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Flavoring Disaster

Grandpa

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Member For 4 Years
Merry Christmas all -

Yesterday, I mixed my first batch of flavored e-liquid.

First, let me tell you what I HAVE been vaping. I've been mixing this for a couple of months now.

10% Supercritical Nic in the VG blend.
80% Liquid Barn VG
10% Distilled Water

Very simple and works like a charm. I'm vaping it in 3 different tanks: A Crown II, A Horizon Arctic Turbo, and a TFV4 using the RBA. I built a Clapton for the TFV4 that is coming in around .35 ohms, the 2 prebuilt coil tanks are both coming in at around .25 ohms. All is well with this and I have been getting good results.

So I decided to dip my toes into the flavoring pool. Yesterday I received a shipment of various TFA flavorings. For my first project I went for a Key Lime. Here is the recipe I made up. All flavorings are TFA.

10% Supercritical Nic in the VG blend.
72.5% Liquid Barn VG
10% Distilled Water
2.5% TFA Bavarian Cream Flavoring
2.5% TFA Key Lime Flavoring
2.5% TFA Meringue Flavoring

It is a disaster. Tastes fine until a few puffs in, then gets extremely hot and a bad, bad, throat hit. I thought I was going to die hitting this earlier this evening. It's like liquid flame. I've only tried it in the Crown II so far with the mod set at 60 W. I'll also say that I have ZERO experience with flavorings. I just haven't tried many flavorings yet, and the few I did try, I didn't like.

I also must add: I cooked it for 4 hours in a crock pot set on low. Seemed like the water got very warm; I couldn't handle the glass for an hour afterwards. I let it sit overnight to cool down on the back porch with the cap on. Right now, I'm letting it sit open overnight and see what that does to it.

Right now I have three other batches in the crock pot that I made up this afternoon. I have the crock pot set on warm this time, and I just pulled the plug on the pot 10 minutes ago so it's coasting to the finish line. I'm letting it coast for another 20 minutes for a total of 4 hours. All three batches are different using completely different flavorings than what I used yesterday. All are using the same 10% nic level and 65% VG, and all have 10% distilled water, and each has 3 various flavorings with each at 5%. I've made 30 mls. of each recipe, and the Key Lime one yesterday is also 30 mls. If I have to toss it, it's not going to cost me very much; maybe $10 total if I throw all 4 recipes away. But I'm old, and I'm getting thrifty in my old age.

Any ideas? I'm wondering about 3 things:
Did I damage the first recipe with too much heat trying to force steep it?
Could the problems stem from using 10% distilled water? I would like to keep the water because it thins the liquid out nicely, but if that's the problem, it's gone.
Could it be that it's just a bad combination of flavorings, and is a matter of simple chemistry reactions?

I'm 62 years old; been vaping for 6 months. Gave up analogs 2 years ago, but had several "slips" this past summer which is when I switched to vapor. No cowboy killers since July.

Thanks in advance for your insights,
Grandpa
 

downInTn

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Tastes fine until a few puffs in, then gets extremely hot and a bad, bad, throat hit.
This sounds like a wicking/dry hit issue to me. Try lowering the wattage or re-wick so that you get more flow.
Did I damage the first recipe with too much heat trying to force steep it?
I don't think so. Over cooking can lead to a loss of flavor though.
Could the problems stem from using 10% distilled water?
Not in my opinion, some may disagree, I use 5-10% myself.
Could it be that it's just a bad combination of flavorings, and is a matter of simple chemistry reactions?
This is possible. Maybe try with just two flavors first and see what it's like.
 

Markw4mms

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Maybe you got it a bit too hot too long speed steeping and over oxidized the nicotine causing the severe throat hit. I never really feel the need to steep most juices that have a citrus fruit flavor.
 

HondaDavidson

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Get a food thermometer. ..... check the temp on you pot.. you want no more than 140 degrees.

Try reducing the water content... basically replace the water from your NF juice with flavoring...

Water changes the boiling/vaporization temps of the juice along with thinning it. Idk... but I tend to get hot hits when I get too much water in my juice.

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PuffOn

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Member For 5 Years
Could also be the Key Lime.
Citrus flavors can be harsh on the throat...for me anyway.
 

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