Help me maybe? :) <3

[drackeo]

Ive been getting into Mech mods recently and just got my first tube mod, a Nemesis clone. Im loving that little thing, have my velocity mini with a quad coil build reading at .11ohms. Reallly realllllllly loving that thing lol. Buttons a bit crunchy at times tho, and it gets hot. But anyways lol

This is what im looking for help with, Im also looking for a Mech Mod Box, dual 18650 preferably. I saw these two on fasttech today:
https://www.fasttech.com/product/3045700
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3027/10014174/2587900
And I love the look of the both of them. Im wondering which one to go with lol If anyone has experence with either one that would be nice

Also if anyone knows how to fix the hot button on my Nemesis that would be nice also. Also how to turn it black, right now its silver and clashes with everything i have

 

[Dmoney!]

I don't know anything about those 2 mods but Ivogo makes a clone of the Dimitri box that gets great reviews and I's only like 28 bucks. I have an authentic one and love it just make sure whatever mod you choose you know if its a series or parallel and how to calculate the amps your going to be pulling off your batteries.

 

[drackeo]

Hey thanks for the reply, and also welcome to the forum

I know the Authentic Quad is a Parallel box (both positive are facing up). So id assume the clone is the same. And from the look of the Abaddon is the same, parallel. Does the Dimitri come in a black finish? I personally dont have anything that looks good on silver mods, only black lmao, is it parallel or series box?

Also for both assuming they are both parallel, and that im using Samsung 25r5's (the green ones) Max id be pulling 175watts and 4.4 volts using my lowest ohm build (0.11). Being a parallel it would be a 40amp discharge (each battery has a 20amp discharge so yah lo)

 

[drackeo]

This is the guy your talking about?

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011954/2222300-dimitri-style-mechanical-box-mod

 

[raymo2u]

This is the guy your talking about?

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011954/2222300-dimitri-style-mechanical-box-mod

Buy the Abbadon, Lethal, Osium, Incubus, Sniper or any other Parallel Copper Box Mod. The Castigador and Dmitri have finicky firing contacts that require you to constantly fix them on the clones for decent results. Buy one thats all copper and have a simple button to fire it, the Raptor copper box would be a great choice also.

 

[drackeo]

Buy the Abbadon, Lethal, Osium, Incubus, Sniper or any other Parallel Copper Box Mod. The Castigador and Dmitri have finicky firing contacts that require you to constantly fix them on the clones for decent results. Buy one thats all copper and have a simple button to fire it, the Raptor copper box would be a great choice also.

What about the Quad that i posted above? Im looking for something with a black finish because i a sucker for good looks lol.

I was looking at the black Abbadon and the black Osium. Both are solid choices?

 

[raymo2u]

What about the Quad that i posted above? Im looking for something with a black finish because i a sucker for good looks lol.

I was looking at the black Abbadon and the black Osium. Both are solid choices?

Copper has better conductivity, if you want low voltage drop I wouldn't buy anything else, if looks are what matter and you dont care about performance then aluminum and other metals wont be an issue, I highly suggest buying copper/sleeved devices if you haven't bought many mods so far. You cn always buy a roll of vinyl decal film to color anything you want afterwards but you cant change the performance of a mod besides buying a better conductive unit. The quad is nice but Im not a fan of aluminum mods...
Great Choice:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3027/10014174/3718900

 

[drackeo]

Copper has better conductivity, if you want low voltage drop I wouldn't buy anything else, if looks are what matter and you dont care about performance then aluminum and other metals wont be an issue, I highly suggest buying copper/sleeved devices if you haven't bought many mods so far. You cn always buy a roll of vinyl decal film to color anything you want afterwards but you cant change the performance of a mod besides buying a better conductive unit. The quad is nice but Im not a fan of aluminum mods...
Great Choice:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3027/10014174/3718900

Im not really worried about getting the highest performing mod that hits like a train or anything. Even a low end crapy metal mod will hit harder then the regulated mods that i have. The only mech mod is a tube mod that is stainless steel and its really nice, hits great i juts dont like the finish on it at all, nothing matches it lol.

Im looking at the Quad because it looks good and has the black finish. The material means nothing to me. Plus i believe it has copper contacts

This any good?
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10013628/3417001-osmium-v2-styled-mechanical-box-mod

 

[drackeo]

Or maybe the noisy cricket

 

[raymo2u]

Or maybe the noisy cricket

But then you need to build for Series (8.4V All the time)

 

[OBDave]

Hey thanks for the reply, and also welcome to the forum

I know the Authentic Quad is a Parallel box (both positive are facing up). So id assume the clone is the same. And from the look of the Abaddon is the same, parallel. Does the Dimitri come in a black finish? I personally dont have anything that looks good on silver mods, only black lmao, is it parallel or series box?

Also for both assuming they are both parallel, and that im using Samsung 25r5's (the green ones) Max id be pulling 175watts and 4.4 volts using my lowest ohm build (0.11). Being a parallel it would be a 40amp discharge (each battery has a 20amp discharge so yah lo)

So yah something that I don't lol at is using a single 20 amp battery on a 0.1 build in a mech tube.

If you want your mod to stop getting hot, stop trying to get your battery to explode. I personally wouldn't run that build on a 30 amp single cell, but I know others here that would and have, and haven't blown themselves up yet.

Save the stupid-sub-ohm for a multi cell box, which you're getting some good advice on here already.

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone

 

[drackeo]

But then you need to build for Series (8.4V All the time)

Whats the difference? The other ones im looking at are parallel right? Sorry im new to mechs lol

 

[drackeo]

So yah something that I don't lol at is using a single 20 amp battery on a 0.1 build in a mech tube.

If you want your mod to stop getting hot, stop trying to get your battery to explode. I personally wouldn't run that build on a 30 amp single cell, but I know others here that would and have, and haven't blown themselves up yet.

Save the stupid-sub-ohm for a multi cell box, which you're getting some good advice on here already.

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone

Is it really that bad???? I thought that the 25r5s were fine for that!??! Thats one of the reasons im wanting to go and get a mod box lol
But I just polished the contacts and all hot buttons are all fine

 

[OBDave]

According to my calculations a 0.11 build on a fresh 4.2 volt charge is pulling a little more than 38 amps - not quite double your 25r's limit. The vast majority of builders will tell you to build to a continuous rating, not a burst rating - which you may even be exceeding as well, I've seen some people say that's 35 amp, but I've also heard 100 amp on the 25r5 (not much of a battery junkie since I switched to regulated and don't often go over 65 watts).

And yeah, cruddy contacts will rob power and direct it toward heating your button real quick - glad cleaning helped but I still would stick with 0.2 (21 amps and still pushing it) and above until you get that dual or quad cell box. If you're going to keep the Nemmy in rotation, consider picking up a pair of VTC4s and a magnet kit - replacing the spring with a magnet did wonders for my crunchy button issues.

 

[raymo2u]

Whats the difference? The other ones im looking at are parallel right? Sorry im new to mechs lol

Series is doubling the Voltage output, 8.4V instead of 4.2V of a Parallel Box. Building for Series is recommended in the .4-.8 Ohm range.
The Mah stays the same as well as amperage of the batteries with Series, with a Parallel Box you are doubling the Mah and a bit more then 1.5 times the Amperage but still only outputting 4.3V.

According to my calculations a 0.11 build on a fresh 4.2 volt charge is pulling a little more than 38 amps - not quite double your 25r's limit. The vast majority of builders will tell you to build to a continuous rating, not a burst rating - which you may even be exceeding as well, I've seen some people say that's 35 amp, but I've also heard 100 amp on the 25r5 (not much of a battery junkie since I switched to regulated and don't often go over 65 watts).

And yeah, cruddy contacts will rob power and direct it toward heating your button real quick - glad cleaning helped but I still would stick with 0.2 (21 amps and still pushing it) and above until you get that dual or quad cell box. If you're going to keep the Nemmy in rotation, consider picking up a pair of VTC4s and a magnet kit - replacing the spring with a magnet did wonders for my crunchy button issues.

I would never recommend others to try or to replicate any build lower then .15 on a tube mod. I myself have used the 25R batteries on tube mods with builds as low as .075 but battery life was maybe 3-5 minutes before I would notice the voltage drop and change out the battery. I would suggest using LG HB6's for any build lower then .15 to be safe and to use Parallel boxes for sustainable vaping and safety.

 

[drackeo]

According to my calculations a 0.11 build on a fresh 4.2 volt charge is pulling a little more than 38 amps - not quite double your 25r's limit. The vast majority of builders will tell you to build to a continuous rating, not a burst rating - which you may even be exceeding as well, I've seen some people say that's 35 amp, but I've also heard 100 amp on the 25r5 (not much of a battery junkie since I switched to regulated and don't often go over 65 watts).

And yeah, cruddy contacts will rob power and direct it toward heating your button real quick - glad cleaning helped but I still would stick with 0.2 (21 amps and still pushing it) and above until you get that dual or quad cell box. If you're going to keep the Nemmy in rotation, consider picking up a pair of VTC4s and a magnet kit - replacing the spring with a magnet did wonders for my crunchy button issues.

Yah i have some magnets to place in the button. Also i do have some VTC4's on there way so those will be going into it the 25r5s will go for my VTC mini. Im deff not a battery junky at all lol. Im aiming for a hot flavorful vape with this all So the low ohm build will be going on the box and for the tube that probably wont get much use lol.

 

[drackeo]

Series is doubling the Voltage output, 8.4V instead of 4.2V of a Parallel Box. Building for Series is recommended in the .4-.8 Ohm range.
The Mah stays the same as well as amperage of the batteries with Series, with a Parallel Box you are doubling the Mah and a bit more then 1.5 times the Amperage but still only outputting 4.3V.



I would never recommend others to try or to replicate any build lower then .15 on a tube mod. I myself have used the 25R batteries on tube mods with builds as low as .075 but battery life was maybe 3-5 minutes before I would notice the voltage drop and change out the battery. I would suggest using LG HB6's for any build lower then .15 to be safe and to use Parallel boxes for sustainable vaping and safety.

What about the sonys? Im not a chain vapor so ill take a hit or two then go along my way. The 25r5s last me all day no issues on the 0.11 build. Never herd of the HB6's like at all lol.

But back to the mod itself any of the ones im looking at (Quad, Abaddon or the Osmium) will really work? They all use copper contacts.

 

[raymo2u]

What about the sonys? Im not a chain vapor so ill take a hit or two then go along my way. The 25r5s last me all day no issues on the 0.11 build. Never herd of the HB6's like at all lol.

But back to the mod itself any of the ones im looking at (Quad, Abaddon or the Osmium) will really work? They all use copper contacts.

Most of them are not authentic and the rest are NOS and wouldn't have "brand new" tested specs, therefor I dont buy VTC series batteries as 95% of the time they are fakes. LG HB6, HE2/4 and HD2, Samsung 25R, and thats about where my list ends for batteries I trust for lower ohm builds. The 25R provides longer battery life and high drain capabilities then most batteries, the HE2/4 batteries are basically the same with slightly higher internal resistance. The LG HB6 has only 1300 Mah but has the best High Drain output (True 30 Amp CD) then any other battery.

 

[Dmoney!]

Hey thanks for the reply, and also welcome to the forum

I know the Authentic Quad is a Parallel box (both positive are facing up). So id assume the clone is the same. And from the look of the Abaddon is the same, parallel. Does the Dimitri come in a black finish? I personally dont have anything that looks good on silver mods, only black lmao, is it parallel or series box?

Also for both assuming they are both parallel, and that im using Samsung 25r5's (the green ones) Max id be pulling 175watts and 4.4 volts using my lowest ohm build (0.11). Being a parallel it would be a 40amp discharge (each battery has a 20amp discharge so yah lo)

The Dimitri comes in a black finish! It's a parallel box which I prefer as I believe it's safer to build on. Samsung 25rs are a great battery for mechs I myself use sony's but both are great. In a parallel your max voltage output is going to be 4.2 before voltage drop. Just do some Google research whatever mod you choose

 

[Dmoney!]

Is it really that bad???? I thought that the 25r5s were fine for that!??! Thats one of the reasons im wanting to go and get a mod box lol
But I just polished the contacts and all hot buttons are all fine

That low of a build on a single battery is a lot of stress on the battery. Not the safest build. in a dual 18650 parallel box your voltage doesn't change from using a single battery. a .1 build on a single battery is a lot even for a top end battery.

 

[Dmoney!]

Buy the Abbadon, Lethal, Osium, Incubus, Sniper or any other Parallel Copper Box Mod. The Castigador and Dmitri have finicky firing contacts that require you to constantly fix them on the clones for decent results. Buy one thats all copper and have a simple button to fire it, the Raptor copper box would be a great choice also.

I've never had problems with my Dimitri but it's not a clone. A friend of mine has an ivogo cloned Dimitri and has never had firing problems or had to fix the contacts. Luck of the draw I guess

 

[Dmoney!]

But then you need to build for Series (8.4V All the time)

I wouldn't recommend a series box for anyone just getting into to mechs

 

[raymo2u]

I've never had problems with my Dimitri but it's not a clone. A friend of mine has an ivogo cloned Dimitri and has never had firing problems or had to fix the contacts. Luck of the draw I guess

Its more of the Castigador with the issues since the contacts are thinner and the one bar connectedd to the button would slowly bend its way from being pushed nd would need tweaking every few days, it happens on the Authentic as well but I heard the Dimitri has the same mechanism so I figured I would share.

 

[Dmoney!]

Its more of the Castigador with the issues since the contacts are thinner and the one bar connectedd to the button would slowly bend its way from being pushed nd would need tweaking every few days, it happens on the Authentic as well but I heard the Dimitri has the same mechanism so I figured I would share.

Yeah the dimitri has a fully mechanical firing switch witch can get finicky over time without proper maintenance

 

[drackeo]

Most of them are not authentic and the rest are NOS and wouldn't have "brand new" tested specs, therefor I dont buy VTC series batteries as 95% of the time they are fakes. LG HB6, HE2/4 and HD2, Samsung 25R, and thats about where my list ends for batteries I trust for lower ohm builds. The 25R provides longer battery life and high drain capabilities then most batteries, the HE2/4 batteries are basically the same with slightly higher internal resistance. The LG HB6 has only 1300 Mah but has the best High Drain output (True 30 Amp CD) then any other battery.

Ill double check them when i gte them in. The website i ordered from markets them as 100% authentic and full refunds for any reason. Ive run into 0 issues with the 25rs on the 0.11 ohm build i have, and thats honestly the absolute lowest that ill ever go. Bordering on the way to hot for me lol. Ill look into the HB6's also tho

 

[Dmoney!]

Ill double check them when i gte them in. The website i ordered from markets them as 100% authentic and full refunds for any reason. Ive run into 0 issues with the 25rs on the 0.11 ohm build i have, and thats honestly the absolute lowest that ill ever go. Bordering on the way to hot for me lol. Ill look into the HB6's also tho

You can find authentic sony's all over the Web so you should be fine especially if they offer a return for any reason. I have 2 sets of them and they are my favorite battery by far!
Just don't chain vape a ton using that tube setup and check yout battery often. If it starts to get hot take it out and let it cool. Doubling the amp load of any battery is not good for the battery always remember that.

 

[drackeo]

That low of a build on a single battery is a lot of stress on the battery. Not the safest build. in a dual 18650 parallel box your voltage doesn't change from using a single battery. a .1 build on a single battery is a lot even for a top end battery.

I wouldn't recommend a series box for anyone just getting into to mechs

Well when I decide on a mod to go with it will be 2 of them. Why wouldnt it be a safe for parallel? The mods i listed are all parallel mods to my knowledge. I know theoretically it doubles your Amperage, realistically a little bit less. So id be getting something like 50amps form them total on the low end. A 0.11 build would be a bit on the higher end of that i know.

Series only changes the max voltage and does nothing for the discharge. It causes a lot of strain on one battery over the other also. Im just curious on why youd go with a series over parallel?

 

[drackeo]

You can find authentic sony's all over the Web so you should be fine especially if they offer a return for any reason. I have 2 sets of them and they are my favorite battery by far!
Just don't chain vape a ton using that tube setup and check yout battery often. If it starts to get hot take it out and let it cool. Doubling the amp load of any battery is not good for the battery always remember that.

Yah i dont chain vape at all. Ill take a hit or two then walk away from it. Like i said its almost way to hot for me lol.

Also im not trying to be a dick with my comment above im just curious just in case it comes off that way

 

[Dmoney!]

Well when I decide on a mod to go with it will be 2 of them. Why wouldnt it be a safe for parallel? The mods i listed are all parallel mods to my knowledge. I know theoretically it doubles your Amperage, realistically a little bit less. So id be getting something like 50amps form them total on the low end. A 0.11 build would be a bit on the higher end of that i know.

Series only changes the max voltage and does nothing for the discharge. It causes a lot of strain on one battery over the other also. Im just curious on why youd go with a series over parallel?

i didn't type that comment well what I was trying to say is that a .1 build on a tube is not as safe as it is on a dual parallel. On the boxes you listed that build will be fine. Realistically in parallel the total amps isn't exactly doubled per say but amp draw gets divided evenly among the batteries. Series doubles your voltage output so you have to build much higher to avoid over drawing the batteries as well as be strict on rotating them as one usually takes more stress then the other. My bad for the first comment it sounded good in my head[/QUOTE]

 

[drackeo]

You didn't type that comment well what I was trying to say is that a .1 build on a tube is not as safe as it is on a dual parallel. On the boxes you listed that build will be fine. Realistically in parallel the total amps isn't exactly doubled per say but amp draw gets divided evenly amount the batteries. Series doubles your voltage output so you have to build much higher to avoid over drawing the batteries as well as be strict on rotating them as one usually takes more stress then the other. My bad for the first comment it sounded in my head

Ohhhhhhhh i miss read what you said my bad lol

I know the Amperage isnt exactly doubled. On 2 30amp cells, like the sonys, it comes to close to 50amps instead of 60amp. And it because of that even draw is more or less doubled even if it is split. Or so i believe it is.

So series make it higher watts and thus hotter... Yah think im going parallel lol i like it hot but dont like it THAT hot

 

[arilen]

if you want a hot vape just splurge on a high power regulated mod, then you don't have to worry AS much about battery safety, but its still important to have good batteries with at least 25-30 amp .

you can get the wismec rx200 for less then $60 on a bunch of different sites and it will go as high as 200 watts with a .4 ohm build

 

[drackeo]

if you want a hot vape just splurge on a high power regulated mod, then you don't have to worry AS much about battery safety, but its still important to have good batteries with at least 25-30 amp .

you can get the wismec rx200 for less then $60 on a bunch of different sites and it will go as high as 200 watts with a .4 ohm build

Yah i was thinking about eventually picking one of those up but meh. The triple battery thing throws me off, im sure its great but ehh may still give it a tyr sometime. Im not as concerned with the temperature i want something that looks great, simple and clean, that can produce a flavorfull vape. So basically a mechanical mod. Cant deny the looks of them at all

 

[OBDave]

What about the sonys? Im not a chain vapor so ill take a hit or two then go along my way. The 25r5s last me all day no issues on the 0.11 build. Never herd of the HB6's like at all lol.

But back to the mod itself any of the ones im looking at (Quad, Abaddon or the Osmium) will really work? They all use copper contacts.

The HB6 is like a VTC3 - 1500 mah 30A. I always forget to mention them - they're good for low builds as well, but the advice about staying above 0.15 on any single battery mech is still good advice.

There has been a lot of counterfeiting issues with the VTC series, particularly with the VTC5, which a lot of people mistakenly believed was a 30A battery because the VTC3 and VTC4 were (the 5 is only 20A). Legit ones disappeared for a long time after the Fukushima disaster, as the Sony factory nearby was wiped out. From what I understand they now have a new factory up and running and VTCs are starting to come back online - still, given the issues I'd stick with a trusted vendor - lots of people on here like @Jon@LiionWholesale , though there are others.

 

[Dmoney!]

The HB6 is like a VTC3 - 1500 mah 30A. I always forget to mention them - they're good for low builds as well, but the advice about staying above 0.15 on any single battery mech is still good advice.

There has been a lot of counterfeiting issues with the VTC series, particularly with the VTC5, which a lot of people mistakenly believed was a 30A battery because the VTC3 and VTC4 were (the 5 is only 20A). Legit ones disappeared for a long time after the Fukushima disaster, as the Sony factory nearby was wiped out. From what I understand they now have a new factory up and running and VTCs are starting to come back online - still, given the issues I'd stick with a trusted vendor - lots of people on here like @Jon@LiionWholesale , though there are others.

From what Ive heard they no longer make a lot of the vtc batteries?

 

[OBDave]

From what Ive heard they no longer make a lot of the vtc batteries?

Legit ones disappeared for a long time after the Fukushima disaster, as the Sony factory nearby was wiped out. From what I understand they now have a new factory up and running

The rumor I've heard is they moved production operations to the Phillipines - I've never seen anything direct from Sony confirming or denying.

 

[snake94115]

Ive been getting into Mech mods recently and just got my first tube mod, a Nemesis clone. Im loving that little thing, have my velocity mini with a quad coil build reading at .11ohms. Reallly realllllllly loving that thing lol. Buttons a bit crunchy at times tho, and it gets hot. But anyways lol

This is what im looking for help with, Im also looking for a Mech Mod Box, dual 18650 preferably. I saw these two on fasttech today:
https://www.fasttech.com/product/3045700
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3027/10014174/2587900
And I love the look of the both of them. Im wondering which one to go with lol If anyone has experence with either one that would be nice

Also if anyone knows how to fix the hot button on my Nemesis that would be nice also. Also how to turn it black, right now its silver and clashes with everything i have

Between those 2 I'd go for the Abaddon.

 

[drackeo]

Between those 2 I'd go for the Abaddon.

How come?

 

[drackeo]

The HB6 is like a VTC3 - 1500 mah 30A. I always forget to mention them - they're good for low builds as well, but the advice about staying above 0.15 on any single battery mech is still good advice.

There has been a lot of counterfeiting issues with the VTC series, particularly with the VTC5, which a lot of people mistakenly believed was a 30A battery because the VTC3 and VTC4 were (the 5 is only 20A). Legit ones disappeared for a long time after the Fukushima disaster, as the Sony factory nearby was wiped out. From what I understand they now have a new factory up and running and VTCs are starting to come back online - still, given the issues I'd stick with a trusted vendor - lots of people on here like @Jon@LiionWholesale , though there are others.

Yah ive ordered batteries from them before and always turned out to be legit so im not overly worried about them being fakes, especially concidereing they just got them back in stock.

But none of this helps unless i choose a mod to place them in xD

 

[snake94115]

Im not really worried about getting the highest performing mod that hits like a train or anything. Even a low end crapy metal mod will hit harder then the regulated mods that i have. The only mech mod is a tube mod that is stainless steel and its really nice, hits great i juts dont like the finish on it at all, nothing matches it lol.

Im looking at the Quad because it looks good and has the black finish. The material means nothing to me. Plus i believe it has copper contacts

This any good?
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10013628/3417001-osmium-v2-styled-mechanical-box-mod

The Abaddon looks better IMHO.

 

[snake94115]

How come?

Just take note of this pic here.

See that recessed area...Not a fan of that.
Also you can clearly see the seams between the top and bottom sections.

 

[snake94115]

If I were going to get 1 of these it'd be this version below.

OH BABY!!

 

[drackeo]

@snake94115 i have to say, i love your reasoning with this!! I care more about looks then anything lol

I do have a question, the recessed area, why does it bother you? Isnt it for so long 510 connectors sit flush or look it at least

 

[drackeo]

If I were going to get 1 of these it'd be this version below.

OH BABY!!

What would you suggest i get out of 2x18650 box mods. Kinda around the pp of the two i listed

 

[Dmoney!]

What would you suggest i get out of 2x18650 box mods. Kinda around the pp of the two i listed

I just built a .16 dual parralel with twisted 26 guage kanthal on my troll. Threw it on the Dimitri with 2 vtc4's and the blueberry juice I made a few weeks ago. Hits and tastes like a dream! I still recommend this box I fucking love it.

 

[Dmoney!]

What would you suggest i get out of 2x18650 box mods. Kinda around the pp of the two i listed

I would go with the one in the first link you posted of those 2 as people in the reviews of the other report firing contact issues with second and I don't like that

 

[drackeo]

I would go with the one in the first link you posted of those 2 as people in the reviews of the other report firing contact issues with second and I don't like that

So the quad? And if you didnt have to pick out of those two? Any other suggestions? Except for the Dimitri lol

 

[snake94115]

@snake94115 i have to say, i love your reasoning with this!! I care more about looks then anything lol

I do have a question, the recessed area, why does it bother you? Isnt it for so long 510 connectors sit flush or look it at least

Well yeah but it also limits the width of what you can use.

 

[snake94115]

What would you suggest i get out of 2x18650 box mods. Kinda around the pp of the two i listed

As I said earlier of the 2 you originally listed I'd get The Abaddon.

 

[Dmoney!]

So the quad? And if you didnt have to pick out of those two? Any other suggestions? Except for the Dimitri lol

I've been looking into the castigador since having heard about here and the cherry bomber as well

 

[drackeo]

As I said earlier of the 2 you originally listed I'd get The Abaddon.

What im asking is what would you suggest over the two i listed?