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Hello guys trying to dive into RTAs from a standard tank. I am a flavor chaser, planning kanthal coils between .8-1.2 ohm. I read that the fact an RTA is compact helps with flavor boosting, i also interested in the cotton set up of this RTA.

All the experienced RBAers, would you recommend this as a first RTA for me? And what do you think of its flavor compared to other RTAs on the average?
 

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If that is the ohm range you're aiming for, that's a good starter as its easy to build on (less is more when it comes to wicking) and the flavor is really good. A clone of a Kayfun is another good one to check out for what you're looking for
 

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I personally don't like the Avacado 24, but that's just me. The Fodi V2 is better for flavor for that type of atomizer, but if you ever intend to run it at high watts the top cap gets really hot. As for the general genesis tank style of atomizer, it's about as good as any to start out on these days.
 

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ditto re the fodi .. altho the avocado I think has a titch more airflow...but I like them both. And agree that top cap does get hot!
Just a heads up the avocado is coming out with a new version with bottom fed airflow that looks nice.. you might want to check into that b4 you buy (if u decide on the avocado) Either will take both cotton or rope.

What were you using previously?
 

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I'm happy with mine. I'm using a simple kanthal 1.6 ohm single coil build. Wick just in the very top of the wick holes.

Easy to build. Easy to wick. Decent price. Good choice for airflow, tight or loose. Better than tanks with prebuilt coils.

I'm not a collector so I don't have comparisons of others. This one works well for me.
 
I have an Avocado 24. Very easy to build and wick, great flavor. 2 cons that made me stop using it were: Juice capacity, I got tired of having to refill it 5 times a day. My biggest irritation though was that it kept shorting out after a few days.

Since then, I've gone to RTA's and have acquired both sizes of the VCMT by Vaperz Cloud and doing OK for now. Considering the Limitless Plus for the next time the hardware bug bites.
 

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I have 5-6 avocado's, most are the 22mm, but just got 2 of the 24mm ones this last week, they are all good, except one of the 24mm's leaks from between the airflow ring and top cap, very annoying, but doesn't do it on the other one.

I vape in single coil, clapton coil around 1.5 watts, think they have great flavor, and very easy to build on, and apart from the 24mm leaking, don't have any problems with leaking from the rest of them, but I do keep them upright though.

Got the Limitless coming next week to see if it can knock the avocado off my top no.1 list.
 

Kazuya

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ditto re the fodi .. altho the avocado I think has a titch more airflow...but I like them both. And agree that top cap does get hot!
Just a heads up the avocado is coming out with a new version with bottom fed airflow that looks nice.. you might want to check into that b4 you buy (if u decide on the avocado) Either will take both cotton or rope.

What were you using previously?
At first i had the tank that came with the Smok Micro One, i got the whole kit. Currently the tank I am using is Tobecco Super Mini with the vaporesso CCell coils.

Seeing all the people building there own coils makes me want to give it a try, as i am also reading the flavor is better from RBAs.
 

Foggz

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Seeing all the people building there own coils makes me want to give it a try, as i am also reading the flavor is better from RBAs.

You definitely have more control over the flavor when you build your own.. plus it's cheaper and you have more options. Think i started to build after the first time I forgot to get a coil and was 'stuck' waiting for the local B&M to open .. haha.
 

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I bought a Avocado 24 and a Boreas from Subtank supply about a month ago...Both are excellent tanks.

More times then not the avocado is in my hand, its the easiest to wick and coil and change flavors with. I only re-wick it about every 2 weeks. I'm using a 6 wrap 28 ga KA1 3mm ID open coil and at 1.4 ohms the flavor is nice and the clouds are more then sufficient. Only put enough cotton thru the holes to reach the bottom of the deck and if you dont see air bubbles from both ends of the wick after a good vape, thin out the cotton in the holes till you do. I usually taper the ends before I stuff them....Too little it leaks too much it wont wick....Takes about 3 tries to get it perfect.


So, IMHO the water is fine, jump in.

Some good info here at http://vapingunderground.com/threads/the-avocado-24.248851/
 

kargurin

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You definitely have more control over the flavor when you build your own.. plus it's cheaper and you have more options. Think i started to build after the first time I forgot to get a coil and was 'stuck' waiting for the local B&M to open .. haha.
I have 5 conventional tanks including the Crown. Easily the best of the lot. They sit unused now. The flavor on those is thin and a bit harsh in comparison to any RTA I have.

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Well i got it and was a bit let down. Took some expiramenting but getting better. I dont know if it is my coild building skills or wicking, but so far i am not impressed compared to my ceramic coil head.

I am not a cloud chaser so i love my .9 vaporesso ccell coils. The flavor is amazing and i like the resistance in the inhale. Dont know if its the Avocado or super sub ohm vaping or RBAs that aren't doing it for me.
 

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What kind of coils are you using? Single or dual? Have you watched any wicking tutorials. I got lucky, maybe. First build ever and it's working great so far. I think I'm three weeks in on this (admittedly very simple) build.
 

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What kind of coils are you using? Single or dual? Have you watched any wicking tutorials. I got lucky, maybe. First build ever and it's working great so far. I think I'm three weeks in on this (admittedly very simple) build.
single 24g kanthal.

The flavor is just not touching my vaporesso coil heads
 

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A lot of people love the Avocado 24. They are coming out with a bottom airflow version, which I might purchase. I have not had one, but I do have the Limitless Plus RDTA which I love. The problem with these for some people is wicking correctly, but once you get it down, it is fairly simple
 

Foggz

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eah, well, there you go maybe. Try dual SS316L or dual Claptons.

even a single clapton will increase the flavor on the avocado.. and SS IMO gives better flavor as well. @Introcourse makes a good point re the wicking as well. I think any Tank usually has it's own set of caveats/ tricks/ tips/ tweaks to effectively "TUNE" it. Even the drip tip used can change the flavor.

Regardless of the above, have heard great things re ceramic but have not tried any yet, one guy at work swears by the dolphin with it's ceramic coil... have been meaning to get one.. sooner or later probably will.
(Issue I have is it forces ya to 'buy' coils - much prefer freedom of making them)
 

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Yeah, well, there you go maybe. Try dual SS316L or dual Claptons.
Definitely agree with this. I run fused 26g N80 core, 36k wrapped claptons. 5 wraps around 2.5mm comes out to .15 ohm. 60-70 watts and you are in flavor heaven. If you use it on a single 18650 tube mod, 4 wraps works great.

As for SS316L, I have never used it in my limitless, but I can see that being pretty great. I use 22g 316L in my X1 and VCM mods, 6 wrap over 3mm ~.11. That makes for a great time.
 

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Personally, I'd drop back to a single 26 ga 5/6 wrap of K1 on 3mm (spaced), run it on VW at 40 and enjoy both the flavor and the extra battery life...Clue on the wicking is to only go as deep as the bottom of the deck, prime the wicking well and you have to see large air bubbles after a good vape OR you have too much cotton in the holes.
 

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Personally, I'd drop back to a single 26 ga 5/6 wrap of K1 on 3mm (spaced), run it on VW at 40 and enjoy both the flavor and the extra battery life...Clue on the wicking is to only go as deep as the bottom of the deck, prime the wicking well and you have to see large air bubbles after a good vape OR you have too much cotton in the holes.
I'm a little confused by this. If you don't extend the wicks to the bottom of the the tank and only go to the bottom of the deck, how is it supposed to wick anything in the tank?
 

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I'm a little confused by this. If you don't extend the wicks to the bottom of the the tank and only go to the bottom of the deck, how is it supposed to wick anything in the tank?
When u tilt it to hit it

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I run single coil in mine, and I run 1 side of the wick to the bottom of the tank, other side I cut flush with the deck, so get more juice capacity.

I get great flavor with mine, but I am using a clapton coil though, so that helps with more flavor.
 

kevin littell

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flush with the bottom of the deck....It will wick when you tilt it.
 

KDodds

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flush with the bottom of the deck....It will wick when you tilt it.
I'll try it next go around and see if I prefer it, but honestly it's working for me pretty well wicked to the tank bottom. Not really a fan of having to switch grips or hands to wick both sides, though. Wouldn't this also lead to increased risk of dry hits?
 

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Zero dry hits....Unless I get stupid, I only run single coil, if I'm tilting away from the coil It may dry hit after 3 or 4 hits....
 

Kazuya

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even a single clapton will increase the flavor on the avocado.. and SS IMO gives better flavor as well. @Introcourse makes a good point re the wicking as well. I think any Tank usually has it's own set of caveats/ tricks/ tips/ tweaks to effectively "TUNE" it. Even the drip tip used can change the flavor.

Regardless of the above, have heard great things re ceramic but have not tried any yet, one guy at work swears by the dolphin with it's ceramic coil... have been meaning to get one.. sooner or later probably will.
(Issue I have is it forces ya to 'buy' coils - much prefer freedom of making them)
Dude if you try the ccell coil heads you might end up like me. I too have met others, that are like me now, once you go ccell there is no going back. Doesnt matter if it's RTA, RDA, dual or single, etc.

I am going to get a 26-28 guage wire and try it.

Dont get me wrong guys i got it to a decent flavor, and the clouds are amazing. But i am a flavor chaser.
 

Foggz

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yeah I know they last forever, but am pretty set on being able to make a coil anytime I want one.. ;p
Don't like the 'have to make sure I don't run out' bit.. The SS is very clean and produces nice crisp flavor .. Agree tho, will probably give em a run sometime at least to try em!
 

Kazuya

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yeah I know they last forever, but am pretty set on being able to make a coil anytime I want one.. ;p
Don't like the 'have to make sure I don't run out' bit.. The SS is very clean and produces nice crisp flavor .. Agree tho, will probably give em a run sometime at least to try em!
Incase you do, go with the .9 ohm kanthal. Pump that baby at 28-32 watts and be amazed.
 

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Closing off the airflow a touch will produce much better flavor. I run my Avocado strictly in single coil mode, and I have the front cyclops slot about 75% open, and the hole in the ceramic block fully exposed. The draw on this setup is perfect, a nice, somewhat restricted lung hit. Also, the use of the smaller standard 510 drip tip, in lieu of the larger bore drip tip will enhance the flavor a touch. This will restrict the airflow even more, giving even better flavor. On another note, how you wick the coils can have a large effect on the flavor they produce. Too little cotton will give spitback usually, and too much cotton will produce dry hits easier. Finding the delicate balance is KEY for maximizing flavor potential. Also, as with all RDTAs, the amount of wick that hangs down below the deck and into the tank is important. You want smaller "tails" hanging down into the tank. I generally have the tails hang down ~3mm below the deck's wick holes. Tilt the tank with the coils facing you as you vape, and the liquid will wick constantly as you vape, never giving you a dry hit, as long as your wick job is decent. Lastly, ceramic coil heads will produce superior flavor to standard 24g KA1, so I can see why you were skeptical at first...However...Claptons in single coil on the Avocado will produce MUCH better flavor and vapor than ANY ceramic coil head out there. I usually rock a 2x26g core, fused with 36g KA1 fused Clapton, 5 wraps around a 3mm bit. Ohms out around 0.4ohms. For even better flavor, I will parallel the fused Clapton with a single core Ni80 Clapton, producing a staged heating coil effect, and creating a HUGE coil surface area, mimicking a 10 wrap single coil, with the lower resistance of a 5 wrap, due to the coil being in parallel. Again, ohms out around 0.35-0.4ohms. I vape it around 55-60W, and the vape is GLORIOUS....can't beat fused claptons when it comes to flavor on this atty. Well, Aliens are slightly better flavor, but a BITCH to build....if you can get your hands on some prebuilt Aliens, I recommend those in lieu of fused claptons.

CHEERS! And good luck to ya pal!
 

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