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Hcigar WildWolf 235 box mod review by Mjag...No DNA no problem?

mjag

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Hcigar has been around for awhile, mostly known for there DNA mods in the past but they have taken a different approach with the Wildwolf 235. No DNA chip this time, instead there own chip so let's take a look at how it performs.

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Available in 5 colors:

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Everything is controlled via the screen, no menu to go into:

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Getting to know the Hcigar Wildwolf 235

The first thing you will notice when taking the Wildwolf out of the box aside from the light weight is it already comes with a Black Silicone Case already installed. Nice touch as that will come in handy for those that are rough on there mods.

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A definite con with the case is you have to remove it everytime you want to change batteries, I left mine off the entire 4 week review period.

Also comes with a decorative ring which at first glance should hold a 24mm tank but that is deceiving.

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Try as I might none of my 24mm tanks would make connection like the Loop RDA.

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Upon closer inspection there is a second lip inside and when I measured it it came to 22mm so that means only 22mm tanks with work like the Nudge 22 RDA, looks a little funky to me though.

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Without the case the rubberized finish just feels great in the hand, one of the most comfortable mods to hold. It is also very compact for a dual 18650 mod, here it is against some of the smallest dual 18650 mods in my collection.

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It is the lightest of all those pictured, in fact I went and weighed a lot of my dual 18650 mods (without batteries) and aside from the 3D printed Boxer the Wildwolf was the lightest at 103 grams. The USV Arc mod was the second lightest at 109 grams but it is much bigger and the 3rd lightest was the Artery Hive 200 at 122 grams, review coming soon.

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The display is nice and bright, really well done and easy to navigate, you do everything from the screen, no menu to go into. Takes a little bit to figure out if your not use to a mod with a menu button but once there it is easy as pie. The battery door does have a lot of play when opened to install batteries but once shut it is nice and secure, never had any problems there. The 510 is nice and wide to accept up to 30mm tanks with no overhang. Tight spring and decent travel, never had any connection problems and it reads ohms just about spot on.

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I tried to take the entire mod apart to show the guts but that would have required some unsoldering which I am not as handy there as I would like. I did check out the 510 and it appears to be well done with good gauge wires and mounted from under the 510 plate which means no coming loose like some press fit from the top mods. The battery door is marked for polarity and is easy enough to see. The inside has the polarity clearly marked, more clear to see than the battery door.

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One annoying feature is the auto shut off after an hour, cannot be defeated as well. In the manual Hcigar states it is to stop battery drain so that might be a board problem but it is still annoying. You can't even turn off the mod manually, 5 clicks of the fire button just locks the mod so you cannot fire it. For an all around very good mod that is annoying but it didn't stop me from enjoying it for the most part.

Being 30mm it likes big tanks to look it's best, the tank on the left is the 31mm Glaz RTA and even though there was slight overhang I love the combo. The tank on the right is the 30mm Aromamizer Plus, fits like a glove.

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Smaller tanks still look good.

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The finish on mine still looks good aside from a couple of nicks on the 510, some of which you can see in my photos. The rubberized portion still looks great but wow does it pick up and moisture from your hands easily, you will be wiping it down a lot. I have read some comments in the forums that the finish is not wearing as nicely for some. Mine isn't as pristine as I would like it but doesn't look beat up at all after more than a month of daily use. Most of my pics are taken on the day of my review so judge for yourself.

Power Performance

Listed at 235 watts that makes me suspicious, most dual 18650 mods are good to 150 watts no problem but above that they need to have the right circuitry to boost the output. I am not setup to test the output like Anthony Vapes or Daniel so I won't even venture to guess but will say it didn't seem to hit the mark up high. Still great power mode performance up to about 175 watts and this thing hits in an instant, no delay whatsoever. Feels like there is a boost even with it set to normal, the powerful mode does hit better and my preferred mode when in power. All in all I was very pleased with how responsive it hit and never missed a beat, there has to be a boost or something though as it is just instantaneous when you hit the fire button.

They do include a Variable Wattage Curve as well in power mode, works well and is easy to set up. It hit so damn instantly in just straight power mode that I never bothered much with the curve mode, nice to have options though.

TC Performance

This is where I was the most skeptical and was thinking they may have made a mistake by using their own chip instead of a DNA chip which they used in the past. I can say without a doubt they surprised me though, not the most accurate or smooth but an enjoyable TC vape with SS316L. It is on the cold side so I generally ran the temp 20F higher than normal, sometimes as much as 30F depending on my build. Even running it at 450 to 460F the dry hit protection always kicked in to stop the dreaded dry hit. The only time I would run into problems is when I was in a hot location, it would tend to not work as well so I would switch to power mode. Overall it gave me a very nice TC vape as long as I ran the temp higher than normal, I am picky when it comes to TC but enjoyed it nonetheless. Not DNA or Yihi quality TC, if your super picky and need to be dead on then this is not for you.

Problem for those that like to run SS430, 304 of the NiFe variants of TC wire, no TCR available which is an unfortunate oversight on Hcigars part. If you need TCR or TFR then you will want to pass on this mod since it does not offer either.

There is a variable TC curve as well, works well enough, no complaints here but I generally always just used the normal TC mode.

Full power available in TC mode which is a good thing, some mods limit power in TC mode which never makes sense.

Pros:

  • Hits quick and hard in power mode, something I would always notice, no delay
  • Great at reading ohms, was never off by more than 0.01 ohms
  • Good TC performance, just runs cool so you will want to raise your temp
  • Solid 510 connection and mounted from underneath so no chance of your 510 popping off
  • Buttons are solid, nice and clicky
  • Battery door is secure with batteries installed
  • Great hand feel and one of the lightest dual 18650 mods aside from 3D printed models
  • Great screen that is nice and bright, easy to see outside in the sun
  • Black Silicone Case included

Cons:

  • 1 hour auto shut off is annoying and no way to defeat it
  • No TCR or TFR adjustments for TC, not a mod for those that TC SS430, 304 and the like
  • Battery door has a lot of play when opened to install batteries, solid once closed
  • No way to manually turn off the mod, just have to let it sit for an hour and it will turn off by itself
  • Does not compensate well for hot external temperatures when in TC mode
  • Decorative ring only works for 22mm tanks, would have been great if it worked for 24mm

Final Thoughts

The Hcigar Wildwolf wasn't a mod I was planning on buying but after receiving it for review I would buy another if I lost it in a heartbeat. The reason for that is a number of factors, lightweight, great hand feel, performance and it holds 30mm tanks which for me makes it a winner. I really am pleasantly surprised with the Wildwolf as I have not had great experiences with previous Hcigar products, all of them are no longer with me. A friend of mine liked it so much he wanted to swipe mine....bastard. He then went out and bought 2 and have been using both everyday....like I said bastard...lol. Really my biggest complaint is the auto turn off, annoying but not enough to get me to stop using this mod.

While not the perfect mod I think it is a genuine bargain for the prices I am seeing https://www.vapecrawler.com/results/Hcigar Wildwolf and check out the AliExpress app as well, my friend scored his on there for less than $40 each shipped.

I almost turned Hcigar down to review the Wildwolf as my review que and my work schedule is getting the best of me. I am now really glad I didn't as it is always a plus when you get a review product you will continue to use long after the review is done.

I would like to thank Emily at Hcigar for convincing me to review the Wildwolf, it was an absolute pleasure. You can find out more at there website: https://www.hcigar.com/portfolio-item/wildwolf-235w-box-mods/

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mjag

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I haven't looked, but since your here....are they on the market now?
Yeah, my friend ordered 2 using the aliexpress app on his phone for something like $38 each shipped. They have coupons on there too so I am sure he got it for even less. The app is cheaper on prices than if you go on the aliexpress website, they have mobile only deals.

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Yeah, my friend ordered 2 using the aliexpress app on his phone for something like $38 each shipped. They have coupons on there too so I am sure he got it for even less. The app is cheaper on prices than if you go on the aliexpress website, they have mobile only deals.

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Damn, thanks for the info...that is a good price...may get a couple, if one shits the bed, no real loss.
 

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I’m so happy that you gave the Wildwolf a thumbs up cos I got one a few weeks ago for my SC Glaz Rta that’s arriving today & my SC Aromamizer Plus.

Got mine @Efun.Top @inspects if you use their coupon code “CND08” good until 10/7 it’s only $37~ shipped.

I’m really enjoying its lightness & rounded shape. Can’t beat it for the price as it includes the silicone case/cover & a really nice albeit small beauty ring.

P.s. efun shipped & received in about 8-9 days pretty quick!
 

mjag

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I’m so happy that you gave the Wildwolf a thumbs up cos I got one a few weeks ago for my SC Glaz Rta that’s arriving today & my SC Aromamizer Plus.

Got mine @Efun.Top @inspects if you use their coupon code “CND08” good until 10/7 it’s only $37~ shipped.

I’m really enjoying its lightness & rounded shape. Can’t beat it for the price as it includes the silicone case/cover & a really nice albeit small beauty ring.

P.s. efun shipped & received in about 8-9 days pretty quick!
Wow, that's a great price....hmmmm, tempted to get the red for my red Aromamizer Plus.

Have you tried the Wildwolf yet and what do you think?

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Wow, that's a great price....hmmmm, tempted to get the red for my red Aromamizer Plus.

Have you tried the Wildwolf yet and what do you think?

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I like it, it’s so light & I like the rounded shape very comfy to hold. But I did notice the battery life isn’t as good as my Asmodus Minikin v2’s & Tesla Wye 200 watt.

I mainly got it for my Plus & Glaz RTA which just arrived today.
 

mjag

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I like it, it’s so light & I like the rounded shape very comfy to hold. But I did notice the battery life isn’t as good as my Asmodus Minikin v2’s & Tesla Wye 200 watt.

I mainly got it for my Plus & Glaz RTA which just arrived today.
I didn't notice the battery life being too bad on mine but then again I ran it 85 watts or more with the Glaz and any other 30mm tanks I had on hand.

That reminds me I never put the battery cutoff I measured. Running at 85 watts or more I got 3.38 and 3.39 volts on both batteries when I got the battery low warning. At a more reasonable 50 to 65 watts I got 3.25 and 3.29 volts. I always measure but sometimes forget to include that info.

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Good job, mjag! Enjoyed that read. I've just got 1 question, how do you turn it back on after it cuts off? 5 clicks? 3 clicks?

Ok, that was 3 questions. :rolleyes:

Hey, I can walk into either camp now and not get killed. I got me a dna mod the first of this month. Scored myself a paranormal 250c to go along with my G2! :bliss:
 

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Good job, mjag! Enjoyed that read. I've just got 1 question, how do you turn it back on after it cuts off? 5 clicks? 3 clicks?

Ok, that was 3 questions. :rolleyes:

Hey, I can walk into either camp now and not get killed. I got me a dna mod the first of this month. Scored myself a paranormal 250c to go along with my G2! :bliss:
5 clicks turns it back on.
 

mjag

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Good job, mjag! Enjoyed that read. I've just got 1 question, how do you turn it back on after it cuts off? 5 clicks? 3 clicks?

Ok, that was 3 questions. :rolleyes:

Hey, I can walk into either camp now and not get killed. I got me a dna mod the first of this month. Scored myself a paranormal 250c to go along with my G2! :bliss:

Thank you MWorthington!

@Heartsdelight beat me to it, She is just too good :hug:

I love the Paranormal with the 250C and still use my G2's, the only reason you might need the Wildwolf is if you want something to take a 30mm tank with no overhang. It is also a great beater mod if you don't want to take your pricey Paranormal somewhere where it might get dinged up. I would not recommend over the 2 you mentioned though but those are the top of the heap so that is no surprise.
 

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Good read Mjag. Might have been a contender if it wasn't for the cut off, canceled my other Sirius due to that annoyance. I'll eventually update it I guess and see if they fixed that function.
 

mjag

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Good read Mjag. Might have been a contender if it wasn't for the cut off, canceled my other Sirius due to that annoyance. I'll eventually update it I guess and see if they fixed that function.
Thank you my sweet!

I think they did fix the Sirius auto shut off. For my 30mm tank collection no doubt I like the Wildwolf better, it is more comfortable to hold and lighter as well than the Sirius which I never really warmed up to.

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@mjag do you know if there’s an update for the Wildwolf? I saw some mods had version 1.1 I think. Mine is on version 1.0. I tried looking on their website & asking them on Facebook but I didn’t find anything & they didn’t answer me.

I also asked you on Facebook ;)
 

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@mjag do you know if there’s an update for the Wildwolf? I saw some mods had version 1.1 I think. Mine is on version 1.0. I tried looking on their website & asking them on Facebook but I didn’t find anything & they didn’t answer me.

I also asked you on Facebook ;)
Sorry, just got out of dinner. That I have no idea about but will send a message to my contact at Hcigar. They are on holiday there though, I think until about Oct 7th or something like that. Would be great if they have an update to take out the auto shut off.

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Sorry, just got out of dinner. That I have no idea about but will send a message to my contact at Hcigar. They are on holiday there though, I think until about Oct 7th or something like that. Would be great if they have an update to take out the auto shut off.

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Thank you so much! :blowkiss: You’re a sweetheart! :inlove: I also answered you on Facebook.
 

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Message sent, hoping to get a response. How do you check the firmware version?

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I can’t remember how lol! I tried just now. But I swear I saw it! Promise :cool: I’ll let you know if I figure it out.
 

MannyScoot

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This is an amazing small yet powerful very hard hitting mod.......
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I like the cut off..... It does it after it's been sitting for an hour..... It's a good safety feature...... If it's been sitting around unused for an hour why not shut down to save power ?.....

Hell yeah this mod is amazing and on the Powerful mode hits exact like a Yihi Sx 550J g class.... That's a $300 dollar mod.......

It's worth every cent........
 
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mjag

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This is an amazing small yet powerful very hard hitting mod.......
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I like the cut off..... It does it after it's been sitting for an hour..... It's a good safety feature...... If it's been sitting around unused for an hour why not shut down to save power ?.....

Hell yeah this mod is amazing and on the Powerful mode hits exact like a Yihi Sx 550J g class.... That's a $300 dollar mod.......

It's worth every cent........

That wrap is kool manny!

Yeah, I still use mine and a friend who works construction uses it at work because it comes with that silicone sleeve and how light it is. If I lost mine I would seriously considering buying another based on how much it gets used.

@Heartsdelight I did send a email to my hcigar contact and she did not know but said she would ask an engineer, I was just reminded I never heard back from her. Sorry, she is flaky I guess.

Thank you @Just Frank . My friend got his in the Aliexpress app for $37 shipped but looks like they are more than that now. Hopefully there is some good BF deals, if it is cheap enough I would buy a second, maybe red to go with my red Aromamizer Plus.....slick!
 

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That wrap is kool manny!

Yeah, I still use mine and a friend who works construction uses it at work because it comes with that silicone sleeve and how light it is. If I lost mine I would seriously considering buying another based on how much it gets used.

@Heartsdelight I did send a email to my hcigar contact and she did not know but said she would ask an engineer, I was just reminded I never heard back from her. Sorry, she is flaky I guess.

Thank you @Just Frank . My friend got his in the Aliexpress app for $37 shipped but looks like they are more than that now. Hopefully there is some good BF deals, if it is cheap enough I would buy a second, maybe red to go with my red Aromamizer Plus.....slick!
I got the wrap from zapwrapz in England.... It's the Honeycomb Carbon Fiber..... It's tough and only $10 bucks..... And shipping $2.00

They ship it with the post it takes about a week to get here......
 

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That wrap is kool manny!

Yeah, I still use mine and a friend who works construction uses it at work because it comes with that silicone sleeve and how light it is. If I lost mine I would seriously considering buying another based on how much it gets used.

@Heartsdelight I did send a email to my hcigar contact and she did not know but said she would ask an engineer, I was just reminded I never heard back from her. Sorry, she is flaky I guess.

Thank you @Just Frank . My friend got his in the Aliexpress app for $37 shipped but looks like they are more than that now. Hopefully there is some good BF deals, if it is cheap enough I would buy a second, maybe red to go with my red Aromamizer Plus.....slick!
That’s ok, thanks for asking. I got a response from Hcigar on Facebook & they said no firmware updates.
 

MannyScoot

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How do u like the DR RTA? ot one on the way, hear it rips with a big 4mm single coil too
The Dead Rabbit doesn't leak I mean anywhere, the deck is beautiful and can hold (2) 3.5 mm coils.... It wicks wonderfully and the taste is comparable to The Reload and that's a tough call because The Reload is amazing.

Wonderful airflow and capacity...... It's freaking good...... And affordable.....
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mjag

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The Dead Rabbit doesn't leak I mean anywhere, the deck is beautiful and can hold (2) 3.5 mm coils.... It wicks wonderfully and the taste is comparable to The Reload and that's a tough call because The Reload is amazing.

Wonderful airflow and capacity...... It's freaking good...... And affordable.....
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That's good to hear, can't wait to get mine. Thanks Manny

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PS: your killing me with that Kodama, just beautiful!
 

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