Hi builders, would like your input

[raymo2u]

You will quickly come to hate building, installing and rewicking Ni coils.
Screwing one in and building/maintaining one are two completely different things.
I would completely eliminate Ni as a wire choice but that's just my opinion.

Good luck on your journey, we'll all be watching

NI200 makes building not fun, a loose fart could knock them out of place....Stick with 316L and all your building and rewicking problems are over..

 

[fq06]

Lol, a loose fart can knock them out of place and a tight squeaking fart rocket can knock them completely off the base.

 

[Emberwilde]

If he gets a DNA200 mod (Vt133) or hohmtech mod (G2)

actually anything with a TCR option will be able to do so as well: iStick PICO, Cuboid, anything Wismec

 

[KDodds]

Welp, SUCCESS!

I started today with the Avocado 24 first because of the bigger deck. Used a Coil Master Jig, 3.0mm, 9 wraps, dual coil SS316L 28g. I can't believe how easy this is. Of course, I killed my first coils by touching them with the (non-ceramic) tweezers. Lesson learned, the next two done and perfect, 0.51Ω on the TAB, 0.52Ω on the RX200 2/3, 0.54Ω after the tank is mostly emptied. No dry hits, no wicking problems.

On to the Aromamizer Supreme, easy peasy, same build, tested 0.49Ω on the TAB, 0.51Ω on my RX200S. Honestly, not really impressed. The flavor is okay, but nothing to gush over. Again, no wicking problems, no dry hits.

Sweet. Now to load up on RDTAs for the vapocalypse.

Thanks for everyone's help. Looking at trying the Boreas next. Is it out of my league?

 

[fq06]

Congrats man!
If you have the supreme, you kind of have the boreas.
I'd try something different, what? There are a million choices so others will chime in but I just got an aeronaut and its really different and really good.
My next buy will be the goblin mini v3... if it ever gets released...

Edit: forgot, no rda's scratch the aeronaut

 

[fq06]

Did you get some 26g 316L? It's much easier to work with and rewick without pushing your resistance down to silly levels.

Oh yeah, and being absent minded or in a rush and touching the coil with metal while firing is a little startling and something most of us only do once lol

 

[KDodds]

I like the Aromamizer for factor and capacity, but it doesn't have the flavor of the Avocado. I hear that the Boreas has better flavor, hence the Boreas. I did not get 26g. 26g says I'll need 13/14 wraps to get to the same 0.5Ω. Would that turn out to be a little bigger? The 9 wrap 28g coils are a lot tinier than I thought they'd be, which works out better in the Aromamizer, but the Avocado could take bigger.

 

[fq06]

You would probably come in high .3, low 4 but you're running them on a regulated device so it doesn't make any difference with that small of a change in resistance.
You dial in the heat and flavor you want regardless of resistance.

In fact, you will probably get more flavor with more wire surface area.

The boreas and supreme are essentially the same design, I don't have a supreme so maybe others can chime in.

You will need a lot more coil than a 28g wire to get the most out of the boreas. At least a basic clapton coil if not a super sexy fused clapton or some kind of dragon slayer coil or something lol.
Really though, that does need more than a basic coil. Maybe twist your 28g and try that.

 

[conanthewarrior]

I would say the easiest style decks to build on are velocity style decks, although others are not too bad to build on and what I learnt with.

I myself started with a nautilus mini and Premade coils, then moved onto an El Cabron RDA, and found that building was so simple I now own many, many RTA's and RDA's. I prefer them to tanks that take Premade coils.

All RTA's and RDA's will work with any wire you want, so TC will work with them all.

When it was mentioned you can buy Premade coils for a RDA or RTA, it was meant you can purchase the type of coils you would make, but someone else has made them for you. You just install them, and wick them.

You will need some cotton to wick with, I use Muji and cotton puff as this is available cheaply for huge bags that last a very long time.

My personal favourite tanks are the OBS Crius, the V3 has a velocity deck, the Griffin and the gemini. These are all very easy to wick. These are dual coil tanks though, a simple single coil tank I like is the subtank mini, with its RBA. I do not suffer any leaks with the subtank which may be good reading your posts in this thread.

 

[DP2Raja]

Thanks for everyone's help. Looking at trying the Boreas next. Is it out of my league?

The Boreas is not out of anyones league. It is extremely easy to wick. But, to make the flavor "sing" you will want claptons or something more than single strand 28ga wire. You will probably want to go into the 0.4, 0.3 range or lower. I run 0.19 - 0.24 range and just love the flavor and thick, dense vapor the Boreas produces. You have stepped into a whole new world getting away from sub ohm style "screw-in and vape" coils. They serve their purpose for many, but I love the pride and control of winding my own coils. Even learning to wick correctly is worth the effort.

 

[KDodds]

The Boreas is not out of anyones league. It is extremely easy to wick. But, to make the flavor "sing" you will want claptons or something more than single strand 28ga wire. You will probably want to go into the 0.4, 0.3 range or lower. I run 0.19 - 0.24 range and just love the flavor and thick, dense vapor the Boreas produces. You have stepped into a whole new world getting away from sub ohm style "screw-in and vape" coils. They serve their purpose for many, but I love the pride and control of winding my own coils. Even learning to wick correctly is worth the effort.

I'll assume from the similar format that this is why my Aromamizer is blowing me away with flavor.

I'm still perfectly happy with my Toptanks, Melos, Cleitos, etc. My intent is more to provide myself with a means of continuing to vape indefinitely even if coil heads are no longer available. The mega flavor of the Avocado, especially dripping, is, actually, a little too much (with Arben's Cookey, anyway) for me. I'll probably step to 14 wraps on 26g, though, because 9 wraps on 28 is a little tiny.

 

[Cosmic_Glaze]

I'll assume from the similar format that this is why my Aromamizer is blowing me away with flavor.

I'm still perfectly happy with my Toptanks, Melos, Cleitos, etc. My intent is more to provide myself with a means of continuing to vape indefinitely even if coil heads are no longer available. The mega flavor of the Avocado, especially dripping, is, actually, a little too much (with Arben's Cookey, anyway) for me. I'll probably step to 14 wraps on 26g, though, because 9 wraps on 28 is a little tiny.

Something to think about before you stock up on all the juice guzzling atttys. What if they just end up taxing the shit out of juice? MTL will be super popular again! LOL! I picked up a Kayfun 5 and it is amazing.. looking at the Rose 3 next. After all the DL devices I've owned in the past year and 1/2 of vaping it's a nice change of pace..easy to build, no leaking, juice control that you can shut off and throw in your pocket. definitely gonna pick up another one eventually.

 

[KDodds]

DIY, it's like 2-3¢/ml.