Realitvely new vaping and looking for a good cloud setup. Was thinking of getting the smok mag with the prince tank and maybe the rba deck? Will I get bigger clouds with the rba deck?
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It all depends, there are many variables that go into making a very big cloud.
1) Is the coil
2) Is the type device the coil is in, mainly how restrictive the airflow can or can not be, typically, an RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer) will out perform almost any tank system, RBA is a generic term, Re-Buildable Atomizer of any sort, the RBA for the Smok tank is just a rebuildable coil head, just FYI. There are several type of rebuildables, RDA's as stated before, RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer), and lastly the RDTA (rebuildable dripping/tank atomizer) which can bounce between the two types and perform about in the middle between the two others.
3) Next after airflow is power, how much power is being applied to the coil/coils, more power = hotter coils, hotter coils = more vapor
4) Wicking material, the better the material is at wicking, or faster it can wick especially with very hot coils = more juice reaching the coils at one firing = more vapor
5) Juice. PG and VG ratio content, higher the VG percentage, more clouds are possible
6) Lastly, and many, many people fail to take this one into consideration, your "Lung Capacity", how much vapor and air can you tolerably take in at once is the biggest contributing factor. Person with a large chest and upper body, 9 out of 10 times will higher lung capacity than a skinnier and narrower framed person will
Section 2
Device, or mod really only plays a minor to medium role in clouding, yes higher the power it can do helps, but, from the list above, Lungs > Power > Airflow > Coil/# of Coils/Type of Coils > Juice.
In my experience, understanding the physics and mentally visualizing the airflow, air path, juice wicking, and finally the cool air mixing with hot humid air and the vortex before it hits your mouth before doing a build will gain you more than lower ohms or higher wattage. You really want to cloud, get an RDA, you want a decent cloud but device that you can carry around without worrying about constant refilling every 5 to 10 hits, get a Prince tank by all means. Going into rebuilding, study and watch videos on "Ohm's Law", as it leads into the most important, Battery Safety, this is electricity we are dealing with, closer you get to a battery's limits, closer you get to flirting with disaster. Mechanical and unregulated it is easy, Fresh Charge Battery Voltage (generally 4.2v per battery, single and parallel battery configurations is 4.2v X 1, Series battery configurations that is 4.2v X Number of batteries), example 4.2v/Ohms=Max Amps. Regulated like the mod you listed the formula is different, as it is wattage, not the Ohms that play a factor, Wattage Set/Lowest Battery Voltage Available/Mod Efficiency Rating=Maximum Amps. Going into clouding and rebuilding, is not a walk in the park, nor plug and play, there are some serious calculations you have to do, every rebuild, and it takes time to study it all and grasp it before you should attempt really diving into it.
*Disclaimer* I am a very big anti-SMOK products person due to their quality control, and most importantly, the power they claim their devices can attain and handle, plus the fact that they are making tanks and coil heads to go that far and flirt with disaster, especially panning them to the inexperienced vapors out there in a plug and play format. So I will say this, take it slow and cautiously, study what you can about rebuilding and clouding as much as you can before making either any investment into it financially or before you start going bigger and bigger in your clouding journey. And especially ask questions, the only stupid question would be the one not asked, for that simple question could be the difference between a safe clouding vape and a trip to the hospital.
Be safe out there.
1) Is the coil
2) Is the type device the coil is in, mainly how restrictive the airflow can or can not be, typically, an RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer) will out perform almost any tank system, RBA is a generic term, Re-Buildable Atomizer of any sort, the RBA for the Smok tank is just a rebuildable coil head, just FYI. There are several type of rebuildables, RDA's as stated before, RTA (rebuildable tank atomizer), and lastly the RDTA (rebuildable dripping/tank atomizer) which can bounce between the two types and perform about in the middle between the two others.
3) Next after airflow is power, how much power is being applied to the coil/coils, more power = hotter coils, hotter coils = more vapor
4) Wicking material, the better the material is at wicking, or faster it can wick especially with very hot coils = more juice reaching the coils at one firing = more vapor
5) Juice. PG and VG ratio content, higher the VG percentage, more clouds are possible
6) Lastly, and many, many people fail to take this one into consideration, your "Lung Capacity", how much vapor and air can you tolerably take in at once is the biggest contributing factor. Person with a large chest and upper body, 9 out of 10 times will higher lung capacity than a skinnier and narrower framed person will
Section 2
Device, or mod really only plays a minor to medium role in clouding, yes higher the power it can do helps, but, from the list above, Lungs > Power > Airflow > Coil/# of Coils/Type of Coils > Juice.
In my experience, understanding the physics and mentally visualizing the airflow, air path, juice wicking, and finally the cool air mixing with hot humid air and the vortex before it hits your mouth before doing a build will gain you more than lower ohms or higher wattage. You really want to cloud, get an RDA, you want a decent cloud but device that you can carry around without worrying about constant refilling every 5 to 10 hits, get a Prince tank by all means. Going into rebuilding, study and watch videos on "Ohm's Law", as it leads into the most important, Battery Safety, this is electricity we are dealing with, closer you get to a battery's limits, closer you get to flirting with disaster. Mechanical and unregulated it is easy, Fresh Charge Battery Voltage (generally 4.2v per battery, single and parallel battery configurations is 4.2v X 1, Series battery configurations that is 4.2v X Number of batteries), example 4.2v/Ohms=Max Amps. Regulated like the mod you listed the formula is different, as it is wattage, not the Ohms that play a factor, Wattage Set/Lowest Battery Voltage Available/Mod Efficiency Rating=Maximum Amps. Going into clouding and rebuilding, is not a walk in the park, nor plug and play, there are some serious calculations you have to do, every rebuild, and it takes time to study it all and grasp it before you should attempt really diving into it.
*Disclaimer* I am a very big anti-SMOK products person due to their quality control, and most importantly, the power they claim their devices can attain and handle, plus the fact that they are making tanks and coil heads to go that far and flirt with disaster, especially panning them to the inexperienced vapors out there in a plug and play format. So I will say this, take it slow and cautiously, study what you can about rebuilding and clouding as much as you can before making either any investment into it financially or before you start going bigger and bigger in your clouding journey. And especially ask questions, the only stupid question would be the one not asked, for that simple question could be the difference between a safe clouding vape and a trip to the hospital.
Be safe out there.
@IMFire3605 Good post. Small disagreement.. power and airflow then coil and lung capacity. Because.. lung capacity doesn't matter if you aren't producing the vapor. Also, exhale technique... position of your mouth on exhale... you want a straight and steady flow of clouds.
For clouds, you are going to wet your wick before each pull but you need high power to vaporize the juice and high airflow to reduce the heat of the vapor you inhale.
Aside from what IMF stated, your coil should cover as much surface area as possible and heat as fast as possible, so a parallel coil will heat faster than a straight coil, but watch your resistance.
A dual coil set up, with 6 wraps of 20ga kanthal on a 3.0mm to 3.5 mm id core is a nice cloud build. Mind you, you need a lot of wattage to fire this set up properly and airflow to manage the heat.
For clouds, you are going to wet your wick before each pull but you need high power to vaporize the juice and high airflow to reduce the heat of the vapor you inhale.
Aside from what IMF stated, your coil should cover as much surface area as possible and heat as fast as possible, so a parallel coil will heat faster than a straight coil, but watch your resistance.
A dual coil set up, with 6 wraps of 20ga kanthal on a 3.0mm to 3.5 mm id core is a nice cloud build. Mind you, you need a lot of wattage to fire this set up properly and airflow to manage the heat.