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Don't forget: If both Trump and Pence go down in flames - you know who is next in line. Be careful what you wish for...
Not what I wish for.
I wish for honest competent representatives in government that are dedicated to the betterment of life for thecitizens of the USA.
Yeah I know... A pipe dream...Better odds of winning the lottery.
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Not what I wish for.
I wish for honest competent representatives in government that are dedicated to the betterment of life for thecitizens of the USA.
Yeah I know... A pipe dream...Better odds of winning the lottery.
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Fake reply. You jumped right over the issue.

The reality for anyone who is maybe a bit too hippy hoppy to see both Trump and Pence crash and burn is, do you really want to see Paul Ryan in the driver's seat? That bus going over the cliff and privatizing things like social security and Medicare when it does is only a couple few more 3 stoioges dope slaps from being in charge.
 

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Fake reply. You jumped right over the issue.

The reality for anyone who is maybe a bit too hippy hoppy to see both Trump and Pence crash and burn is, do you really want to see Paul Ryan in the driver's seat? That bus going over the cliff and privatizing things like social security and Medicare when it does is only a couple few more 3 stoioges dope slaps from being in charge.
And when this happens I will blame all the idiotic trumpkins that voted for an idiot to be president. All because they believed fake news and didn't want to vote for a women.
 

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And when this happens I will blame all the idiotic trumpkins that voted for an idiot to be president. All because they believed fake news and didn't want to vote for a women.
Nothing to do with a woman, all to do with what kind of woman she is. And NO, I did not vote for Trump nor Hillary. O' didn't vote for Bernie either!
 

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Why not worked for Hillary haters, the birthers, etc.

amazing thing is I have not heard one liberal call Trump the Anti Christ...

I am just purely enjoying the hell out of the pure comedy of this presidency.
And the comedy of the Emperor Orange Trumpeteers.

I'm with you there Cromwell the entertainment factor is high . I've never seen such a thing in my life . CNN last night went all night with "president in crisis " the guys been in 120 days and they have him impeached for really nothing , no smoking gun just newspaper stories . Sure the guy is a ass , but I never ever seen the media so out to get someone. Trump was not my choice but my god it's insane !! The whole Russian thing is crazy . Obama got a love fest . No matter what he did . This is a complete 180 the press has proved they can't be trusted . It's a sad state .


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Keep it light bro! Hopefully cheetoh head will let you through that giant wall.

Its definitely worse for Bill's sex life.

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Even though I rarely agree with you or Ej . Both of you always make good points . It's always good to hear a different point of view you guys have changed my mind on many things . It's what it's all about . And I know your a good guy Bird you do allot to help and mentor others in your situation.
God bless America we need it bad ! No make that God Bless the American people !


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Even though I rarely agree with you or Ej . Both of you always make good points . It's always good to hear a different point of view you guys have changed my mind on many things . It's what it's all about . And I know your a good guy Bird you do allot to help and mentor others in your situation.
God bless America we need it bad ! No make that God Bless the American people !


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Thank you bro; and, you, hazy and hellcatryr are proof that that people can agree to disagree and still be friends.
I respect you guys and enjoy the conversations. I think of you as friends.

Truth be told though, my own perspective has changed on alot of things through facts that I've read in these threads. Before i responded to anything i was a trump supporter, the more i read and thought about it, the more my opinion changed, yet i still voted for him. Rarely do I believe anything I see in an opinion piece; and, the clips I post from comedy Central or HBO are strictly done in humor. I enjoy playing the devil's advocate. I do it all day long at work; and, can't turn it off.


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I'm with you there Cromwell the entertainment factor is high . I've never seen such a thing in my life . CNN last night went all night with "president in crisis " the guys been in 120 days and they have him impeached for really nothing , no smoking gun just newspaper stories . Sure the guy is a ass , but I never ever seen the media so out to get someone. Trump was not my choice but my god it's insane !! The whole Russian thing is crazy . Obama got a love fest . No matter what he did . This is a complete 180 the press has proved they can't be trusted . It's a sad state .


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What the hell do you expect?

First Trump uses the press by calling in to all his best buddy talk and news shows, expecting an audience whenever he picks up the phone. So I guess the press was great - but only when Trumpy called and the press kissed his ass.

Then Trumpy starts to vilify the press, even turning on Fox Newz after he falsely attributes quotes that never happened to a Fox reporter. At that point even Fox steps forward to assert the quote was fake. (The Angela Merkel incident.)

Considering more than half the shit that comes out of his mouth is either a lie, inflated or never happened... what the hell is the press supposed to do? Sit back and ignore all of (sh)it? The only this insane thing there is Trump can't shut up. He is his own worst enema enemy when it comes to the press. If he would just shut up - or at least stay on script - the press would have 75% less crap to assess as to what is real and what isn't. But Trump set the precedent and keeps repeating the process. (What's that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result.) You are barking up the wrong tree if you want to blame the media for the disaster, the real disaster.
 

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Fake reply. You jumped right over the issue.

The reality for anyone who is maybe a bit too hippy hoppy to see both Trump and Pence crash and burn is, do you really want to see Paul Ryan in the driver's seat? That bus going over the cliff and privatizing things like social security and Medicare when it does is only a couple few more 3 stoioges dope slaps from being in charge.
Ryan would not survive long as president either.
And I am not sure that the rest of the Repubs in congress would fall on their swords for the Rabid republican.
 

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What the hell do you expect?

First Trump uses the press by calling in to all his best buddy talk and news shows, expecting an audience whenever he picks up the phone. So I guess the press was great - but only when Trumpy called and the press kissed his ass.

Then Trumpy starts to vilify the press, even turning on Fox Newz after he falsely attributes quotes that never happened to a Fox reporter. At that point even Fox steps forward to assert the quote was fake. (The Angela Merkel incident.)

Considering more than half the shit that comes out of his mouth is either a lie, inflated or never happened... what the hell is the press supposed to do? Sit back and ignore all of (sh)it? The only this insane thing there is Trump can't shut up. He is his own worst enema enemy when it comes to the press. If he would just shut up - or at least stay on script - the press would have 75% less crap to assess as to what is real and what isn't. But Trump set the precedent and keeps repeating the process. (What's that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result.) You are barking up the wrong tree if you want to blame the media for the disaster, the real disaster.

I do blame them ! Were the fuck were they when Obama gave millions in cash to Iran? Where were they with IRS ! Or trading gitmo prisoners? Or the Lie of Obamacare? Where were the special prosecutors when you had the Attorney General in contempt of congress? Sure Trump is not perfect but he's been in 120 days . There is no evidence of anything ! They have made it a disaster and are hurting progress.


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Ryan would not survive long as president either.
And I am not sure that the rest of the Repubs in congress would fall on their swords for the Rabid republican.
I would hope none would.

The biggest problem overall is that we only have only 2 sides of the same coin.

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I do blame them ! Were the fuck were they when Obama gave millions in cash to Iran? Where were they with IRS ! Or trading gitmo prisoners? Or the Lie of Obamacare? Where were the special prosecutors when you had the Attorney General in contempt of congress? Sure Trump is not perfect but he's been in 120 days . There is no evidence of anything ! They have made it a disaster and are hurting progress.


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And when Regan supported Iraq and the Taliban? And drug trafficking in Central America?
 

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I'm with you there Cromwell the entertainment factor is high . I've never seen such a thing in my life . CNN last night went all night with "president in crisis " the guys been in 120 days and they have him impeached for really nothing , no smoking gun just newspaper stories . Sure the guy is a ass , but I never ever seen the media so out to get someone. Trump was not my choice but my god it's insane !! The whole Russian thing is crazy . Obama got a love fest . No matter what he did . This is a complete 180 the press has proved they can't be trusted . It's a sad state .


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I am glad you think it's nothing. He has shown exactly zero integrity. For a president that is an essential attribute.

He has used his presidency to elevate his family and friends. I don't see one of his decisions as president made in any way subjective. All of them have been biased. This is not the behavior of a true leader. I had hoped for far better from him.

This is all a result of his own undoing. Loose lips sink ships. He has shared classified information. Where there is smoke there is fire.

The special council will get to the bottom of it all and if there is sufficient evidence the law will prevail.

He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut instead of running to Twitter.
 

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Has any other president in history so openly used his position so much to enrich and empower his clan?

Damn had he been Hillary, Chelsea would have been an ambassador or unpaid employ privy to government secrets and hawkiing US real estate to foreign Lands.
 

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And as the Drain the Swamp effort continues in KY.

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - The seller of a house where Gov. Matt Bevin's family is living invested in a Louisville medical device company partly owned by Bevin a few weeks before the sale of the house at nearly a million dollars below market value.

The Courier-Journal reported Friday that state records show Neil Ramsey gained a substantial tax credit when he invested $300,000 in Neuronetrix Solutions LLC through state government's "Angel Investment Act" program.

Ramsey has been a major donor to Bevin political causes. Bevin appointed Ramsey last summer to the board of the Kentucky Retirement Systems.

Bevin Communications Director Amanda Stamper didn't return phone calls and emails seeking comment on the investment. Ramsey didn't return a phone call or emails asking about the investment or talk to a reporter in person.
 

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I do blame them ! Were the fuck were they when Obama gave millions in cash to Iran? Where were they with IRS ! Or trading gitmo prisoners? Or the Lie of Obamacare? Where were the special prosecutors when you had the Attorney General in contempt of congress? Sure Trump is not perfect but he's been in 120 days . There is no evidence of anything ! They have made it a disaster and are hurting progress.


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Typical Trumpette. Ignore Trump bullshit because... Obama. :slowclap:
 

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What do I value in my choice for a President? No experience, no training, no expertise, no education, not grounded in reality. Why those would be the same qualities I would look for when choosing a cardiac surgeon! :facepalm:
 

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Heck the president does not even have to submit a resume to get the job.
You have to do that to get a job slinging burgers...
 

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Trump bows to muslim king?

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I'm sorry, but this one here is a but to far. I always found it funny when the other side bashes any world leader for showing respect to another world leader.

The least anyone can do is show respect to another culture when visiting them in their home. Even if its a meating with a country we are not allies with or have a strained relationship with. Some things are just customary. Like eating with the right hand at an Indian restaurant.

I'm pissed that the Saudi kind didn't rip off Trump's hairpiece

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I'm sorry, but this one here is a but to far. I always found it funny when the other side bashes any world leader for showing respect to another world leader.

The least anyone can do is show respect to another culture when visiting them in their home. Even if its a meating with a country we are not allies with or have a strained relationship with. Some things are just customary. Like eating with the right hand at an Indian restaurant.

I'm still pissed that the Saudi kind didn't rip off the hairpiece

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He should meat that dude with a tube steak.

Oh wait, I forgot, he has oil....
 

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I'm sorry, but this one here is a but to far. I always found it funny when the other side bashes any world leader for showing respect to another world leader.

The least anyone can do is show respect to another culture when visiting them in their home. Even if its a meating with a country we are not allies with or have a strained relationship with. Some things are just customary. Like eating with the right hand at an Indian restaurant.

I'm pissed that the Saudi kind didn't rip off Trump's hairpiece

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I agree but why double standards. When Michelle Obama went to the middle East and didn't scarf her face everyone was in an uproar. Trumps wife and daughter just went without scarfing and no big deal.

The world is full of hypocrites.
 

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I agree but why double standards. When Michelle Obama went to the middle East and didn't scarf her face everyone was in an uproar. Trumps wife and daughter just went without scarfing and no big deal.

The world is full of hypocrites.
I agree...
Ideally it's just the one side finding something meaningless to bitch about and make a news headline.

I do think both women should wear the headscarves -if and only if- it is culturally respectful. I don't know enough about that culture to speak to visitors ethics.

I had a friend who visited Egypt and is a Muslim woman born south of cairo. According to her; because, she was American she was not required to wear it. Maybe that's a subculture or country thing. Who am I to know?

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I'm sorry, but this one here is a but to far. I always found it funny when the other side bashes any world leader for showing respect to another world leader.

The least anyone can do is show respect to another culture when visiting them in their home. Even if its a meating with a country we are not allies with or have a strained relationship with. Some things are just customary. Like eating with the right hand at an Indian restaurant.

I'm pissed that the Saudi kind didn't rip off Trump's hairpiece

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Only reason I posted it is to show the Hypocrisy of the right.

And to a Muslim too!

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There is enough hypocrisy all around we don't need you to point it out . We are well aware.


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So why all the reminders during the Obama presidency from the right then?

I just observe obvious memory issues and do not want those afflicted to forget.
that's me always helpful.
 

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Wow... delusion much?
It was not about her being a woman.
It was about her being a lying treasonous she-hag who betrayed her country.

Thank goodness the Electoral College had enough common sense to
override you moonbats and elect Trump. :crazy:

Yeah but there was no intent to enrich herself and family .....so it doesn't count . But trump sold a mansion in Florida for a profit .......obviously this was the Russians funneling money to him


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So why all the reminders during the Obama presidency from the right then?

I just observe obvious memory issues and do not want those afflicted to forget.
that's me always helpful.

You are helpful that I give you !


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I agree but why double standards. When Michelle Obama went to the middle East and didn't scarf her face everyone was in an uproar. Trumps wife and daughter just went without scarfing and no big deal.

The world is full of hypocrites.
Well. There aren't a bunch of blue eyed blonds running around the middle east. I'm sure they won't be confused with a muslim woman and therefore be subjugated to wearing a scarf.
 

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Wow... delusion much?
It was not about her being a woman.
It was about her being a lying treasonous she-hag who betrayed her country.

Thank goodness the Electoral College had enough common sense to
override you moonbats and elect Trump. :crazy:
Yep, just like with Obama it wasn't about him being black either. Give me a break. Atleast own the shit.
 

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Wow... delusion much?
It was not about her being a woman.
It was about her being a lying treasonous she-hag who betrayed her country.

Thank goodness the Electoral College had enough common sense to
override you moonbats and elect Trump. :crazy:
And that is fake news.
 

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It wasn't about him being Black . He got elected twice you racist idiot !


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It's easy to call someone a racist when they are pointing out something that is because of color. I know not everyone was against Obama because he was black. But he was put through the ringer constantly because he was black.

You can pretend all you want to but I saw it first hand. I didn't vote for him either. That is not what I am talking about. It's all the condescending remarks people say that show their true colors.

How many times did the Obamas make the news for inappropriate behavior? None. But people put down Obama all the time. It's ignorance at its worst.

I am so sick of people hiding behind excuses in order to facilitate bias.

Now we have Trump who has no moral standing and has been caught saying absolutely horrendous crap and sent some of the dumbest tweets. But he gets a pass. Why do you think that is? Because he is rich and white. If Obama said and did half the crap Trump has done we would have had a revolution to remove him. Sickening
 

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It's easy to call someone a racist when they are pointing out something that is because of color. I know not everyone was against Obama because he was black. But he was put through the ringer constantly because he was black.

You can pretend all you want to but I saw it first hand. I didn't vote for him either. That is not what I am talking about. It's all the condescending remarks people say that show their true colors.

How many times did the Obamas make the news for inappropriate behavior? None. But people put down Obama all the time. It's ignorance at its worst.

I am so sick of people hiding behind excuses in order to facilitate bias.

Now we have Trump who has no moral standing and has been caught saying absolutely horrendous crap and sent some of the dumbest tweets. But he gets a pass. Why do you think that is? Because he is rich and white. If Obama said and did half the crap Trump has done we would have had a revolution to remove him. Sickening

You really buy what your saying ? Obama got shit said about him because he was a socialist, an apologist and the most devising president we ever had . It had nothing to do with him being Black it had everything to do with his character. What has Trump done so awful? I can name several anti American anti police , anti Christian things Obama has done . What racist horrible thing has Trump done in 120 days ?


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You really buy what your saying ? Obama got shit said about him because he was a socialist, an apologist and the most devising president we ever had . It had nothing to do with him being Black it had everything to do with his character. What has Trump done so awful? I can name several anti American anti police , anti Christian things Obama has done . What racist horrible thing has Trump done in 120 days ?


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Just the answer I expected .


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Aren't you witty. I am not about to get into some ridiculous argument about subjective material. The bottom line is Obama showed far more restraint and far better diplomacy skills in his first week in office than Trump has in 120 days.

So you can take all your fake news (by Trump standards that's what it is) and keep pretending Trump is some innocent victim all you want. Trump is an idiot and has far exceeded his cooing ability as president of the United States. His response to turmoil is child like. He thinks of women, immigrants, the poor and most other non-privileged people as pawns to be used for his gain. Just look at the people he appointed. All rich people who think just like him. You will not provide for the entire USA by utilizing skills and mindset of only people who agree with you. So keep on believing what you want to believe.

I don't need to convince you of anything. Everything comes out in the wash. We just have to wait until this load is done.
 

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Aren't you witty. I am not about to get into some ridiculous argument about subjective material. The bottom line is Obama showed far more restraint and far better diplomacy skills in his first week in office than Trump has in 120 days.

So you can take all your fake news (by Trump standards that's what it is) and keep pretending Trump is some innocent victim all you want. Trump is an idiot and has far exceeded his cooing ability as president of the United States. His response to turmoil is child like. He thinks of women, immigrants, the poor and most other non-privileged people as pawns to be used for his gain. Just look at the people he appointed. All rich people who think just like him. You will not provide for the entire USA by utilizing skills and mindset of only people who agree with you. So keep on believing what you want to believe.

I don't need to convince you of anything. Everything comes out in the wash. We just have to wait until this load is done.

In other words you have nothing . You make definitive statements then say they are subjective. I'm guessing Trump should of hired unsuccessful people to run the government that don't think like him ? Is that how you would run things ? Immigrants he is against? He's married to one ! His number 1 thing is to bring jobs back in the USA , I don't think that's using the poor as pawns I think that's helping people . You are pawn ! Your just to dumb to know it . But hey if it makes you feel good to say Trump sucks like the rest of the kids good for you . Obama was an apologist. He loved those that want to hurt us most . He was gutless and thought if I'm nice nobody will hurt us ! Real diplomacy give everything away just don't think I'm mean !


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