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That seems a bit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,silly.

Do you eat a shit sandwich at a restaurant if they don't have any food you like? You know, in "protest"? :teehee:

I would have just stayed home. ;)

I will not argue with anyone dumb enough to STILL support trump.
Plenty of rocks outside for that.
 

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The problem with the Libertarians, as a party, is that their candidate was a globalist.

That's why libertarians didn't vote Libertarian and the only people that did were ex-Obomba globalist fucks like Cromwell.
Their candidate was a globalist because their benefactors are (Koch brothers). Can't oppose who is paying the bills.

The Kochs just have a more naive vision of how globalism should work than most Davos neoliberals. They think that a global playground for billionaires can be achieved without the high taxes and government control to maintain a massive security state necessary to keep crushing any resistance to that.

The Libertarian Party always believed in near absolute business freedom and an example of that belief is hiring who they want from anywhere in the world and pay them what they want AKA globalism.
 
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I will not argue with anyone dumb enough to STILL support trump.
Plenty of rocks outside for that.

Bitch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please.

You've been arguing with Trump supporters for over 18 months, including right now. You're going to keep doing it.

How many times have you taken me off ignore?

How many times have you gone back to that other thread after you said you wouldn't post there? How many times did you read that thread TODAY?

If there is anything you've proven time and time again is that you have no convictions, no self respect and no self control. I don't doubt for minute you'll still argue with a Trump supporter and probably will do it within the hour. No matter what your dumb ass says right now.
 

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The Libertarian Party always believed in near absolute business freedom and an example of that belief is hiring who they want from anywhere in the world and pay them what they want AKA globalism.

???

Business freedom is globalism?

I'm going to go out on a very strong limb here and suggest we have different definitions of globalism. Globalists don't believe in business freedom.

(l) libertarians believe in the free market. It has nothing to do with globalism or nationalism. I'm not sure where you get your information, but it's flawed.

Most libertarians left the Libertarian Party(or never joined) because of Johnson's globalist immigration(open borders) and other policies are not conducive to small government. See how that works? Small government and globalism don't go together. A free market and small government go together quite well. That means workers make what the market demands. No min wage laws which are not free market and require a large government.

In short, it's the Parties stance on immigration that makes them globalists, not their stance on the free market. An important distinction.
 
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Business freedom is globalism?

I'm going to go out on a very strong limb here and suggest we have different definitions of globalism. Globalists don't believe in business freedom.

(l) libertarians believe in the free market. It has nothing to do with globalism or nationalism. I'm not sure where you get your information, but it's flawed.

Most libertarians left the Libertarian Party(or never joined) because of Johnson's globalist immigration(open borders) and other policies are not conducive to small government. See how that works? Small government and globalism don't go together. A free market and small government go together quite well. That means workers make what the market demands. No min wage laws which are not free market and require a large government.

In short, it's the Parties stance on immigration that makes them globalists, not the free market. An important distinction.


Immigration
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Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.

Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.

Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.

A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.

Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.

Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.

Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.

https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/
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Immigration
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Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.

Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.

Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.

A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.

Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.

Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.

Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.

https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/
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Not globalist?

Absolutely is globalist.

Like I said;


In short, it's the Parties stance on immigration that makes them globalists, not their stance on the free market. An important distinction.

It's not free market(business freedom, wages) that make them globalists, it's the open borders. ;)
 

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Absolutely is globalist.

Like I said;




It's not free market(business freedom, wages) that make them globalists, it's the open borders. ;)
The most fundamental aspects of business freedom is the ability to do business where you want (produce supplies in poor countries) while hiring who you want (immigrants) for as little as they will accept. Commerce is quite global so that is where business people demand the most 'freedom' including Libertarians. Not good for everyone else but the wealthiest winners of that scheme.

I guess you are trying to define Libertarian Nationalism if such a thing can somehow not be cognitively dissonant. For one, it would require much more government regulation and intrusion into business affairs to make that happen. Even lax economic nationalism like Steve Bannon is championing doesn't seem to be Libertarianism in any form.
 
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As I am overall completely disgusted with our elected officials, I am thinking of bringing the Whig Party back...

http://www.history.com/topics/whig-party

Or starting the Vape Party and running for Prez myself.:crazy:

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The most fundamental aspects of business freedom is the ability to business where you want (produce supplies in poor countries) while hiring who you want (immigrants) for as little as they will accept. Commerce is quite global so that is where business people demand the most 'freedom' including Libertarians. Not good for everyone else but the wealthiest winners of that scheme.

I guess you are trying to define Libertarian Nationalism if such a thing can somehow not be cognitively dissonant. For one, it would require much more government regulation and intrusion into business affairs to make that happen. Even lax economic nationalism like Steve Bannon is championing doesn't seem to be Libertarianism in any form.

It appears that you're trying to buttonhole the free market into the Libertarian Parties definition. You can certainly have a free market in a Nation without full open borders. And no, you certainly don't have to have more government regulation to achieve it nor any business intrusion. You simply enforce immigration laws that must be enforced anyway.

There is no rule to the free market of a Nation that there be no borders. In a free market, if a business owner wants cheap labor, they can always produce in another country and import. In other words, they can go where the labor is, there is no free market rule that the labor must be imported into the nation. There is a reason iphones are imported, same concept. US owned. China made. That's every bit a free market as importing labor(in it's basic form).

Whether you choose to see it or not, immigration and the free market are separate issues. You can have a free market without immigration and you can have immigration without a free market. That the Libertarian Party links them together is a Libertarian Party construct, not a hard and fast rule.
 

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It appears that you're trying to buttonhole the free market into the Libertarian Parties definition. You can certainly have a free market in a Nation without full open borders. And no, you certainly don't have to have more government regulation to achieve it nor any business intrusion. You simply enforce immigration laws that must be enforced anyway.

There is no rule to the free market of a Nation that there be no borders. In a free market, if a business owner wants cheap labor, they can always produce in another country and import. In other words, they can go where the labor is, there is no free market rule that the labor must be imported into the nation. There is a reason iphones are imported, same concept. US owned. China made. That's every bit a free market as importing labor(in it's basic form).

Whether you choose to see it or not, immigration and the free market are separate issues. You can have a free market without immigration and you can have immigration without a free market. That the Libertarian Party links them together is a Libertarian Party construct, not a hard and fast rule.
It certainly possible to have free domestic only markets. It is called economic nationalism when it is done not libertarianism.

A compromise between economic nationalism and libertarianism that allows jobs to be exported with the goods now imported free of tariffs but stops short of unrestricted importation of people (immigration) isn't any more economically sustainable than a welfare state and open borders is. The 20th century left understood this and allied with the right on immigration issues as late as 1990s Holland.
 

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It certainly possible to have free domestic only markets. It is called economic nationalism when it is done not libertarianism.

A compromise between economic nationalism and libertarianism that allows jobs to be exported with the goods now imported free of tariffs but stops short of unrestricted importation of people (immigration) isn't any more economically sustainable than a welfare state and open borders is. The 20th century left understood this and allied with the right on immigration issues as late as 1990s Holland.

You lost me.

Who said anything about free domestic only markets or economic nationalism?

Were we not discussing a free market and immigration and globalization?

I'm still wondering how there can't be a free market without open borders.
 

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You lost me.

Who said anything about free domestic only markets or economic nationalism?

Were we not discussing a free market and immigration and globalization?

I'm still wondering how there can't be a free market without open borders.
The concept of protecting the domestic economy against free global trade is called economic nationalism. A fundamental aspect of that protection is preventing a massive increase of labor supply suppressing the price of domestic labor expenses (wages). This policy is in complete opposition to an essential aspect of libertarianism.

Economic nationalism also supports protecting the demand side of domestic labor expenses (wages) via tariffs and other measures just as much as they do the supply side via immigration restrictions.

You are taking the economic nationalist position on domestic labor supply policy over the libertarian position but still supporting the libertarian position on the demand side over economic nationalists. For both of your preferences to become policy, a compromise between economic nationalism and libertarianism needs to be made.

Making such a compromise would defeat the purpose of both agendas so it never would be made even if it were possible which it isn't at least not permanently so just like a socialist compromise with globalists for a welfare state and open borders. The private market is competitive. A nation whose workers have a median wage 2,000% higher than the global market median wage cannot compete in that market with countries that allows unrestricted importation of the globally cheapest labor. The jobs simply leave to places in a nation that allows that to happen. Why would global corporations not take advantage of labor costing only 5% of domestic price on average?

If corporations cannot important this 95% cheaper labor on average as replacement workers but can export the work, that is exactly what they will do and the nation no longer has an economy as Trump himself said when campaigning. He also said that open borders means you don't have a country which is also correct.

In order to compete in a global market, a country has to do one of two things. Race to the global bottom by matching global labor prices and unrestricted labor importation or try to compete qualitatively by protecting both the supply and demand side of domestic labor so expensive investments in qualitative improvements like subsidized higher education is possible.

There is no point in protecting one but not both of domestic labor supply and demand. I doubt you believe heavy domestic labor demand protection like massive tariffs would work without supply protection that open borders does so I don't know how you can think that the inverse that free trade with major immigration restrictions can work.
 

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As I am overall completely disgusted with our elected officials, I am thinking of bringing the Whig Party back...

http://www.history.com/topics/whig-party

Or starting the Vape Party and running for Prez myself.:crazy:

Only one vacation per year as well as long holiday weekends.

Don't know shit about shit but I am honest and would hire folks that did know Shit from Shinola to do the important stuff.
The Whig Party is not coming back but the Whinge Party probably has enough votes to win a three way race. That could easily be organized on college campus safe spaces and Never Trump churches.
 

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"'You do know you just attacked a Gold Star family?' one adviser warned Trump
Trump didn’t know what a Gold Star family was: 'What’s that?' he asked." –as reported by New York Magazine

"I will tell you at the time.


I’ll keep you in suspense, OK?" –Donald Trump, refusing to say whether he will accept the election outcome during the third presidential debate (October 19, 2016)

Donald Trump at the third presidential debate: "Nobody respects women more than me."
Three minutes later: "Such a nasty woman." (October 19, 2016)

"I sorta get away with things like that." —Donald Trump, on bursting into Miss Universe pageant dressing rooms

"Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you." –Donald Trump, mocking the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them, suggesting his accusers weren't attractive enough to earn his attention. (October 14, 2016)

"You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the p**sy. You can do anything." –Donald Trump in a 2005 interview with Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush

"That makes me smart." –Donald Trump, responding to Hillary Clinton’s suggestion that he pays no federal income tax (Sept.


26, 2016)

“I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. [Clinton’s] saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?” –Donald Trump in the first presidential debate, Sept.


26, 2016

"Hillary Clinton … started the birther controversy. I finished it." –Donald Trump, falsely claiming that Hillary Clinton started the rumors that President Obama wasn't born in the United States (Sept. 16, 2016)

"I think what we should do is — she goes around with armed bodyguards like you have never seen before. I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons. They should disarm. Right? Right? I think they should disarm – immediately. What do you think? Yes? Yes. Yeah. Take their guns away! She doesn't want guns. Take their — let's see what happens to her." –Donald Trump on Hillary Clinton, Sept. 16, 2016

"40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan... And now it’s the tallest." –Donald Trump, bragging about his building following the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center in an interview with WWOR/UPN 9 News in New York (Sept. 11, 2001)

“When Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water." –Donald Trump, threatening to go to war with Iran over rude hand gestures, Pensacola, Florida, (Sept. 9, 2016)

"Iraq and Iran were very similar militarily, and they’d fight, fight, fight, and then they’d rest.

They’d fight, fight, fight, and then Saddam Hussein would do the gas, and somebody else would do something else, and they’d rest." –Donald Trump, demonstrating his knowledge of foreign policy at a town hall meeting in Virginia Beach, VA (Sept. 6, 2016)

Related: Trump Groping Scandal Memes

"Yeah, I guess so." –Donald Trump, when asked if he supported the Iraq war in 2002, despite the fact that he now claims he opposed it, interview with Howard Stern (Sept. 11, 2002)

"Dwyane Wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!" –Donald Trump, tweeting about the tragic death of Nykea Aldridge, cousin of NBA star Dwyane Wade, and making it all about him (Aug. 27, 2016)

"What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump? What do you have to lose? You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs; 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?" –Donald Trump, making a pitch to win over African American voters, adding, "At the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get 95 percent of the African-American vote." (Aug. 19, 2016)

"I might lie to you like Hillary does all the time, but I'll never lie to Giacomo, okay?" –Donald Trump, admitting to lying to voters while speaking at a rally in Connecticut, but saying he would not lie to an 18-year-old cancer patient in the audience, Giacomo Brancado (August 13, 2016)

"For evangelicals, for the Christians, for the everybody, for everybody of religion, this will be, may be, the most important election that our country has ever had. And once I get in, I will do my thing that I do very well. And I figure it is probably, maybe the only way I'm going to get to heaven. So I better do a good job." –Donald Trump, speaking to evangelical leaders in Orlando, Florida, August 11, 2016

"If she gets to pick her judges – nothing you can do, folks. Although, the Second Amendment people. Maybe there is. I don’t know." –Donald Trump, in what many interpreted to be a suggestion that someone might shoot Hillary Clinton, her Supreme Court picks, or both, Wilmington, North Carolina campaign rally, August 9, 2016

"Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?" –Donald Trump, reportedly asking a foreign policy adviser three times during a meeting why the U.S. couldn’t use its nuclear weapons stockpile, according to MSNBC's Joe Scarborough
 

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"We should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump." –Donald Trump, speaking at a rally in Toledo Ohio, (October 27, 2016)

"'You do know you just attacked a Gold Star family?' one adviser warned Trump
Trump didn’t know what a Gold Star family was: 'What’s that?' he asked." –as reported by New York Magazine

"I will tell you at the time.


I’ll keep you in suspense, OK?" –Donald Trump, refusing to say whether he will accept the election outcome during the third presidential debate (October 19, 2016)

Donald Trump at the third presidential debate: "Nobody respects women more than me."
Three minutes later: "Such a nasty woman." (October 19, 2016)

"I sorta get away with things like that." —Donald Trump, on bursting into Miss Universe pageant dressing rooms

"Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you." –Donald Trump, mocking the women who alleged he sexually assaulted them, suggesting his accusers weren't attractive enough to earn his attention. (October 14, 2016)

"You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the p**sy. You can do anything." –Donald Trump in a 2005 interview with Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush

"That makes me smart." –Donald Trump, responding to Hillary Clinton’s suggestion that he pays no federal income tax (Sept.


26, 2016)

“I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. [Clinton’s] saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?” –Donald Trump in the first presidential debate, Sept.


26, 2016

"Hillary Clinton … started the birther controversy. I finished it." –Donald Trump, falsely claiming that Hillary Clinton started the rumors that President Obama wasn't born in the United States (Sept. 16, 2016)

"I think what we should do is — she goes around with armed bodyguards like you have never seen before. I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons. They should disarm. Right? Right? I think they should disarm – immediately. What do you think? Yes? Yes. Yeah. Take their guns away! She doesn't want guns. Take their — let's see what happens to her." –Donald Trump on Hillary Clinton, Sept. 16, 2016

"40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan... And now it’s the tallest." –Donald Trump, bragging about his building following the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center in an interview with WWOR/UPN 9 News in New York (Sept. 11, 2001)

“When Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water." –Donald Trump, threatening to go to war with Iran over rude hand gestures, Pensacola, Florida, (Sept. 9, 2016)

"Iraq and Iran were very similar militarily, and they’d fight, fight, fight, and then they’d rest.

They’d fight, fight, fight, and then Saddam Hussein would do the gas, and somebody else would do something else, and they’d rest." –Donald Trump, demonstrating his knowledge of foreign policy at a town hall meeting in Virginia Beach, VA (Sept. 6, 2016)

Related: Trump Groping Scandal Memes

"Yeah, I guess so." –Donald Trump, when asked if he supported the Iraq war in 2002, despite the fact that he now claims he opposed it, interview with Howard Stern (Sept. 11, 2002)

"Dwyane Wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will VOTE TRUMP!" –Donald Trump, tweeting about the tragic death of Nykea Aldridge, cousin of NBA star Dwyane Wade, and making it all about him (Aug. 27, 2016)

"What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump? What do you have to lose? You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs; 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?" –Donald Trump, making a pitch to win over African American voters, adding, "At the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get 95 percent of the African-American vote." (Aug. 19, 2016)

"I might lie to you like Hillary does all the time, but I'll never lie to Giacomo, okay?" –Donald Trump, admitting to lying to voters while speaking at a rally in Connecticut, but saying he would not lie to an 18-year-old cancer patient in the audience, Giacomo Brancado (August 13, 2016)

"For evangelicals, for the Christians, for the everybody, for everybody of religion, this will be, may be, the most important election that our country has ever had. And once I get in, I will do my thing that I do very well. And I figure it is probably, maybe the only way I'm going to get to heaven. So I better do a good job." –Donald Trump, speaking to evangelical leaders in Orlando, Florida, August 11, 2016

"If she gets to pick her judges – nothing you can do, folks. Although, the Second Amendment people. Maybe there is. I don’t know." –Donald Trump, in what many interpreted to be a suggestion that someone might shoot Hillary Clinton, her Supreme Court picks, or both, Wilmington, North Carolina campaign rally, August 9, 2016

"Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?" –Donald Trump, reportedly asking a foreign policy adviser three times during a meeting why the U.S. couldn’t use its nuclear weapons stockpile, according to MSNBC's Joe Scarborough
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A true liar. Arguing with a Trump supporter. Just like I said you would.
LOL not an argument just an opinion on your stupid post.
Now if I had disagreed with the text your stupid posts post contents, that would have been arguing.

Just like trump though eager to call others liar.

Never fear I will not look at another post of yours.
blather on however you want, makes no difference to me or Trump.
 

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A Georgia state representative -- who is also an anesthesiologist and the wife of the former federal Health and Human Services secretary -- asked at a public hearing Tuesday about the legality of quarantining HIV patients to stop the spread of the virus that causes AIDS.
"What are we legally able to do?" Dr. Betty Price, a Republican, asked Dr. Pascale Wortley, director of the HIV/AIDS Epidemiology Surveillance Section at the Georgia Department of Public Health. "I don't want to say the 'quarantine' word, but I guess I just said it. ... What would you advise, or are there any methods, legally, that we could do that would curtail the spread?"

Price, whose husband, Dr. Tom Price, resigned last month from President Donald Trump's Cabinet, raised the issue during a committee meeting.
 

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Hurricane relief concert live now with former presidents Carter, Clinton , and 2 Bush's and Obama...
No trump?
At Texas A&M.
 
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Just found out that Trump was playing golf today instead of attending the hurricane relief concert with all of the living pasr presidents.
 

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"Iraq and Iran were very similar militarily, and they’d fight, fight, fight, and then they’d rest.

They’d fight, fight, fight, and then Saddam Hussein would do the gas, and somebody else would do something else, and they’d rest." –Donald Trump, demonstrating his knowledge of foreign policy at a town hall meeting in Virginia Beach, VA (Sept. 6, 2016)


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"Iraq and Iran were very similar militarily, and they’d fight, fight, fight, and then they’d rest.

They’d fight, fight, fight, and then Saddam Hussein would do the gas, and somebody else would do something else, and they’d rest." –Donald Trump, demonstrating his knowledge of foreign policy at a town hall meeting in Virginia Beach, VA (Sept. 6, 2016)


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In America one gets as much 'justice' as they can afford.

For the most part dying for ones country is a job for the lower middle class and poor.

Has pretty much always been that way throughout human history.

I agree 100%

Don't do any good to complain unless you got the $ to back it up
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Just gotta play the hands dealt to you and hope you get lucky or can bluff enough... Lol


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Humans are basically pack oriented creatures.
Conformity is desired by most.
But conform to which pack mentality?
We have many different packs....
Those that do not conform are punished in many ways by the conformists.
And those in different packs are to be resisted and or converted/conquered to the 'correct' conformity.
this is present in political partys, religions, sports, choice of clothes and appearance, etc and even with differing vaping styles :)
This is why that the human species will never have peace and general prosperity.
 

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Nothing wrong with that bro... unless trump starts talking shit about it... btw! How come he hasn’t talk shit about it?


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Funny thing is in 20 years the vast majority of Americans will be fine with it as well.
Programming humans with the media is VERY effective.
So effective they will even deny that they were programmed :)
Mao will be known as a hero in history in America.
 
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