I have bitter wizard and magic mask but haven't really wanted to get rid of sweetness or sour yet.I have both and Magic Mask and have never used them for anything at all. Before I started DIY I researched a lot of information, wrote things down as I went along. People were using them in SO MANY recipes! I've learned so much more from HIC and wllmc than I did in most of my research. Walking VapeBooks, they are. Love it.