Help please having multiple problems with kangertech subtank mini

[tatty29]

I defiantly will try this a bit later. I have 26 gauge and 32 gauge but using these won't give me enough wraps on my coil. According to steam engine it would be 3 wraps on the 26 gauge and 0.66 on the 32 gauge. I like the vape I was getting at .5 ohms and that's what it suggests
I was firing up my coils and pinching them when I was able to use the coils I was building. I didn't in that picture because the ohms jumped and I wasn't going to use it so there was no point really. Once I get coils that don't jump with the ohms then I will start pinching them again.


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[AmandaD]

Try 5 wraps of the 26 gauge on 2.5mm. It'll come out a bit higher than 0.5 ohms, but at least you'll know if it's shorting out. What gauge were you using before?

 

[tatty29]

I was using 28 gauge with the last coils but ill try the 26 this time round. Could I even be the wire that I'm using. I was using the 26 till I gt the 28 bt cant remember if started shorting when I swiched wires. It can be tricky to get the wire to stay were its meant to be under the screws so I have to tighten them really hard with the 28.

 

[AmandaD]

I was using 28 gauge with the last coils but ill try the 26 this time round. Could I even be the wire that I'm using. I was using the 26 till I gt the 28 bt cant remember if started shorting when I swiched wires. It can be tricky to get the wire to stay were its meant to be under the screws so I have to tighten them really hard with the 28.

I think I actually use 28 on these, but I can't remember LOL At any rate, tightening the screws can be a pain, but whatever gauge you use be sure the wire is trapped most of the way around the screw (in a semi-circle).

 

[tatty29]

I didn't find d 26 half as bad I don't think. I'll do any thing at the min cuz I'm hating these occ coils lol If this don't work I might look at gettin some thing else tho cuz I'm itching to build more complexed coils.

 

[tatty29]

Just rebuilt again. This time with 26 kanthal and wraped it further round the screws. five wraps came out at .62ohms on the reader 2.5mm in diamiter. Fired It up on the battery and pinched it and when I put It back on the reader it read .76 ohms. I decided to put it back on the battery and fired it up again as coil glowing from the center outwards this time. Pt it back on the reader and it stayed at .76 ohms. Is it normal for it to change once it has been fired and pinched?

 

[AmandaD]

Just rebuilt again. This time with 26 kanthal and wraped it further round the screws. five wraps came out at .62ohms on the reader 2.5mm in diamiter. Fired It up on the battery and pinched it and when I put It back on the reader it read .76 ohms. I decided to put it back on the battery and fired it up again as coil glowing from the center outwards this time. Pt it back on the reader and it stayed at .76 ohms. Is it normal for it to change once it has been fired and pinched?

Yes that often happens! So now you know what was wrong And be sure to make sure those screws are tight after it's fired!

 

[tatty29]

Ok that's good then. I'm glad it don't mean I might misbehave down the line. It worried me that it was shorting again.
Yeah now its 26 all the way wraped round the screws and tightened good.
I did realise it was much easyer and achilly sits under the screw rather then running by it.
Thanks for taking the time to help me get it right

 

[AmandaD]

Ok that's good then. I'm glad it don't mean I might misbehave down the line. It worried me that it was shorting again.
Yeah now its 26 all the way wraped round the screws and tightened good.
I did realise it was much easyer and achilly sits under the screw rather then running by it.
Thanks for taking the time to help me get it right

Glad it's working now!

 

[tatty29]

Thanks.
And thank you to every one who gave advice and suggestions.

 

[Mroutlaw]

Just rebuilt again. This time with 26 kanthal and wraped it further round the screws. five wraps came out at .62ohms on the reader 2.5mm in diamiter. Fired It up on the battery and pinched it and when I put It back on the reader it read .76 ohms. I decided to put it back on the battery and fired it up again as coil glowing from the center outwards this time. Pt it back on the reader and it stayed at .76 ohms. Is it normal for it to change once it has been fired and pinched?

The ohms will jump up a little after firing. Also when the coil is hot.. If you were using 28 gauge and not trapping under the screw head all the way, that was probably your problem. 26 is thicker so you have a little more room for error of it partial trapped between the side wall and under screw.

What type of mod are you using? What wattage are you trying to cape at? If your using a regulated mod, I wouldn't worry about the ohms being a little higher than .5-.6 unless your trying to push super high wattage to the point where the mod can't regulate enough volts to get there.

 

[tatty29]

Thanks for the reassurance bout the jump after firing. I think at the moment I will stick with the 26 gauge although I do want to try building twisted wire coils at some point.
I'm currently using a istick 50w and vamping between 15 and 20 watts depending on the juice I'm using at the time.


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[Mroutlaw]

Thanks for the reassurance bout the jump after firing. I think at the moment I will stick with the 26 gauge although I do want to try building twisted wire coils at some point.
I'm currently using a istick 50w and vamping between 15 and 20 watts depending on the juice I'm using at the time.


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If you're only vaping at 15-20 watts on the istick, I wouldn't worry too much about having to be at .5 ohms. The main reason people started building so low was because they wanted more wire exposed to the juice for bigger clouds and still be able to get high wattage. This applied to mech mod people even more because they control their wattage by the ohms of their build. In your case, you're using a regulated device that will give you the watts you want regardless of the ohms of the Atty (so long as you're within the range the device can handle). You could build a 1.8 ohm coil and still achieve your desired wattage. That's why variable wattage is so much better than variable voltage. When we only had variable voltage, it was much more work and required more of a knowledge of ohms law since the ohms of the coil determined what voltage you set at. Your device does all that for you.

Kanger subtanks work very well at higher ohms. The reason it's called a sub tank is first, it's all the rage right now (am I showing my age with that term) and second, it's built to withstand the heat (ie peak insulators) that sub ohm builds put out at high wattages. In fact, I custom rebuild the occ heads to 1.6ohms for my sister-in-law's mother and they work awesome.

Remember, lower ohms take longer to heat up so if u build a .7ohm coil, you'll get more vapor quicker than a .5 ohm

In the end, just keep practicing and think of it as a hobby and you'll end up having fun rebuilding and trying different things. I recoil many of my heads almost daily just because I have fun tinkering

 

[tatty29]

I like the the lower ohms because I find it more comftable to take in the vapour it produces. I did use the 1.2 occ head it came with and couldn't get on with it. I used the occ I rebuilt at .6 and found that ok but I prefer the rba to be honest. A lot of my liquids are also very sweet so I like the flavour I get at the .5 or 6 and I find my coils don't gunk up so quickly either.
I enjoy the building when it goes right and have many spare coils that I've been practising with including some twisted but as yet to put them in my atty. I want to get the basics consistent first befor I go any further. Hopefully I'm getting there but will just see how I go.


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[tatty29]

Just a little update on how I'm getting on. I recoiled for the first time tonight since the last successfull rebuild. I got through three coils befor the last one didn't short and jump around when I fixed it up. Admittedly number two was a twisted coil and the wire may have been too thick for the subtank and one I managed to break the arm off possibly over tightening the screws. At least tho I got one that worked. Still using the 26g kanthal and at the moment vaping at .9ohm which I am finding a bit warm but at least I'm able to use it.


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[Nancy_Bout]

I am too I despise it


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[tatty29]

I love it wen I can get it all right. What issues u having with yours?


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