need to start checking the amp drain of your coils with an ohms law calculator and comparing it with the continuous amp rating on your batteries. Keep it at least 15% below the amp limit on your batteries. Go too low for too long, and your batteries will vent. Sounds innocuous, but it's another word for smoke, fire, shrapnel, and boiling liquid being tossed violently in close proximity to your hand and your face.
http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp
Makes it very simple. Choose your battery from the drop down list and plug in the resistance.
You have much to learn. And this place has much to teach you. Take a look around. Ask lots of questions.
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...-sick-clouds-bro-thread-sticky-edition.78126/
^A good place to start.
I hope you're also using an ohm meter to check your coils. I know your mod has one, but it's best to have a dedicated one that you can use while building. You also need to start checking the amp drain of your coils with an ohms law calculator and comparing it with the continuous amp rating on your batteries. Keep it at least 15% below the amp limit on your batteries. Go too low for too long, and your batteries will vent. Sounds innocuous, but it's another word for smoke, fire, shrapnel, and boiling liquid being tossed violently in close proximity to your hand and your face.
http://www.steam-engine.org/batt.asp
Makes it very simple. Choose your battery from the drop down list and plug in the resistance.
You have much to learn. And this place has much to teach you. Take a look around. Ask lots of questions.
Yeah I kinda got scared when I found out wh
So much knowledge I'll be sure to post update here with my new build
