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dude.. you tell me, why post in all caps? just as i said in my last post..
and the many others i have posted here....

I already said I have an interest in the thread.. that is all..
either post something up recipe-ish.. or wait till someone else does..
yelling at me lol..

yeah you might be the op.. but still.. im waiting..
and yes i am laughing now.. because you accuse me of all sorts of crap..
but yet.. no recipe from yourself. posting up a thread on it is asking..
and at least i said i can tell if it is in there or not..
again.. i wont pop the recipe up. that is not cool to my ex.
would you do that to your ex? hmm.. and..

returning to the dead topic after how many months?
I did not revive it.. I even told when you posted in the beginning..
I "had" an interest.. at that time, the creator of said recipe was "My Man"
and even now.. it still makes me laugh and i will be damned if you think anything else..
re read the start of my reply here.. over and over if you have to..

I am not blocking you, but unless you have a recipe on this juice.. i will ignore anything else you post..
 

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Sorry, I just can't stand by and watch as someone laughs at someone who is actively trying to figure something out. It's rude and condescending. I didn't revive the thread. Someone else did and I only replied when I got tired of watching you act all cocky. It's like laughing at someone struggling to finish a crossword puzzle that you've already done. That's mean. Only problem is, you didn't do the puzzle. You made it. Even worse as I see it.

I replied in caps because no matter how many ways I say it, no matter how I say it, you still don't get it. So I'll try and tell you again:

No one, especially myself, put any pressure on you to roll over on your ex and give out the recipe. Let that idea go. It's just not true. I never had any intention of profiting off of anyone else's work. All I wanted was to help a buddy of mine (who just had a newborn and couldn't afford $25/30ml for juice and liked the flavor.
I've hooked him up with juice for a year now without ever asking for any money. That's why I started the thread. And I certainly had no idea that anyone with anything to do with the company was even here on the forum.

I messaged you because I thought it was cool that you knew the guys from Steamjunk and was curious about them as they are local (I said this before). Nothing more. Nothing less.

I get pissed when we people act like they are better than others. Character flaw, I guess. Funny part is that you're not helping any more than I am, but at least I'm not laughing at anyone else's efforts. That's just rude. This is why I continue to post, not because of an interest in the recipe. Understand what I'm saying now?

I'm trying to understand you, but all I'm getting is that you think I'm desperate for the recipe , trying to get you to give it out, and that I intended to profit from it and "impress my friends." Is that it? If you read the thread over, I think it's fairly obvious that none of this is true. I'm not back pedaling here, but trying explain myself better so that everyone knows that I'm not the kind of person you're painting me to be. Go ahead and post our PM without editing. My intentions there are pretty clear, as they are here in this thread.







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Sorry, I just can't stand by and watch as someone laughs at someone who is actively trying to figure something out. It's rude and condescending. I didn't revive the thread. Someone else did and I only replied when I got tired of watching you act all cocky. It's like laughing at someone struggling to finish a crossword puzzle that you've already done. That's mean. Only problem is, you didn't do the puzzle. You made it. Even worse as I see it.

I replied in caps because no matter how many ways I say it, no matter how I say it, you still don't get it. So I'll try and tell you again:

No one, especially myself, put any pressure on you to roll over on your ex and give out the recipe. Let that idea go. It's just not true. I never had any intention of profiting off of anyone else's work. All I wanted was to help a buddy of mine (who just had a newborn and couldn't afford $25/30ml for juice and liked the flavor.
I've hooked him up with juice for a year now without ever asking for any money. That's why I started the thread. And I certainly had no idea that anyone with anything to do with the company was even here on the forum.

I messaged you because I thought it was cool that you knew the guys from Steamjunk and was curious about them as they are local (I said this before). Nothing more. Nothing less.

I get pissed when we people act like they are better than others. Character flaw, I guess. Funny part is that you're not helping any more than I am, but at least I'm not laughing at anyone else's efforts. That's just rude. This is why I continue to post, not because of an interest in the recipe. Understand what I'm saying now?

I'm trying to understand you, but all I'm getting is that you think I'm desperate for the recipe , trying to get you to give it out, and that I intended to profit from it and "impress my friends." Is that it? If you read the thread over, I think it's fairly obvious that none of this is true. I'm not back pedaling here, but trying explain myself better so that everyone knows that I'm not the kind of person you're painting me to be. Go ahead an post our PM without editing. My intentions there are pretty clear, as they are here in this thread.







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ok.. since you said all this.. and i truly believe you have blown and continue to blow this way out of what it is..

the juice has been out for over 3 yrs.. in Buffalo NY.. since then, it has been sold at other shops around there, for profit by people attempting to clone it.. why, who knows.. yes it is a very small company.. but it is what it is..

repeat your pm, sure, i could.. i can take up vast amounts of this space and show what you said.
wish i could play the convo for you between my ex and i, but I cant.. he did get a laugh, we both always do..
do you not remember Murdock doing the same thing? or have you not heard of him? and I bet.. this isnt the only juice you have attempted.. paint you as something you say you are not.. how am i to know what you are or arent.. you are just some guy that happened to like my ex's juice.. to the point you wanted to make it for your friend or friends.. at no charge, and you never mentioned it, so then.. you are trying to raise hell in this thread saying i am laughing at the attempts.. no.. i laugh cuz you "guys" are trying.. and not in a bad way.. I wish you would.. i dare ya..

i cant help.. said it before.. i can say yes or no, that a flavor is in there or not.. but like i keep saying.. without being asked, or if asked.. i wont give up the recipe.. it wouldnt be cool.. and you swear no one is asking me.. and either way its ok..
like i said i was watching the thread, because it did make me happy, at one time.. <key word

no you didnt revive it, just like i did not.. someone else did.. doi! i pointed that out, but yet that was a big deal too.. who cares! the thing is someone else came by, said what he tried and then i pop up and say no.. just like i did with you.. big deal.. i guess that you dont like being told no.. that my input of the choice of dragonfruit or grape was not in there.. then you are right.. its in there, do it.. since you wont listen.. but it really isnt dragon fruit or grape.. and hey i am in the wrong for saying it. mhmm.. i see logic.. yeah!

honestly, if you tried to see this from my point of view.. you could understand.. its just simple..
yes i did like the juice too.. like i tried to explain.. i tried to help him with it.. I did the adverting if and when he held sales.. i was around when the juice line took off.. and then i was there when he wanted to know about clean juices etc.. but eh.. im not there now and grateful i am not.. i am doing my own things.. but i still can say if there is or isnt a flavor in there.. and laugh.. because to me.. its good.. someone still likes the juice.. nothing mean from it at all.. but youd have to put yourself in my shoes to even understand.. knowing shops in your area try to sell clones of it.. is what he told me last winter.

i have had recipes posted 3 yrs ago, using the same name, ingredients etc, sold for profit.. yes you say one thing.. but i dont know.. nor will i, you are 13 hours from me, so I doubt i will really know. I dont care if it is cloned, it only made me smile and laugh someone would still attempt. and that is not bad.. its a 3 yr old juice.

yes i can laugh and have a good time.. and for someone to take that all wrong, that is on you. i hope someone learns from all this.. and if you help someone, good.. keep it up.. and honestly.. I was surprised it did become reopened.. i was like wtf? cuz honestly, i have zilch to do with his business anymore.. thats on him. same with me and mine, i am doing my own thing, quiet well.. but imagine if you saw your ex's juice being talked about.. dont say you wouldnt say anything.. and dont think you wouldnt at least get a smile or a laugh out of it. get real.

and to me, it sure does sound like you are still upset on this.. have you not figured it out yet either?

and as for those character flaws lol.. dude.. i even told you a few posts back.. text can become misconstrued.. and i know for a fact, you got this all wrong.. and yes you did mail me first.. and like i said.. i was going thru some rough times.. sure i could post it up, but that was how long ago? and did you ever look me up and stay friends? how am i to know who you are or anything else. cuz you did then poofed. I remember adding you on fb.. but when communication dries up.. when you have nothing to say, when someone wants to be friends and then poofs.. hmm.. only after a recipe.
 

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here is your pm.. and thanks for opening up old sorrows..

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    So are you with Steamjunk or know someone there? Kinda seems that way.

    Just curious. Not looking for an inside track or anything. It's an amazing juice and the maker should be super proud!

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    short story, I am extremely close to SteamJunk..
    to everyone surrounding it, as well..
    My better half is SteamJunk, yet I am informed.. I am SteamJunk ;) lol

    It's the size of the cloud, the tightness of the coil, and the power of juice that keeps me vaping.. SB
    I'm back.. perhaps.. or find me on facebook.. either or.. ;)
    busy at the moment.. leave me a conversation or tag me on fb..
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    Ha! Okay, cool. Tell them I really enjoyed the juice and I'm having fun playing around trying to get it. If I even come close, I'll keep it to myself lol!

    Btw, you all are based in Buffalo, right? I'm only an hour away in Rochester.

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    lmao I do.. we all get giggles.. and you are not the first, you will not be the last..
    you might come a tiny bit close, but it will never match the real thing.. I am sorry..
    and i have outdone it.. ;) if that is any help..

    i am in the south, South Carolina.. if you'd like, add me on facebook, be happy to have you in my other group..
    issues currently, so i am not in SteamJunk.. just look for me, i am all over steamjunk ;)

    It's the size of the cloud, the tightness of the coil, and the power of juice that keeps me vaping.. SB
    I'm back.. perhaps.. or find me on facebook.. either or.. ;)
    busy at the moment.. leave me a conversation or tag me on fb..
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    and what ever you do, please do not talk about steamjunk until the coast is clear lol..

    long story, Smoky had a temper tantrum :p

    It's the size of the cloud, the tightness of the coil, and the power of juice that keeps me vaping.. SB
    I'm back.. perhaps.. or find me on facebook.. either or.. ;)
    busy at the moment.. leave me a conversation or tag me on fb..
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    No sweat! Very cool to have met you. I'll check it out on FB!

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    cool :) will be bouncing from here to there ;)
 

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so now.. go enjoy your evening.. I should have know to ignore you unless you had something to contribute to posting a clone up.. now i will..

good luck with your juice making..
 

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From the get go, you are the one who's made a big deal out of and misread this thread, assuming that I wanted to clone for profit. That's EXACTLY where this thread went wrong. I don't give a flying fuck what you think my actual intentions are. I do care, however, what other members of this forum think, so that's why I feel the need to defend myself here.

And I've said it before, you're coming off as cocky and smug. I'm not the only one that sees it that way.


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From the get go, you are the one who's made a big deal out of and misread this thread, assuming that I wanted to clone for profit. That's EXACTLY where this thread went wrong. I don't give a flying fuck what you think my actual intentions are. I do care, however, what other members of this forum think, so that's why I feel the need to defend myself here.

And I've said it before, you're coming off as cocky and smug. I'm not the only one that sees it that way.


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actually... if you notice.. you were on my friends list on fb.. im not here much anymore due to shit like this.
the key word is were.. where'd ya go, jmoney? gona be friends.. and no where to be found.. mhmm..
actions speak a lot louder to me.. ;)
specially since, i do not know you. I dont remove people often, and i'd remember if i had removed you.

You clearly need a good spankin'...
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and if you think you are the man big enough to do it.. well I will wait.. Shark Vape.. :)
lmao.. Smoky didn't have a temper tantrum.. but this thread has been about jmoney and his quest to slam me..
I have dropped hints and actually tried to point out a few things on this juice, but apparently it's just not good enough..
it isnt ok to try and have fun and try to help someone learn to clone.. gotchya!

I really do not care.. its old juice from a ex boyfriend.. and I will still laugh.. cuz now this is day 2.. the thread is pretty much ruined..
so much bullshit here.. no wonder i stay away. well have at it.. and good luck.. it is what it is.
 

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actually... if you notice.. you were on my friends list on fb.. im not here much anymore due to shit like this.
the key word is were.. where'd ya go, jmoney? gona be friends.. and no where to be found.. mhmm..
actions speak a lot louder to me.. ;)
specially since, i do not know you. I dont remove people often, and i'd remember if i had removed you.



and if you think you are the man big enough to do it.. well I will wait.. Shark Vape.. :)
lmao.. Smoky didn't have a temper tantrum.. but this thread has been about jmoney and his quest to slam me..
I have dropped hints and actually tried to point out a few things on this juice, but apparently it's just not good enough..
it isnt ok to try and have fun and try to help someone learn to clone.. gotchya!

I really do not care.. its old juice from a ex boyfriend.. and I will still laugh.. cuz now this is day 2.. the thread is pretty much ruined..
so much bullshit here.. no wonder i stay away. well have at it.. and good luck.. it is what it is.
This thread has become about your elitist, smug attitude. I didn't keep you on my friends list because between our conversation and seeing some other things in Facebook threw red flags that led me to believe something was a bit off about you. You've definitely proved that here. I'm not slamming you, but expressing my disapproval of how you have treated people in this thread. You want to make it about me wanting this recipe from you in order to do something underhanded with it and that's not true.

It's about treating your treating people with disrespect. It actually has nothing at all to do with the juice.

Mods, go ahead and close the thread. Nothing productive is being done here other than Smoky getting an ego stroke off of others' struggle.


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Yeah, sorry I revived this guys. I really only wanted to do this for a friend as a birthday gift. I didn't mean to start a battle royale here. To be honest, that purple stuff tastes like the glue from kindergarten.
 

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Yeah, sorry I revived this guys. I really only wanted to do this for a friend as a birthday gift. I didn't mean to start a battle royale here. To be honest, that purple stuff tastes like the glue from kindergarten.
No sweat man. Definitely not your fault. To be honest, it's pretty much all my fault because I can't leave well enough alone.


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Oh I wasn't saying anything was wrong at all, its all good, just curious why it wasn't kept there....LOL
Long story... Not really worth the read, IMHO. it was basically done to prove the point that I had no ill intentions in creating the thread in the first place.


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Ghost Berry (smoke in mirrors clone)
. 5 blueberry (wild)
.5 sweet raspberry
.5 champagne
3 drops sweeter per 10ml
Steep 2 days to 2 weeks.

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Ghost Berry (smoke in mirrors clone)
. 5 blueberry (wild)
.5 sweet raspberry
.5 champagne
3 drops sweeter per 10ml
Steep 2 days to 2 weeks.

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PASCAL! this is NOT!!!! SteamJunk's Ghostberry... gesh..... thanks for the effort.. there is no grape, there is no champagne, there is no bubbles in Ghostberry. There is more to the juice than the wild guesses.. climbing in my mail, or just starting a thread on how to clone.. get real.. try again.. :)
 

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http://tjek.nu/r/3et2
I messed up the percentages see link above.

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bty... you might want to raise those percentages to 5% not .5%, and in fact you can take it and make it go like this:


5% blueberry (wild)
5% sweet raspberry
5% champagne
3% sweeter per 10ml

then you might taste the difference.. :)
 

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Always have to put your 2 cents in. I would have to say it's about as close as you can get. Use the link for the recipe. Final!

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Always have to put your 2 cents in. I would have to say it's about as close as you can get. Use the link for the recipe. Final!

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Actually, only gave you my thoughts on your recipe.. editing here is not hard. but i gave you what I like as far as percentages..
blueberry wild is a week flavor.. and no... there needed to be clarification, your recipe has nothing to do at all with this thread.

thanks :)
 

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Right your the master. Can we just call it done. You supposedly have the gold recipe so a clone or similar will have to do.

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Right your the master. Can we just call it done. You supposedly have the gold recipe so a clone or similar will have to do.

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I do have the original recipe for SteamJunk's... you posted your's is a smoke and mirrors clone..
so wtf? sounds like 2 different juices to me, and if you aim to have "something close" then anything will do..

but i like to clone as close to the original, not just a what ever will do.
 
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Give it up already. This thread is out of control. You have whatever recipe good for you. No one cares at this point, we are after a clone nothing more, nothing less.
It's a very close clone I posted. I have seen another clone recipe on erecipes using grape as I first posted. Let's not get out of hand again. The whole purpose is to make a clone not for bragging rights of who has the real recipe.

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Actually, if you had tasted it, you'd know.. there is no bubbles.. no grape..

Give what up? lmao your Smoke aned Mirrors just got turned out.. and funny thing is Pascal knows no better..
its not close, not by a long shot. if you were close, again, i have no issues with saying so. but you are not. Try again..
in fact, buy it, then try.. cloning something without even tasting it is stupid.. but hey i know.. you are too cheap to put some work into it..

facts.. they get you ever single time.
 

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As usall Smoky Blue you have no idea what your talking about. Did you try the clone that you can make these asumptions? Yes it was compared to the real thing. If you want to keep putting people down for trying may I suggest Crack pipe news feeds, they need help there.

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Never said dont try.. in fact I even said if you get close, sure.. will let you know.
but.. mix yours, look at the original.. you are missing color #1..

Again, there is no grape nor champagne in it.. yes I have the original recipe.
Mind you, I left SteamJunk over a year ago, and if Chris has made changes, which I highly doubt..

Smoke and Mirrors lmao.. who the hell is that?

I still have Andre THOV owner as one of my friends.. so yeah I know that juice and the rest of his line, rather well..
and if you want to keep baiting.. go for it. but im ignoring you now. I said what I had to.. try again, and good luck.

but it really is not cool to open a thread this old. and then you go on with this bs..never mind "calling me out".. what a joke.
 

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I said what I had to...
You didn't have to say anything at all. No one asked you to confirm if they managed to come up with the real recipe. You keep forgetting that. The guy came up with something that he thought tasted similar and wanted to share it, but you can't leave well enough alone. Apparently, I can't either. ;)


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Ghostberry comes in clear and purple. Purple coming from the dye in flavor. So how much do you really know, anyway last comment and you can say whatever you think you know but I'm convinced your just looking for someone to argue with. Wether you believe it or not " smoke in mirrors" is close not saying it's spot on but close. Don't know why you insist on making a big deal over nothing. This is the last post. I'm not a believer you know anything about the while steam junk line.

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Ghostberry has never been sold as a clear flavor. Never.
I know more about the line than you wish to acknowledge, as well as the person behind it.
It was me that helped out when Chris Cooper started, it was me sharing info and ideas.
It was me behind Steam Cream and his other, Banana Ritz came from that. I dont receive any money for it..
in fact, I believe everything he told me, while he swore it was me and him, together. yeah right.

and the fact I know Andre, and most that work at THOV.. should tell you something, as I previously have posted, even more than a year ago.
The fact you opened a dead thread.. and your last post, lends me to believe you want to push this.

and Jmoney, I will always speak up on this, as like i said before.. I did have part in his line.
I never wanted things to end the way they did, but he did. I tried to believe him, and he only let me down.
it happens like that. eh.. and I have so moved on.. i rarely visit here now, as I have my own things I am involved with.
I did remake Ghostberry, as vaping the amount of flavoring (with dye) is not good.
Not when there are clearly other better options.
I tried to talk him into cleaning it up.. but as you can see in the shop.. it still has not been done.
oh well.

and yes there is a clean version out.. but that is not for either here or there.
 

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You just don't get it. No one is looking for your thumbs up on the clone. Let it go.


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ghosterry a few different type of blue berry i think, nothing stand alone is close to how good ghost is
 

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and what and where is this smoke in mirrors? ghostberry costing me 60 bucks a week is to much
 

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Just a clone of Ghostberry

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not.. there is no champagne in it at all..
and what and where is this smoke in mirrors? ghostberry costing me 60 bucks a week is to much

finally.. maybe.. this one might have a clue what it actually tastes like..
unlike the rest of the people in this thread. :)
 

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ghosterry a few different type of blue berry i think, nothing stand alone is close to how good ghost is


lol... perhaps.. but it has to be the right blueberry.. and there is a few other things in there.. :)
but def not champange!!! :rolleyes:
 
I'll probably get harassed for opening this back up, but here's my two cents
Ghostberry stars off purple and then more dye is added from what I've heard.
Lorrans blueberry is purple and there raspberry is red.
I would try these 2 with 3-5% sweetener.
This is just my two cents I haven't tried to clone this flavor it's magical though. Heard the owners girlfriend leaked the recipe out to a few people to but this is all speculation.
 

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I'll probably get harassed for opening this back up, but here's my two cents
Ghostberry stars off purple and then more dye is added from what I've heard.
Lorrans blueberry is purple and there raspberry is red.
I would try these 2 with 3-5% sweetener.
This is just my two cents I haven't tried to clone this flavor it's magical though. Heard the owners girlfriend leaked the recipe out to a few people to but this is all speculation.


lmao.. I wont harass you, Matt.. but the others might.. ;)

and to think.. I am the ex.. the one that helped him with his recipes.. and his group, and tried to promote..
and to think his next one leaked it.. bwahahaa!!! ahh well.. easy come, easy go.. :cheers:

however.. i know.. wrong raspberry.. :p
 
lmao.. I wont harass you, Matt.. but the others might.. ;)

and to think.. I am the ex.. the one that helped him with his recipes.. and his group, and tried to promote..
and to think his next one leaked it.. bwahahaa!!! ahh well.. easy come, easy go.. :cheers:

however.. i know.. wrong raspberry.. :p
Lol
I do know for a fact that that is the blueberry used in this liquid which gives is 60% of the color and provides majority of the inhale taste with the slight cool in the exhale as well. Guess we just need to narrow down the raspberry and play with some percentages. Ghostberry is a strong flavor regardless and the concentrates are highly potent so I'd say a total flavor percentage is anywhere from 15-25%. I'll try to narrow down a raspberry and post back in a few days when I have a recipe going.
 
loranns bluberry is definetly what is in ghostberry now the raspberry is what i cant quite narrow down. tried TFA, CAP ,LO and its not there. Whatever raspberry there using has its own little sour bite to it or there adding a touch of tart to there mix. im gonna try some more raspberry extracts and see what i can gather up once again.
 

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loranns bluberry is definetly what is in ghostberry now the raspberry is what i cant quite narrow down. tried TFA, CAP ,LO and its not there. Whatever raspberry there using has its own little sour bite to it or there adding a touch of tart to there mix. im gonna try some more raspberry extracts and see what i can gather up once again.

You might want to retry that list for raspberry ;) I know it's got to be in there somewhere..
Maybe the magic is hiding it :p but there is no tart added... nopes... :vino:
 
Ok i broke down and bought another bottle lol revisited my recipes and this is what ive come up with so far
Blueberry LO 15%
Raspberry Sweet TFA 10% Or switch with Capellas Raspberry
Sweetener TFA 5%
Its not bad but its still not there, i will continue to go until im near perfect.
This flavor is to good lol i have to clone it
 
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