Help me understand how coil construction affects the vape.

[Melvang]

First off I want to say I do not have any rebuildables, not that interested in buying one (yet) but I am curious on how coil construction affects the way it vapes.

From what I understand, the heavier the wires, the lower the resistance, allowing more watts to throw at it.

The longer/more wraps, more wires, increases the surface area which should help tremendously with creating more vapor and flavor. However, with more wraps, and smaller wires this increases the resistance due to using wires with a smaller cross section.

Thinking about this lead me to a question. The majority of the coil builds I have see on youtube include multiple variations of wrapping multiple wires, twisting different sized wires including round, and flat in God only knows how many variations. So I did a quick search on youtube for braided coils. I did find a few, but all the ones I saw, they used the loop method that really isn't that visually appealing, and does not allow the use of a core strand. If you guys don't know what I mean by using a core strand, check this video. It isn't about making coils, but she is making a dog leash using the exact braid I would like to see done with a coil. Here is a link to the video. If this isn't allowed I apologize.

Would anyone be willing to do this build as an experiment? Like I said, I don't have any experience with these setups, and have no idea what this would amount to for resistance. For wire gauges, I would thank anything that would allow 8 strands of smaller wire with probably a decent sized ribbon for a core would work nice. I have done this braid personally for another hobby of mine. I was using 22 gauge insualted wire for the 8 braid strands, and then used a USB cable with the black insulation and mylar wrap stripped off and left the aluminum RF shield. The braided strands were sleeved with black and green and came out with a very nice look. This type of braid is can either come out square or round depending on many factors of the braid.

Also, has anyone tried using cotton in the build process of the coil itself?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

its a combination of factors and does involve an understanding of ohms law, resistance and what factors contribute to physics of electronics.
surface are of the coil as in the amount of metal that contacts the juice plays a large role in it.
generally speaking the wider the diameter of wire the lower the resistance it will have and lower the gauge. -thick wire =smaller gauge.
because of that you are having a greater volume of metal to heat up; hence, you require more power to heat it.
enter the nice part of high power mods.
but with that high power and low resistance you are pulling larger current from the battery- here is where the danger lies and where the need for the aforementioned knowledge comes into play.
airflow is aother factor that enters into providing a good vape experience. where the airflow comes from and how it contacts the coil is another factor also.
as you can see, there is a decent amount of knowledge and a reasonable amount of variables that all need to come together to create the desireable vape.

back to your OP-how does coil construction effect it?
the amount of metal in the coil that contacts the juice, the overall survace area and how it lines up with airflow.
more surface area=more vapor
smaller chamber=more flavor
dorect airflow=more flavor and more vapor

sorry if that appears to be a tangient but i tried condencing it the best i could

 

[Melvang]

Thanks f1r3b1rd, I do have a pretty decent understanding of basic electronics from my other hobby, mechanical computer keyboards. Was more looking into build details. Though there, we don't get into heavy draws on batteries. The only thing we really use batteries for in the hobby is bluetoothed custom boards. For these a pair of AA's works just fine. This is the biggest reason I don't buy mods that require buying your own batteries. I just don't plan on getting into this "hobby" that far. Built in batteries is fine for me. I just ordered the eVic VT full size and a Crown tank.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thanks f1r3b1rd, I do have a pretty decent understanding of basic electronics from my other hobby, mechanical computer keyboards. Was more looking into build details. Though there, we don't get into heavy draws on batteries. The only thing we really use batteries for in the hobby is bluetoothed custom boards. For these a pair of AA's works just fine. This is the biggest reason I don't buy mods that require buying your own batteries. I just don't plan on getting into this "hobby" that far. Built in batteries is fine for me. I just ordered the eVic VT full size and a Crown tank.

roger that, as much as i hate saying it -rip tripper has some good build tutorials on your tube. building is one of those things that is easier to watch and hear than it is to read.
but watching rip's tutorials, and just doing a youtube search for new building would probably be the best starting point. twisted-messes does some good "trick builds"
'suckmymod' and phil busardo both have some good videos explaining the science.

with the vt or any regulated mod you really just wanna stay withing what that mod is regulated for.
once you get into it you'll find our sweet spot and where youre comfortable with being

 

[pulsevape]

First off I want to say I do not have any rebuildables, not that interested in buying one (yet) but I am curious on how coil construction affects the way it vapes.

From what I understand, the heavier the wires, the lower the resistance, allowing more watts to throw at it.

The longer/more wraps, more wires, increases the surface area which should help tremendously with creating more vapor and flavor. However, with more wraps, and smaller wires this increases the resistance due to using wires with a smaller cross section.

Thinking about this lead me to a question. The majority of the coil builds I have see on youtube include multiple variations of wrapping multiple wires, twisting different sized wires including round, and flat in God only knows how many variations. So I did a quick search on youtube for braided coils. I did find a few, but all the ones I saw, they used the loop method that really isn't that visually appealing, and does not allow the use of a core strand. If you guys don't know what I mean by using a core strand, check this video. It isn't about making coils, but she is making a dog leash using the exact braid I would like to see done with a coil. Here is a link to the video. If this isn't allowed I apologize.

Would anyone be willing to do this build as an experiment? Like I said, I don't have any experience with these setups, and have no idea what this would amount to for resistance. For wire gauges, I would thank anything that would allow 8 strands of smaller wire with probably a decent sized ribbon for a core would work nice. I have done this braid personally for another hobby of mine. I was using 22 gauge insualted wire for the 8 braid strands, and then used a USB cable with the black insulation and mylar wrap stripped off and left the aluminum RF shield. The braided strands were sleeved with black and green and came out with a very nice look. This type of braid is can either come out square or round depending on many factors of the braid.

Also, has anyone tried using cotton in the build process of the coil itself?

Yes people have made a braided wire for coil building ....it doesn't seem it's all that popular the twisted wires and the more intricate built wires act not only to increase surface area but the wire itself acts as a wick pulling and holding juice within the wire itself..giving a better flavor and bigger clouds.I would think incorporating cotton into the weave of the wire itself you would end up burning the cotton,s the cotton needs to stay wet,not moist but wet especailly when you're pumping alot of power through the coil.