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The Cromwell

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Quick: How did it get to be normal that employers pay for health care?
Kinda started by the Kaiser shipbuilding works.
It is to an employers benefit to have healthy workers.

Well it used to be, now we are in the age of the Mobile Workforce for the new millineum.
Temps, part times, etc with little or no benefits.
Disposable workers often with the govt subsidizing your employees with Medicaid, food stamps, etc.
 
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Kinda started by the Kaiser shipbuilding works.
It is to an employers benefit to have healthy workers.

Well it used to be, now we are in the age of the Mobile Workforce for the new millineum.
Temps, part times, etc with little or no benefits.
had nothing to do with health it was to make employers more attractive to workers way back when jobs were plentiful

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I didn't ask how it started, I asked how it came to be the norm.

You might want to do a bit of research on your own. Kaiser led the front for it to be the norm and unions kicked in on getting HC benefits as well.
But now with the demise of unions and the corporatization of our government.
 

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You might want to do a bit of research on your own. Kaiser led the front for it to be the norm and unions kicked in on getting HC benefits as well.
But now with the demise of unions and the corporatization of our government.
Nope. What made it "normal" was that soon after the US entered WWII on both fronts (which created a massive labor shortage), Congress passed the Stabilization Act of 1942.
One consequence of the wage stabilization under the Act was that employers, unable to provide higher salaries to attract or retain employees, began to offer insurance plans, including health care packages, as a fringe benefit, thereby beginning the practice of employer-sponsored health insurance.
So once again, we have an example government interference in markets having unintended (and undesirable, in the long run) consequences.
 

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Nope. What made it "normal" was that soon after the US entered WWII on both fronts (which created a massive labor shortage), Congress passed the Stabilization Act of 1942.

So once again, we have an example government interference in markets having unintended (and undesirable, in the long run) consequences.
Ohh and the little issue of a world war as well? And the massive demand for workers to support the war?

Evil governments.
Amazing how people that hate their governemnt can count themselves as being patriotic?

The government is the only thing holding the USA together.
Far too much hatred of difference and such for it to be united without government enforcement.

Ahh but a bunch of independent states with their own differing laws and trade tariffs on their imported and exported goods would prove interesting.
 
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Look at how much more liberals and conservatives hate each other now, as opposed to during previous administrations. If you live in a predominately conservative area, and only pay attention to conservative news, then I can see why you fail to see the divisiveness. I'm sure that's the case with Pussape and his butt buddy.
Where I live is highly conservative, but just enough middle of the road people. Many of those middle of the road people are leaning towards being liberal now. Since Orangutan got elected, most people have developed the unwritten rule to never discuss politics. All it takes is one person to start discussing politics, and either someone will be shot, or go to jail, because of what is bound to happen upon escalation of the issues between parties.
You stupid fuck I have lived in the SF bay area for over 30 years ..you call that a consrevative area..I know far more about leftist political thought than you do by a long damn shot. I've been surrounded by it for 3 decades...as for divisevness it's on you..nobody in America is buying Trump is divisive the DNC is divsive they are the ones beating people with MAGA hats, they are the ones tearing up Stars in sidewalks, they are the ones who refuse to accept the results of a legal election and have spent two years on a kangaroo court that has yield nothing, you are the ones shutting down free speech, you are the ones censoring the internet, you are the ones shooting up congressmen, nobody is buying your line of bullshit...on this thread there are only two mentally ill fucks who have issued death threats and violence...and they are both libtards....and it is what lost you the election Putin had nothing to do with it..it was your own insanity that put the nail in your coffins...so keep digging asshole keep digging...
 

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You stupid fuck I have lived in the SF bay area for over 30 years ..you call that a consrevative area..I know far more about leftist political thought than you do by a long damn shot. I've been surrounded by it for 3 decades...as for divisevness it's on you..nobody in America is buying Trump is divisive the DNC is divsive they are the ones beating people with MAGA hats, they are the ones tearing up Stars in sidewalks, they are the ones who refuse to accept the results of a legal election and have spent two years on a kangaroo court that has yield nothing, you are the ones shutting down free speech, you are the ones censoring the internet, you are the ones shooting up congressmen, nobody is buying your line of bullshit...on this thread there are only two mentally ill fucks who have issued death threats and violence...and they are both libtards....and it is what lost you the election Putin had nothing to do with it..it was your own insanity that put the nail in your coffins...so keep digging asshole keep digging...

REMOVE THE TRAITOR AND WILL STOP BEATING YOUR PEOPLE!


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Shit, yes I am!


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your proud of that huh ? Do you know what the brown shirts did in Germany ? You really are a sick fuck ej . I have lost any shred of respect for you. No shit !

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fuck you ! Fascist! Racist! Nazi fuck ! Go back to your island and tell them !

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Wow..... since you said I can’t back up what I said...
Please back up your accusations? Remember I’m not white


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your proud of that huh ? Do you know what the brown shirts did in Germany ? You really are a sick fuck ej . I have lost any shred of respect for you. No shit !

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You don’t know what respect means boi!


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Wow..... since you said I can’t back up what I said...
Please back up your accusations? Remember I’m not white


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fuck you that don't mean you don't hate asshole I don't care if your green your still a racist Nazi piece of shit ...your skin color excuses you of nothing !

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Wow..... since you said I can’t back up what I said...
Please back up your accusations? Remember I’m not white


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your a terrorist now ! The left are the new brown shirts and ej is one of them !


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ha ha ! You don't know what a brownshirt is ? You are soo stupid your not worth my time . your sad bro !

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he probablly thought you meant the brown berets.....remember he doesn't read.
 

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ha ha ! You don't know what a brownshirt is ? You are soo stupid your not worth my time . your sad bro !

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You already know why the fuck do I have to repeat


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your a terrorist now ! The left are the new brown shirts and ej is one of them !


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Shit, yes I am!
he's not white so he is not responsible for what he says he can't hate he has pigmented skin

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ha ha ! You don't know what a brownshirt is ? You are soo stupid your not worth my time . your sad bro !

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I ain’t white
I just said that
You old fucks are so hard to.....
Nvm


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I think I have to stop feeding this monkey .

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yeah.....the left have decided that their strategy was rather than engage in the democratic process to just go full retard.....don't try and pull them back let em go....let the cops clean up the mess that's what we hire them to do...
 
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yeah.....the left have decided that their strategy was rather than engage in the democratic process to just go full retard.....don't try and pull them back let em go.
So, you are saying that the left are retardicans? I think you got that ass backwards.
 

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yeah.....the left have decided that their strategy was rather than engage in the democratic process to just go full retard.....don't try and pull them back let em go....let the cops clean up the mess that's what we hire them to do.

Blah
Shut the hell up, you don’t know anything about democratic process.....
remember
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Let do this!


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aaahhh the smell of democrat blood in the water............

Obama Endorses 81 Democrats for Midterm Elections; Snubs Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez




https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...ons-snubs-socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

Democrats don't know whether to shit or salute....they will fracture into opposing factions and consume each other. They have nothing they.... had to reach back and dust off Obama and drag his mom wearing jeans ass into the spotlight to try and get any traction with the voters...they got no one else....nothing new...their new slogan with Obama is going to be....Make Americans poorer again".
 
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