First Vape starter kit?

[doinurmop]

I don't want to make this post too long, but I've properly research (and will still research even more) and want to get a proper starter kit. I've only really used some cheap disposable ecigs in the past, I mean I got what I paid for, they were pretty crap, infact they had pratically no flavor. Nevermind that though.

I've been thinking of getting an RTA starter kit. I don't wanna mess about with RDA'S right now, and I don't want a clearomizer, since I'd rather learn how to build my own coils and wick the thing, rather than paying a lot more in total in the future from replacing the entire thing. (Granted, with some you can still buy prebuilt coils though, which sometimes seems a bit cheaper than clearomziers at that.
Because of this I plan to get an Ohm meter too, since they wont run me too much, and maybe a coil toil made to twist it, if that's the word you'd use.

I'm keeping my budget a bit open, like £35 to £65, though open to consideration, I like a good deal, so if I can go cheaper than expected for the same or better quality of a product, I'm pretty much down to clown.

Because of this, there have been 2 starter kits i've been VERY interested in, those being the https://www.ukecigstore.com/smok-procolor-vape-kit.html SMOK Procolor vape kit, which Big baby beast TFV8 tank

And the https://www.ukecigstore.com/smok-alien-mini-vape-kit.html Mini Alien AL85, which includes the same tank but smaller im pretty sure.


I've heard a lot of good things about these tanks, and mods in general, especially the procolor, the screen on that thing is beautiful.

But I also don't wanna heavily sacrifice the flavor, I haven't heard TFV8 sacrifice it alot, In fact I've seen a lot of reviews say the flavor is really good.

I mean granted, anything for be will be really good ,coming from those e cigs.

Any other suggestions though, or personal experience with these kits?

This post ended up being longer than I planned, oops.

 

[gbalkam]

A good first vape starter kit will be 75-80 watts. Come with a tank and have a removeable battery and usb charge ability.
I happen to like kanger toptank mini kit,since that was the first RTA I actually used after moving past the vape pen style.
75-80 watts will let you vape the way you want, yet still allow you a bit of extra power should you want to try RTAs RDAs or RDTA combo.
Sure you can get cheaper and easier all in one, one button mods, but I like having the option to grow without replacing all my gear.

OR you could go for the cadalac and check out something like Segelei Spectrum Kaos at fasttech. (Just purchased my 2nd for about $64.00 Canadian.) and lots of tanks to choose from.

 

[PoppaVic]

75-80 will be the single-cell range. An eleaf pico is a good starter. For a few dollars more you can step up to a 100w device like the istick 100w or tc100w - dual cells, sorta' an all day vape. I'll tell you what I retroactively told my boss: I've a buddy that works as a major distributor for many vape-shops - he hates and loathes SMOK.. Why? Because their RMA numbers are far more than anyone else they provide. YMMV

There are dozens of rta to choose from. You need to provide more data: MTL, RTL, DTL; Single vs dual-coil.
How often do you vape? How much did you smoke? What did you smoke? etc, etc, etc

Personally, I'm sorta' sold on older style single-coil tanks that are just damned reliable - these run on a used pair of vt133 mods; and I've added squonking on the Gbox 200 with - yes, more single-coil RSA/RDA..

We got even more opinions than assholes, (invert the usual cliche here). And, believe me, we got plenty of those aholes to go around - it's a target-rich environment.

 

[Vape Fan]

I don't understand why you say RTA/build coils, then list sub ohm with prebuilt coil heads. Also don't understand why sub ohm's are called RTA's in this thread?

 

[choderfett]

Don’t forget to learn about battery safety and such!
My first kit was a vaporesso revenger X.. and I never use the subohm Pre-coil NRG tank anymore..
Switched over to a few different rebuildable tanks, like this serpent smm shown.

 

[doinurmop]

A good first vape starter kit will be 75-80 watts. Come with a tank and have a removeable battery and usb charge ability.
I happen to like kanger toptank mini kit,since that was the first RTA I actually used after moving past the vape pen style.
75-80 watts will let you vape the way you want, yet still allow you a bit of extra power should you want to try RTAs RDAs or RDTA combo.
Sure you can get cheaper and easier all in one, one button mods, but I like having the option to grow without replacing all my gear.

OR you could go for the cadalac and check out something like Segelei Spectrum Kaos at fasttech. (Just purchased my 2nd for about $64.00 Canadian.) and lots of tanks to choose from.

With something that goes up even higher than that stated wattage, like the ones I linked for example, you (or I) could always slowly build up in wattage instead with it. Though to be frank, I doubt i'll ever need that much in the forseeable future.

One button mods, while I understand the appeal, to me is rather boring, and limiting.
I'll give that one a look though, cheers!

I don't understand why you say RTA/build coils, then list sub ohm with prebuilt coil heads. Also don't understand why sub ohm's are called RTA's in this thread?

You can still build your own coils with the TVF8, buying prebuilt ones is just another options.
As for calling sub ohms RTA'S, 2 reasons for that.
1: It didn't really say it's a sub ohm in the description, so I didn't actually know. I heard some people say it is and others say it isn't.
2: It's still really an RTA imo, even if it's a Sub Ohm RTA.

75-80 will be the single-cell range. An eleaf pico is a good starter. For a few dollars more you can step up to a 100w device like the istick 100w or tc100w - dual cells, sorta' an all day vape. I'll tell you what I retroactively told my boss: I've a buddy that works as a major distributor for many vape-shops - he hates and loathes SMOK.. Why? Because their RMA numbers are far more than anyone else they provide. YMMV

Personally, I'm sorta' sold on older style single-coil tanks that are just damned reliable - these run on a used pair of vt133 mods; and I've added squonking on the Gbox 200 with - yes, more single-coil RSA/RDA..

We got even more opinions than assholes, (invert the usual cliche here). And, believe me, we got plenty of those aholes to go around - it's a target-rich environment.

Really now? that's an interesting fact. Frankly I wonder why that could be, user error maybe?

Also I can understand that, simplicity can always be a good thing, or for other a bad thing.
Also I cant give a tonne more data,not bad for me though, since I like keeping my choices wide open to any suggestion, within reason.

Don’t forget to learn about battery safety and such!
My first kit was a vaporesso revenger X.. and I never use the subohm Pre-coil NRG tank anymore..
Switched over to a few different rebuildable tanks, like this serpent smm shown.
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Don't worry, I'm all on that. Wouldn't want a tragic event to happen to me, just because I didn't follow safety rules.
And I'll give that one a look too!

 

[Vape Fan]

You can still build your own coils with the TVF8, buying prebuilt ones is just another options.
As for calling sub ohms RTA'S, 2 reasons for that.
1: It didn't really say it's a sub ohm in the description, so I didn't actually know. I heard some people say it is and others say it isn't.
2: It's still really an RTA imo, even if it's a Sub Ohm RTA.

You can't build it with that kit you linked.
1. Correct, you didn't call it a sub ohm, you called it an RTA.
2. It's not an RTA unless it's a Rebuildable Tank Atomizer, ie, coiled and wicked by you, not coil heads like both the smok links.

I'd rather learn how to build my own coils and wick the thing, rather than paying a lot more in total in the future from replacing the entire thing.
Because of this I plan to get an Ohm meter too, since they wont run me too much, and maybe a coil toil made to twist it, if that's the word you'd use.

I'm keeping my budget a bit open, like £35 to £65, though open to consideration
I also don't wanna heavily sacrifice the flavor, I haven't heard TFV8 sacrifice it alot, In fact I've seen a lot of reviews say the flavor is really good.
Any other suggestions though, or personal experience with these kits?

Do yourself a favor and steer clear of your initial 2 considerations. The atty is where the vapor/flavor comes from, so don't get too involved by picking a kit because of how it looks. That's how you get roped in. We see issues posted here and I see them other places for ProColor and some of those smok tanks/mods and other smok products because their QC sux. AL85 not as much, but you can do better.

Take a look at Freemax Fireluke. Uses coil heads and also comes with a build deck so you don't have to buy it separately. Many positive posts here, and there, for it and don't see any negative.
Smoant Cylon for a mod, for the same reasons.
You can get both, which are hands down better than either smok pick, at FastTech for less than what the linked ProColor kit costs. (code MAP)
Still leaves enough for QUALITY batteries. External battery charger is advisable.

 

[doinurmop]

You can't build it with that kit you linked.
1. Correct, you didn't call it a sub ohm, you called it an RTA.
2. It's not an RTA unless it's a Rebuildable Tank Atomizer, ie, coiled and wicked by you, not coil heads like both the smok links.

.

Ah yes, i looked further into it. You can build your own coils, I was correct on that, but you need to buy a seperate RBA head for it https://www.ukecigstore.com/smok-tfv8-v8-baby-rba.html

Either way, apologies for my misunderstanding!

Do yourself a favor and steer clear of your initial 2 considerations. The atty is where the vapor/flavor comes from, so don't get too involved by picking a kit because of how it looks. That's how you get roped in. We see issues posted here and I see them other places for ProColor and some of those smok tanks/mods and other smok products because their QC sux. AL85 not as much, but you can do better.

Very good point, at least for the procolor, I guess I did kinda get hooked up on the look, without realizing it myself. When in reality, for the HD screen on the Procolor, it's probably only going to be a minor positive in terms of funcionality, compared to the majority of other mods in this range using mainly OLED displays I'm pretty sure. 95% of the price for those kits is pretty much the mod, more so for the procolor. And possibly due to the brand name, seeing how widely distrubuted SMOK products seem to be.

Take a look at Freemax Fireluke. Uses coil heads and also comes with a build deck so you don't have to buy it separately. Many positive posts here, and there, for it and don't see any negative.
Smoant Cylon for a mod, for the same reasons.
You can get both, which are hands down better than either smok pick, at FastTech for less than what the linked ProColor kit costs. (code MAP)
Still leaves enough for QUALITY batteries. External battery charger is advisable.

Looked into both, and they seem pretty great! Only issue being I'm having a hard time finding them for a reasonable price on UK based sites.
Fasttech offers a great price, though I have the feeling they'll take a rather long time to arrive using that.

 

[inspects]

I don't want to make this post too long, but I've properly research (and will still research even more) and want to get a proper starter kit. I've only really used some cheap disposable ecigs in the past, I mean I got what I paid for, they were pretty crap, infact they had pratically no flavor. Nevermind that though.

I've been thinking of getting an RTA starter kit. I don't wanna mess about with RDA'S right now, and I don't want a clearomizer, since I'd rather learn how to build my own coils and wick the thing, rather than paying a lot more in total in the future from replacing the entire thing. (Granted, with some you can still buy prebuilt coils though, which sometimes seems a bit cheaper than clearomziers at that.
Because of this I plan to get an Ohm meter too, since they wont run me too much, and maybe a coil toil made to twist it, if that's the word you'd use.

I'm keeping my budget a bit open, like £35 to £65, though open to consideration, I like a good deal, so if I can go cheaper than expected for the same or better quality of a product, I'm pretty much down to clown.

Because of this, there have been 2 starter kits i've been VERY interested in, those being the https://www.ukecigstore.com/smok-procolor-vape-kit.html SMOK Procolor vape kit, which Big baby beast TFV8 tank

And the https://www.ukecigstore.com/smok-alien-mini-vape-kit.html Mini Alien AL85, which includes the same tank but smaller im pretty sure.


I've heard a lot of good things about these tanks, and mods in general, especially the procolor, the screen on that thing is beautiful.

But I also don't wanna heavily sacrifice the flavor, I haven't heard TFV8 sacrifice it alot, In fact I've seen a lot of reviews say the flavor is really good.

I mean granted, anything for be will be really good ,coming from those e cigs.

Any other suggestions though, or personal experience with these kits?

This post ended up being longer than I planned, oops.

Welcome to VU.....

 

[Vape Fan]

Nope, not user error. > smok error.
Yep, you can buy the RBA deck separately, and add to the cost for a rebuildable that's not that good.
I hear it takes about a week from FT to UK. Worth the wait.
But, you've justified your choices against anything anyone's suggested that points to something else, and you had your mind made up before you posted for advise. There's a reason experienced vapers don't buy kits.

 

[gbalkam]

Though to be frank, I doubt i'll ever need that much in the forseeable future.

ROTFLMAO...sound familiar guys??? (I think nearly every one of us has said that)
BTW the main reason I mentioned the 230W segelei is price difference vs quality. Segelei really is the Cadalac imo. Had mine for 6 months until I got caught in a rain storm and it got wet. I suggested the 75-80w kit to start because it will allow you a few future options without the need to buy a whole new mod. Which is kind of what I wish the guy at the shop had told me. Just because a mod will do 80w doesn't mean it won't do 15w. ) (most of my rba mini builds are 24 to 32w)